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No. Its as big a dip in quality as the one between Some Girls and Emotional Rescue.
Haha.... Your good for a laugh HM, I'll give you that.
Let It Bleed is a weird incomplete sounding transitional thing.
I have to investigate this one............ weird incomplete!!!!!
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Yes, it is neither the original Rolling Stones or the Supergroup Stones, but the transition inbetween.
Are you one of those numbskulls that can't appreciate music outside of blues rock idiom?
Yes, I'd heartily concur.
GHS is not a bad album, it's seriously not even a contender for 'Big 5' status though.
It's not bad at all, just not among their very best.
You don't really like Beggars Banquet or Let It Bleed though.
On the contrary HM, I love all sorts of music. Starting with 'The blues rock idiom' and ending with classical, while taking in reggae, country and everything else inbetween!
Your suggestion that Let it Bleed is a weird, incomplete and transitional album is laughable. It is in no way weird. (GHS is weird, and all the better for it) It is in no way incomplete. It is as complete as any great album can be. It also fits perfectly between the album it follows (Bb) and the album it procedes (SF) and thus, is in no way transitional!
You lump Beggars in with The Rolling Stone, Aftermath, Satanic, BTB and call them the big six. Beggars does not fit in with those albums. It fits in with the albums that follow it. Beggars marks the point where they went from being a great singles band, into a great albums band. Beggars is when the Stones truly found their sound and became 'The greatest rock n roll band in the world.' Thus it is BB that is the transitional album
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I love them both and they have fantastic songs on them. But I agree on the qualification of Let It Bleed as "a weird incomplete sounding transitional thing". I've said that myself before in other words. Nevertheless it has phenomenal songs on it: Shelter, Get What You Want, Rambler, to name a few.
Beggars' Sympathy I don't like that much, but again, it's a monster of a song. No Expectations stands out, but Salt Of The Earth, Jigsaw Puzzle, Street F. Man and Stray Cat Blues are top songs too.
Your right, so many Stones fans have a lot of affection for GHS. It's a effed up little rock n roll record.
Emotional Rescue tends to get lumped together with Satanic and Dirty Work as being amongst their worst.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
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Date: December 30, 2013 23:37
Should GHS be added to the BIG 4 list and make it a 5 album run of the greatest music ever recorded?
Beggars Banquet
Let It Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Exile on Main St
Goats Head Soup
Love this album:
Dancing with Mr. D
100 Years Ago
Coming Down Again
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Angie
Silver Train
Hide Your Love
Winter
Can You Hear the Music
Star Star
Beggars Banquet
Let It Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Exile on Main St
Goats Head Soup
Love this album:
Dancing with Mr. D
100 Years Ago
Coming Down Again
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Angie
Silver Train
Hide Your Love
Winter
Can You Hear the Music
Star Star
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
achilles77
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Date: December 30, 2013 23:43
Absolutely. Call it the Jimmy Miller run.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: December 30, 2013 23:50
If history had any sense whatsoever the greatest run of music would've started with Goats Head Soup and worked backwards...
But history doesn't
But history doesn't
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 30, 2013 23:58
No, it is far too uninspired in comparison to nearly every UK stones album that came before.
The Rolling Stones, Aftermath, Between The Buttons, Their Satanic Majesties Request, Beggars Banquet are the original Rolling stones big 5.
Let It Bleed is a weird incomplete sounding transitional thing.
Sticky Fingers and Exile is a different band, but great solid blues rock music and a natural conclusion for the inspired song writing of Jagger Richards.
Something changed after that.
No.2 and Out Of Our Heads are so-so, GHS, IORR, B&B belongs in with those.
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The Rolling Stones, Aftermath, Between The Buttons, Their Satanic Majesties Request, Beggars Banquet are the original Rolling stones big 5.
Let It Bleed is a weird incomplete sounding transitional thing.
Sticky Fingers and Exile is a different band, but great solid blues rock music and a natural conclusion for the inspired song writing of Jagger Richards.
Something changed after that.
No.2 and Out Of Our Heads are so-so, GHS, IORR, B&B belongs in with those.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-31 00:00 by His Majesty.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
Gazza
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Date: December 31, 2013 00:00
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2000 LYFH
Should GHS be added to the BIG 4 list and make it a 5 album run of the greatest music ever recorded?
No. Its as big a dip in quality as the one between Some Girls and Emotional Rescue.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
NICOS
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Date: December 31, 2013 00:07
When Goats Head Soup was released I was really disappointed (compare to BB, Bleed EOMS and SF....I missed the soul and roots back then.........but years went by and the crappy stuff they released after '88........I'm in to add it to there best 10 records
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Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
strat72
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Date: December 31, 2013 00:11
I love GHS, it's a damn fine album. It does not belong in the big four though.
BB, LIB, SF and EOMS are as close to rock n roll perfection as any band got.
BB, LIB, SF and EOMS are as close to rock n roll perfection as any band got.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
strat72
()
Date: December 31, 2013 00:13
Quote
His Majesty
No, it is far too uninspired in comparison to nearly every UK stones album that came before.
The Rolling Stones, Aftermath, Between The Buttons, Their Satanic Majesties Request, Beggars Banquet are the original Rolling stones big 5.
Let It Bleed is a weird incomplete sounding transitional thing.
Haha.... Your good for a laugh HM, I'll give you that.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
NICOS
()
Date: December 31, 2013 00:18
Quote
strat72Quote
His Majesty
No, it is far too uninspired in comparison to nearly every UK stones album that came before.
The Rolling Stones, Aftermath, Between The Buttons, Their Satanic Majesties Request, Beggars Banquet are the original Rolling stones big 5.
Let It Bleed is a weird incomplete sounding transitional thing.
Haha.... Your good for a laugh HM, I'll give you that.
Let It Bleed is a weird incomplete sounding transitional thing.
I have to investigate this one............ weird incomplete!!!!!
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Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 31, 2013 00:32
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NICOS
I have to investigate this one............ weird incomplete!!!!!
Yes, it is neither the original Rolling Stones or the Supergroup Stones, but the transition inbetween.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: December 31, 2013 00:35
it's wonderful with it's Jamaican haze....but nope it ain't up there with the BIG 4 ...
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
Captainchaos
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Date: December 31, 2013 00:36
'Let it Bleed' and 'Brussels Affair - Definitive Edition' are my most played albums.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 31, 2013 00:36
Quote
strat72
Haha.... Your good for a laugh HM, I'll give you that.
Are you one of those numbskulls that can't appreciate music outside of blues rock idiom?
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
Grison
()
Date: December 31, 2013 00:55
Despite artists who showed on one Album their following musical direction the Rolling Stones did more capture a time or trend of the Status quo at the presence when recording an album.
Their grew from Rolling Stones No 1 into the their own sixties which concluded Let it Bleed and some fabolous Albums in between. Then the seventies started with their own Story to be Exiled in France. It showed a different dramatic era of Rock and Roll and went into Goats head Soup which highlighted the smoke and dope and glamourous era of Rock Music. It's only Rock and Roll did not back up with any tour but showed another Balance of blues/rock and introduced somehow Ronnie Wood. Black and blue was a bow to reaggae and roll and perhaps the blacker album in the seventies while Some Girls gave the anser that their are not to old to discopunksock. Tattoo You marked the beginning of the 80ies with more "soft"pieces and the never played live Slave. It also changed the Stones life from big selling Albums to record breaking live Stadium tours.
I could go on until today and perhaps I can't really express all their musical presence in certain time lines. But nevertheless it was always the Stones who created their own musical time line in every respect.
All the named Big 4 or 5 are my favourites.
Their grew from Rolling Stones No 1 into the their own sixties which concluded Let it Bleed and some fabolous Albums in between. Then the seventies started with their own Story to be Exiled in France. It showed a different dramatic era of Rock and Roll and went into Goats head Soup which highlighted the smoke and dope and glamourous era of Rock Music. It's only Rock and Roll did not back up with any tour but showed another Balance of blues/rock and introduced somehow Ronnie Wood. Black and blue was a bow to reaggae and roll and perhaps the blacker album in the seventies while Some Girls gave the anser that their are not to old to discopunksock. Tattoo You marked the beginning of the 80ies with more "soft"pieces and the never played live Slave. It also changed the Stones life from big selling Albums to record breaking live Stadium tours.
I could go on until today and perhaps I can't really express all their musical presence in certain time lines. But nevertheless it was always the Stones who created their own musical time line in every respect.
All the named Big 4 or 5 are my favourites.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
NedKelly
()
Date: December 31, 2013 00:59
I´d say
Let It Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Exile on Main St
Goats Head Soup
It´s only rock´n roll
Black and blue
Some girls
are the BIG 7!
Let It Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Exile on Main St
Goats Head Soup
It´s only rock´n roll
Black and blue
Some girls
are the BIG 7!
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
Blueranger
()
Date: December 31, 2013 01:13
My respect for the album is bigger now.
When I heard it years ago (I'm from 1980, so it must be about 1995 I heard it), I thought it was a very uninspired listening experience.
However, it is clear for me now, that they wanted to try different textures and sounds and get away from the Exile sound. On those grounds, they succeded.
It will never be a favourite, but it stands as a nice alternative when I want to explore their discography. It has very nice songs and is miles away from the big four, which granted, are their best work, but sometimes it can also be good to look at an artists lesser work to understand their masterpieces better.
When I heard it years ago (I'm from 1980, so it must be about 1995 I heard it), I thought it was a very uninspired listening experience.
However, it is clear for me now, that they wanted to try different textures and sounds and get away from the Exile sound. On those grounds, they succeded.
It will never be a favourite, but it stands as a nice alternative when I want to explore their discography. It has very nice songs and is miles away from the big four, which granted, are their best work, but sometimes it can also be good to look at an artists lesser work to understand their masterpieces better.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 31, 2013 01:20
No, GHS is not even in the top 10 list...
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
()
Date: December 31, 2013 01:25
Quote
DandelionPowderman
No, GHS is not even in the top 10 list...
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: December 31, 2013 01:39
Why not the Big 6, because it so happens that Black and Blue is the first Stones album chronologically speaking, that I have a problem with listening all the way through without the desire to skip over certain tracks.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: December 31, 2013 01:53
Quote
2000 LYFHQuote
DandelionPowderman
No, GHS is not even in the top 10 list...
Yes, I'd heartily concur.
GHS is not a bad album, it's seriously not even a contender for 'Big 5' status though.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:11
Ya Ya's belongs to the 'big five' and for me GHS winds up the 'big' six.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:13
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
2000 LYFHQuote
DandelionPowderman
No, GHS is not even in the top 10 list...
Yes, I'd heartily concur.
GHS is not a bad album, it's seriously not even a contender for 'Big 5' status though.
It's not bad at all, just not among their very best.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:18
Quote
kleermaker
Ya Ya's belongs to the 'big five' and for me GHS winds up the 'big' six.
You don't really like Beggars Banquet or Let It Bleed though.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
strat72
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:29
Quote
His MajestyQuote
strat72
Haha.... Your good for a laugh HM, I'll give you that.
Are you one of those numbskulls that can't appreciate music outside of blues rock idiom?
On the contrary HM, I love all sorts of music. Starting with 'The blues rock idiom' and ending with classical, while taking in reggae, country and everything else inbetween!
Your suggestion that Let it Bleed is a weird, incomplete and transitional album is laughable. It is in no way weird. (GHS is weird, and all the better for it) It is in no way incomplete. It is as complete as any great album can be. It also fits perfectly between the album it follows (Bb) and the album it procedes (SF) and thus, is in no way transitional!
You lump Beggars in with The Rolling Stone, Aftermath, Satanic, BTB and call them the big six. Beggars does not fit in with those albums. It fits in with the albums that follow it. Beggars marks the point where they went from being a great singles band, into a great albums band. Beggars is when the Stones truly found their sound and became 'The greatest rock n roll band in the world.' Thus it is BB that is the transitional album
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-31 02:30 by strat72.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
MadMax
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:30
Well I agree about Let It Bleed about being a bit transitional. GHS is probably the most interesting Stones-album aura-wise, it has that atmosphere that no other album comes Close....
Like the evening sun in the early spring.... Somehow... Bought it a stones' throw from Keiths house outside of Montreaux back in the Days... Weird coincidence....
You're a rag trade girl, You're the queen of porn, You're the easiest lay on the white house lawn!!
Like the evening sun in the early spring.... Somehow... Bought it a stones' throw from Keiths house outside of Montreaux back in the Days... Weird coincidence....
You're a rag trade girl, You're the queen of porn, You're the easiest lay on the white house lawn!!
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
tomk
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:37
I think you'd be surprised at how many people, myself included, got turned on to the Stones because of GHS. Don't think you could say that about Emotional Rescue, though.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:43
Goats Head Soup is OK, just not great. I may even give it a spin occasionally. It’s not an era – Stones-wise, anyway – that I’m particularly interested in. I love Brussels Affair, though.
My top-5 would be :-
Sticky Fingers
Let It Bleed
Beggars Banquet
Exile On Main Street
The Rolling Stones (Decca LP)
My top-5 would be :-
Sticky Fingers
Let It Bleed
Beggars Banquet
Exile On Main Street
The Rolling Stones (Decca LP)
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:48
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His MajestyQuote
kleermaker
Ya Ya's belongs to the 'big five' and for me GHS winds up the 'big' six.
You don't really like Beggars Banquet or Let It Bleed though.
I love them both and they have fantastic songs on them. But I agree on the qualification of Let It Bleed as "a weird incomplete sounding transitional thing". I've said that myself before in other words. Nevertheless it has phenomenal songs on it: Shelter, Get What You Want, Rambler, to name a few.
Beggars' Sympathy I don't like that much, but again, it's a monster of a song. No Expectations stands out, but Salt Of The Earth, Jigsaw Puzzle, Street F. Man and Stray Cat Blues are top songs too.
Re: Should the BIG 4 be the BIG 5
Posted by:
strat72
()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:51
Quote
tomk
I think you'd be surprised at how many people, myself included, got turned on to the Stones because of GHS. Don't think you could say that about Emotional Rescue, though.
Your right, so many Stones fans have a lot of affection for GHS. It's a effed up little rock n roll record.
Emotional Rescue tends to get lumped together with Satanic and Dirty Work as being amongst their worst.
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