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Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: January 28, 2014 18:44

From Classic Rock magazine:

Rock In Crisis: Is rock dying?

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: January 28, 2014 18:52

Look at the guitarist in todays younger bands. I don't think these guys have been playing over a year. They can't play lead at at all and just about can play bar major chords. It's really a joke and sad at the same time.



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Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: January 28, 2014 19:34

que?

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: kwf ()
Date: January 28, 2014 19:44

While I usually have little time for the likes of the Grammys or RNRHOF, that Daft Punk song is extremely catchy, and Nile Rodgers is certainly no slouch...

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: January 28, 2014 19:56

Have a listen to White Fence's Live in San Francisco album released last year. Rock music is still around.
[www.castlefacerecords.com]

Just maybe it's not anymore the mainstream music like it used to be until the mid 2000's (White Stripes, QOTSA...)

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: seitan ()
Date: January 28, 2014 21:35

Rock music is not fading away, but maybe you are..How old are you guys anyway? You guys sound so square and old...you must be at least 70 years old or older, am I right, or 100 years old.. I think its funny that old men are complaining again about the music of the youth. When you say that rock is dead or dying - It's like your penis, It's the moment when you are officially too old to be cool anymore and you belong to retirement home.
































Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: lettingitbleed ()
Date: January 28, 2014 21:45

hmmmm I must say seitan, your video clips don't really help you make your point. The 1st one for instance: 80's hasbeens that appear well into their 50s on 3rd facelift?

Pj Harvey is 44 years old and been around for what 20 years? Not exactly a newcomer and on what planet is she rock n roll?!

The Yeah Yeah Yeahs suck. Good example of what shite passed for rock these days.

Supersuckers are a 90s band

These other Randos you mentioned dont appear to be new artists either and from the 90s or earlier.

You are either trolling us or missunderstand the point that was made of not enought NEW (as in this decade) bands having success in rock. And for the record, im 32. Not 70 or 100 quite yet but old enough to remember when young people (at least in the US) cared about rock.

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: seitan ()
Date: January 28, 2014 22:13

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lettingitbleed
hmmmm I must say seitan, your video clips don't really help you make your point. The 1st one for instance: 80's hasbeens that appear well into their 50s on 3rd facelift?

Pj Harvey is 44 years old and been around for what 20 years? Not exactly a newcomer and on what planet is she rock n roll?!

The Yeah Yeah Yeahs suck. Good example of what shite passed for rock these days.

Supersuckers are a 90s band

These other Randos you mentioned dont appear to be new artists either and from the 90s or earlier.

You are either trolling us or missunderstand the point that was made of not enought NEW (as in this decade) bands having success in rock. And for the record, im 32. Not 70 or 100 quite yet but old enough to remember when young people (at least in the US) cared about rock.

Michael Monroe is a perfect example - more popular now then ever, still creative, and playing to audience that wasn't even born back in the eighties when Michael started. Supersuckers are still active and more popular now. I don't care how old PJ Harvey is, it's not a question about her age - some women get better with age - ( besides I posted earlier Strypes where the musicians are 16 years old and playing old school rock n roll and touring festivals around the world)

And if you worry about age - here's THE 45's ( They are 16 years old kids)





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Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: January 28, 2014 22:22

<<when did middle aged men understand what young kids were doing ? Never.>>

The 1950s.

You're forgetting that the first major rock n roll hit/anthem was sung by a middle-aged man, or pretty close to it: Bill Haley was already 30 when Rock Around The Clock became the new young music. Also, Chuck Berry was nearly 30 when he broke big.

The generation gap in rock was created in the mid-1960s by image hucksters like Andrew Loog Oldham and opportunistic songwriters like Pete Townshend making insincere pseudo-statements like My Generation.

Also, young people got to know the name of Dick Clark who became a cultural icon for decades while presenting them with the latest favorites on his American Bandstand show, which ran for 30 years.

There's more to music than just pimples and puberty.



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Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: January 28, 2014 22:22

SEITAN, I feel sorry for your ears. Only Jack White from that group of videos is worth listening to. As an admitted old fart I'm appalled at how uncool and pretentious the younger generation is. It's more about wearing hipster clothes than creating something of high value.

I guess it's mostly young white suburban kids who actually buy rap music. They have absolutely no expectations that their artists grow and create something new. Has there ever been a supposed 'music' that sat there and did the same thing over and over as rap? I actually heard Coolio complain that some black performers could 'only' sing. Rap artists can't even do that. They very cynically know their audience and their low demands.

I advocate that the young generation unplug the guitar cords and go find something new. New instruments, something. You obviously can't produce anything with any balls to it that advances the art. Yes, there's a lot of old farts with closed ears. Mine are wide open and except for Jack White, and Queens of the Stone Age, new rock and roll is lightweight crap.



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Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: wolfmeister ()
Date: January 28, 2014 22:34

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seitan
Nothing wrong with rock music these days. there's million great new bands out there...It's not dying. Its doing great.

This thread seems to be old farts complaining about not being in touch with what kids are doing thread, cause they have become too old.

You guys are just too old, way too ooooooold !! and lame, - youre not young anymore, should go to retirement home, now.


millions great new bands? bollocks is there.

name some good bands then, NOT doing shitty cookie cutter drivel.

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: deeppurple ()
Date: January 28, 2014 22:51

Old man and proud of it. Saw the Stones for the 1st time in '69. The energy of a Who concert in 1970. Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple both in '73. I grew up when Rock Gods walked the earth. I miss that age! Look at the albums that came out between '68 and '73. Look at what has come out in the past 6 years...

24FPS, you said it perfect. Thanks for summing up the way I feel.



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Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 28, 2014 23:36

....dunno about ROCK but my curtains sure are with all this sun light ...



ROCKMAN

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: January 28, 2014 23:40

Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??

If I listing to the radio lately YES..........................man what a shitty music they play nowedays..........even my old fashion music station skipped the great "old" music........

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Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: woodyweaving ()
Date: January 29, 2014 01:27

That white denim track! Did not expect it. Nice to have something that comes straight at you frrm the get go. AND drums that are mixed well and don't sound like tin cans - something you don't always getting with modern drumming.

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Date: January 29, 2014 01:34

We won't get our lives turned by musicians from several generations. We grow too old, and like our parents we can't stand what our kids are listening to.

Nothing new there...

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: January 29, 2014 01:50

Quote
Stoneage
Everything fades away. Why should rock music be excluded?

No it doesn't. Literature of all kinds is still with us, art is still with us, so is classical music, folk music, jazz, and pretty much every other kind of music. Why should rock music be different?

(Surprised to hear that UK rock died with Oasis, btw. Arctic Monkeys were/are pretty huge, and I personally love them.)

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: January 29, 2014 02:04

I brainwash my ownself on regular basis since the early 70's by listening to blues, rockandroll, real rythmandblues, soul and reggae.That's fine. Better me doing it than somebody else with shitty music. So I am biaised towards"new" musical genres; I don't like them.
Rock and roll will never die.
Rock and roll,
Mops

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: January 29, 2014 03:02

Check out Kill It Kid, one of my favorite current 'rock' bands:












Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: January 29, 2014 03:11

Quote
DandelionPowderman
We won't get our lives turned by musicians from several generations. We grow too old, and like our parents we can't stand what our kids are listening to.

Nothing new there...

I like a lot of what my kids listen to...it's mostly forgettable pop, but so is a lot of what I listened to at their age. And, some of it is actually really good. Still, I like the music I grew up with best, and I expect they will feel the same way someday.

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: January 29, 2014 03:24

Quote
Koen
Check out Kill It Kid, one of my favorite current 'rock' bands:

Oh, yes, they're fantastic! Yet to play the US, unfortunately.

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: January 29, 2014 03:29

Rock does not fade away with Scotch tape. grinning smiley




Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: January 29, 2014 06:44

Quote
Max'sKansasCity


The shammys are

I didnt watch the shammys, .

Ya, that's a good name for it, or as my buddy Rick the Bass Player calls it...The crappy's

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: January 29, 2014 07:10

Quote
Hairball
From Classic Rock magazine:

Rock In Crisis: Is rock dying?

Sort of ironic how that Classic Rock article uses a clip of The Doors' The End for its "end of rock" article, because The Doors recorded a track in 1969 titled Rock Is Dead as part of the Soft Parade sessions. It seems the end of rock is almost as old as rock itself.





Hi you lady... alright babe... gonna love ya...

When I was just a little boy, 'bout the age of five
I went to sleep,
I heard my mama and papa talking -
She said
We got to stop that boy, he's gettin too far out,
He's goin' wild, we gotta stop that child.
And I lay there listening, feeling bad -
You know, people, I was feeling bad.
Mama didn't like the way I did my thing.
The old lady, she didn't get with that thing.
But my daddy was a sailor, get his head around,
And he said
Boy you got to do it son, get yourself intact,
You gotta love love love love love my baby tonight.
Let me tell you baby 'bout the death of rock,
I used to be a boy in my home block,
Used to feel alone then I heard some news,
Bunch o'cats got the rockin' news.
You know I love my rock'n'roll people,
You know we got some fun,
We gonna rock tonight, yeah c'mon...
Rock and roll is dead.
Rock and roll is dead,
Must be something else instead.
You got to lay right down and
Die, die, die, die yeah...
It's all over baby
That's it
We gotta go
We had some good times
But it's gone
It's all over.

I got a few things on my chest, I got to get 'em off...
Now listen listen listen listen listen...
Now I don't want to hear no talk about no revolution,
And I swear to God I don't want to hear
No talk about no constitution.
And in my frame of mind I am in no mood for
No talk about no... cremation.
The only thing I'm interested in...
I wanna have a good time.
I don't wanna hear no talk about no riots,
No demonstrations, no cacitritions, no impablermations.
There's only one thing I want to see...
That's some dancin' !
We're gonna have some fun !
We're gonna have a good time!
Let's roll !

O boogie... all night long... yeah...
Rocky little woman be my pal,
Gonna be the fool, gotta deep-dap-doo,
You gotta love, love, love ya baby little lotta-gita-do.
Yeah c'mon...

Yeah, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute
Wait a minute !
Now listen here people !
I'm talkin' about the death of rock and roll,
And who killed it.
I'm talkin' about the blues.
I'm talkin' about the news.
Have you heard, have you heard,
Have you heard the word ?
Rock is dead.
Rock is dead.
Now I didn't want to be the one to lay it on ya sweetheart,
But I used to be a little fellow traveller.
I used to think we had the whole thing sewed up, mama.
Then I realised,
Rock and roll is dying, baby.
I wanna see some fun !
I wanna see some hanging out !
I wanna see my people
Non-political
Arithmetical
Transcendental
Irathamadental
Coolambindang bupalookanimbo... !
Are you ready ?
Are you ready ?
Are you ready to sing the blues my baby ?

Yeah, I like it real slow,
I like it real bad,
I like to get myself together
I love to hear you get undressed -
Naked woman, out of doors,
I don't care how loud you snore.
Sun goin' down, way out on the sea,
Here she comes, little girl, gonna set me free.
Alright c'mon, now... one more time...

Yeah...
Train a'ride - - - sixteen coaches long
Train a'ride - - - sixteen coaches long
Well I got my baby,
Gonna get on the train and run, yeah...
Well that big black train gonna get my baby,
Big black train,
Yeah the big black train gonna get my love,
Gonna take her, gonna hug her, gonna... whoa !!
Gonna love, love, love, love a dingo yeah...
Big black train.

Now when I got home,
I heard my daddy say,

You want a little piece ?
Do you want a little peace ?
Do you want a little soul ?
Do you want a little soul ?

I could not help myself, I could not help myself,
I could not help !
Help ! Help !
I'm dyin' ! I'm dyin' ! I'm dyin' !
I'm die - die - digadigadoohdah whoa !

It's over !
It's over !
Have mercy !
Have mercy !
Have mercy on your poor son !

We had some good times.
We had a few good times.
But
Those good little times - you know where they are ?
They're absolutely, positively under the ground.
And
As long as I got breath, the death of rock
Is the death of me,
And rock is dead
Well, we're dead... alright... yeah !...

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Date: January 29, 2014 08:27

rock music started slowly dying in the mid 90's

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Date: January 29, 2014 09:36

Quote
latebloomer
Quote
DandelionPowderman
We won't get our lives turned by musicians from several generations. We grow too old, and like our parents we can't stand what our kids are listening to.

Nothing new there...

I like a lot of what my kids listen to...it's mostly forgettable pop, but so is a lot of what I listened to at their age. And, some of it is actually really good. Still, I like the music I grew up with best, and I expect they will feel the same way someday.

So do I, but that's the reason for the complaining, not that the current music is so bad smiling smiley

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: Glammy ()
Date: January 29, 2014 11:34

There's a lot of great (and successfull) rock music outthere, e.g. Foo Fighters, Biffy Clayro or Nickelback (the latter I don't like). They sell a ton of records and playing huge venues. The scene changed from the 70s and 80s. There are no huge superstars anymore like back in the day. There aren't any Led Zeppelin's, Queen's, The Who's, or Guns 'n Roses anymore. Rock 'n Roll isn't that glamourous, dangerous or whatever it was way back when anymore. Personally I find the rock scene of nowdays a bit boring. But that doesn't change the fact that there is still a huge and pretty successfull rock scene excisting.



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Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: AlanPartridge ()
Date: January 29, 2014 12:25

The Grammys are not an indication of the current state of music it is all about marketing/sales/image.

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: Floorbird ()
Date: January 29, 2014 12:29

I'm 61 and at one time there was a roll added to rock, but they took that out and made it into art, progressive, heavy, metal rock.
In the fifties and early sixties rock'n'roll was dance music recorded to sound good on the car radio through am radio and usually no more than two and a half minutes.
Along came FM radio stations where the DJ had free rein(not for long) over what and how long they played a record, so long to top 40.
Bring back the roll.

Re: Is ROCK MUSIC really fading away??
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: January 29, 2014 16:34

Quote
BluzDude
Quote
Max'sKansasCity


The shammys are

I didnt watch the shammys, .

Ya, that's a good name for it, or as my buddy Rick the Bass Player calls it...The crappy's
Is that Joe Walsh's buddy too... or am I thinking of Neil Young?

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