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They've decided to do a "Let's torture fans who want MT on stage with songs that he's great on" show.
Yeah, I especially hate to see DF go by without MT. Put Ronnie on pedal steel.
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Pete66
Refreshing setlist, leaving 2 warhorses out. Next time skip JJ Flash and Miss you and play Let's Spend the Night Together and Hot Stuff instead! No one will mind.
Can't wait to see them in June in Europe!
Pete.
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buttons67
touchy people those chinese authorities, in not letting the stones sing brown sugar due to suggestive lyrics. we wouldnt want to offend them.
did the same chinese authorities say anything about their human rights record or the fact babies can be murdered for daring to be born to a mother who already has another child or just for not being a son.
see those things offend me.
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touchy people those chinese authorities, in not letting the stones sing brown sugar due to suggestive lyrics. we wouldnt want to offend them.
did the same chinese authorities say anything about their human rights record or the fact babies can be murdered for daring to be born to a mother who already has another child or just for not being a son.
see those things offend me.
I was going to delete this post, because it is seriously in violation with the IORR posting policy. Why? Because it is a political statement. It is the sort of "I am better than you" statement. And that is unacceptable on IORR. First of all because it is OFF TOPIC, not related to the set list or the performance. Secondly because it will made a big fight about human rights, and we are unable to solve those issues here.
But.. I am not a quitter ... and I have never chosen the easy solutions. Right now I am on my flight out of China, halfway to Singapore. I have free access to internet, I can use secure http which means I can do my work as normal, my work in encrypted. Like I have been working during my entire three days Shanghai stay. I have been two times to mainland China i.e. Shanghai over the past 8 years. Even if no place is perfect, I feel I have to stand up for China, as much I would do for any other friend or country that might be under attack from "besserwissers".
May be they were not allowed to play HTW and BS. So what? The TV networks put a time delay and a BEEEP on 2 out of 3 songs by the Stones during Superbowl. I was watching "12 years a slave" on one of my many flights. I was in pain. I have been on travel on all continents, and the more I travel, the more I undferstand that I don't know much about other people, the way of their life, where they are coming from, and where they are going. But I do learn one thing, more and more. Respect.
Keep it real, we're adults.......You don't think a country picking a bands set list is a little overbearing, and petty?!?
When people don't speak, they don't act, and nothing changes.
Please respect the fact that the Stones were actuaally invited to play in Shanghai, and they did a great show. If you want do discuss politics or save the world, please don't do it here!
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touchy people those chinese authorities, in not letting the stones sing brown sugar due to suggestive lyrics. we wouldnt want to offend them.
did the same chinese authorities say anything about their human rights record or the fact babies can be murdered for daring to be born to a mother who already has another child or just for not being a son.
see those things offend me.
I was going to delete this post, because it is seriously in violation with the IORR posting policy. Why? Because it is a political statement. It is the sort of "I am better than you" statement. And that is unacceptable on IORR. First of all because it is OFF TOPIC, not related to the set list or the performance. Secondly because it will made a big fight about human rights, and we are unable to solve those issues here.
But.. I am not a quitter ... and I have never chosen the easy solutions. Right now I am on my flight out of China, halfway to Singapore. I have free access to internet, I can use secure http which means I can do my work as normal, my work in encrypted. Like I have been working during my entire three days Shanghai stay. I have been two times to mainland China i.e. Shanghai over the past 8 years. Even if no place is perfect, I feel I have to stand up for China, as much I would do for any other friend or country that might be under attack from "besserwissers".
May be they were not allowed to play HTW and BS. So what? The TV networks put a time delay and a BEEEP on 2 out of 3 songs by the Stones during Superbowl. I was watching "12 years a slave" on one of my many flights. I was in pain. I have been on travel on all continents, and the more I travel, the more I undferstand that I don't know much about other people, the way of their life, where they are coming from, and where they are going. But I do learn one thing, more and more. Respect.
Keep it real, we're adults.......You don't think a country picking a bands set list is a little overbearing, and petty?!?
When people don't speak, they don't act, and nothing changes.
Please respect the fact that the Stones were actuaally invited to play in Shanghai, and they did a great show. If you want do discuss politics or save the world, please don't do it here!
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touchy people those chinese authorities, in not letting the stones sing brown sugar due to suggestive lyrics. we wouldnt want to offend them.
did the same chinese authorities say anything about their human rights record or the fact babies can be murdered for daring to be born to a mother who already has another child or just for not being a son.
see those things offend me.
I was going to delete this post, because it is seriously in violation with the IORR posting policy. Why? Because it is a political statement. It is the sort of "I am better than you" statement. And that is unacceptable on IORR. First of all because it is OFF TOPIC, not related to the set list or the performance. Secondly because it will made a big fight about human rights, and we are unable to solve those issues here.
But.. I am not a quitter ... and I have never chosen the easy solutions. Right now I am on my flight out of China, halfway to Singapore. I have free access to internet, I can use secure http which means I can do my work as normal, my work in encrypted. Like I have been working during my entire three days Shanghai stay. I have been two times to mainland China i.e. Shanghai over the past 8 years. Even if no place is perfect, I feel I have to stand up for China, as much I would do for any other friend or country that might be under attack from "besserwissers".
May be they were not allowed to play HTW and BS. So what? The TV networks put a time delay and a BEEEP on 2 out of 3 songs by the Stones during Superbowl. I was watching "12 years a slave" on one of my many flights. I was in pain. I have been on travel on all continents, and the more I travel, the more I undferstand that I don't know much about other people, the way of their life, where they are coming from, and where they are going. But I do learn one thing, more and more. Respect.
Keep it real, we're adults.......You don't think a country picking a bands set list is a little overbearing, and petty?!?
When people don't speak, they don't act, and nothing changes.
Please respect the fact that the Stones were actuaally invited to play in Shanghai, and they did a great show. If you want do discuss politics or save the world, please don't do it here!
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triceratops
No Mick Taylor on "All Down The Line" and "Dead Flowers"? This is a deal breaker for me. Of course we cannot know in advance what will be played and with whom. But if I had this information in advance I would not attend. Mick and company are subjecting MT to cruel and unusual punishment by taking him along then excluding him from his most iconic Stones tunes. This is how I see it. I am sure that most of the stadium crowds could care less and this is why MT gets minimal time up on stage.
More and more I am thinking MT was given a million or two UK pounds to settle all past grievances and potential lawsuits. That he was told he gets paid the same no matter if he plays on one song or ten. That his role is to take the money and participate as you are told to. At least MT gets paid what is due but real Stones fans want to see him more, as the decades long Stones project winds down due to old age, arthritic fingers and hips, sore vocal cords, and general all around decline and decrepitude
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No Mick Taylor on "All Down The Line" and "Dead Flowers"? This is a deal breaker for me. Of course we cannot know in advance what will be played and with whom. But if I had this information in advance I would not attend. Mick and company are subjecting MT to cruel and unusual punishment by taking him along then excluding him from his most iconic Stones tunes. This is how I see it. I am sure that most of the stadium crowds could care less and this is why MT gets minimal time up on stage.
More and more I am thinking MT was given a million or two UK pounds to settle all past grievances and potential lawsuits. That he was told he gets paid the same no matter if he plays on one song or ten. That his role is to take the money and participate as you are told to. At least MT gets paid what is due but real Stones fans want to see him more, as the decades long Stones project winds down due to old age, arthritic fingers and hips, sore vocal cords, and general all around decline and decrepitude
That means that you wouldn't attend a regular Stones show?
Ronnie Wood is the band's guitarist, and if you think it through not all songs will become better with three guitars.
But they could play MR without Taylor, and put him on ADTL, BS and others. I really don't know why they don't mix it up more.
DF doesn't need Mick Taylor, imo.
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No Mick Taylor on "All Down The Line" and "Dead Flowers"? This is a deal breaker for me. Of course we cannot know in advance what will be played and with whom. But if I had this information in advance I would not attend. Mick and company are subjecting MT to cruel and unusual punishment by taking him along then excluding him from his most iconic Stones tunes. This is how I see it. I am sure that most of the stadium crowds could care less and this is why MT gets minimal time up on stage.
More and more I am thinking MT was given a million or two UK pounds to settle all past grievances and potential lawsuits. That he was told he gets paid the same no matter if he plays on one song or ten. That his role is to take the money and participate as you are told to. At least MT gets paid what is due but real Stones fans want to see him more, as the decades long Stones project winds down due to old age, arthritic fingers and hips, sore vocal cords, and general all around decline and decrepitude
That means that you wouldn't attend a regular Stones show?
Ronnie Wood is the band's guitarist, and if you think it through not all songs will become better with three guitars.
But they could play MR without Taylor, and put him on ADTL, BS and others. I really don't know why they don't mix it up more.
DF doesn't need Mick Taylor, imo.
You think DF is better without MT?
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StonesCat
They've decided to do a "Let's torture fans who want MT on stage with songs that he's great on" show.
Yeah, I especially hate to see DF go by without MT. Put Ronnie on pedal steel.
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triceratops
No Mick Taylor on "All Down The Line" and "Dead Flowers"? This is a deal breaker for me. Of course we cannot know in advance what will be played and with whom. But if I had this information in advance I would not attend. Mick and company are subjecting MT to cruel and unusual punishment by taking him along then excluding him from his most iconic Stones tunes. This is how I see it. I am sure that most of the stadium crowds could care less and this is why MT gets minimal time up on stage.
More and more I am thinking MT was given a million or two UK pounds to settle all past grievances and potential lawsuits. That he was told he gets paid the same no matter if he plays on one song or ten. That his role is to take the money and participate as you are told to. At least MT gets paid what is due but real Stones fans want to see him more, as the decades long Stones project winds down due to old age, arthritic fingers and hips, sore vocal cords, and general all around decline and decrepitude
That means that you wouldn't attend a regular Stones show?
Ronnie Wood is the band's guitarist, and if you think it through not all songs will become better with three guitars.
But they could play MR without Taylor, and put him on ADTL, BS and others. I really don't know why they don't mix it up more.
DF doesn't need Mick Taylor, imo.
You think DF is better without MT?
I like it better without constant soloing, like Taylor did on the Marquee. And I love Ronnie's bender
To me, DF is a great country song, not a guitar vehicle.
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kleermaker
Wake me up when MT is playing on another song than MR, SA and Satisfaction.
BV, with all due respect, did you hear casual fans complain at shows on the No Security Tour or the Licks tour when they didn't play some of their major songs or played a more challenging set list? Set aside the club/theatre shows and you still have high priced tickets $300-$400+ US face value in arenas on those tours with much more interesting set lists, especially on Licks. Satisfaction wasn't played once the entire No Security tour if i'm not mistaken. I know you are sick of the set list complaining, i've been lurking and posting on here since I was a teenager, but I just don't agree that playing a few deeper cuts in favor of a couple major hits is going to disappoint that many casual fans as you continue to claim. I just don't buy that argument --- this isn't a Van Morrison or a Bob Dylan situation where their set lists and song variations leave casual fans confused and bewildered. People are paying to see the Stones and dropping in a different song here and there from night to night is not going to upset the casual fan that much. Does the casual high priced ticket fan want to hear songs they know? sure they do, but are they going to feel that cheated if they hear say 7 major hits instead of 9 major hits? I don't think so.Quote
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Pete66
Refreshing setlist, leaving 2 warhorses out. Next time skip JJ Flash and Miss you and play Let's Spend the Night Together and Hot Stuff instead! No one will mind.
Can't wait to see them in June in Europe!
Pete.
Dropping two of the greatest crowd pleasers? Don't think that is a good idea. They will play both at every show until they call it the day.