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Eggzactly - MT's vocals are bland at best. I think I even prefer Bill Wyman's vocals over his, bland as his are too.
Taylor's has a bluesy, rather soulful voice. Wood's voice is an aquired taste, pretty raspy.
What is interesting is that they perfectly complement each other and actually sound great singing together. As was in evidence at the NYC gigs last month.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-15 00:34 by Chacal.
when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
They agreed a draw lately and enjoyed it. Both as a singer and guitarist. They are no chess players.
Well, he certainly got a grip on his singing on I Feel Like Playing. I agree about a couple of albums before that, though.
Today, he sings pretty good, imo.
Seemingly, taking lessons (guessing), quitting drugs and booze helped a lot.
You gotta admit that the Far East Man-vocals are way more than "tolerable"??
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
It sounds like Mick Taylor...
Ah, you beat me to it. LOL. IAW u re MT's vocals.
...trying to sound like the Stones on that particular number
I don't mind the comparison, but if he tried, then it's only good.
I do, DP, but we all know George helped him out on that one!
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
I really like his singing on Slide on This though.
Mathijs
He he, yes I do. In fact, I'm probably listening way more to other bands and musicians nowadays
However, when straycatblues73 said Taylor should have brought in Jagger to finish this song, it is for a reason. This track, in particular, is the Stonesy one on Mick Taylor's first album. Some also say its lyrics is about why he left the group, as well as a sticking a few thorns in their sides.
For me, the sound on Broken Hands is pure Stones - from the Keith riffs (played in standard tuning, btw) to the rougher attitude in his vocals and the drive in the song. At least, it sounds like that's what he wants to achieve. There's only one problem: It doesn't sound that way - like all the other bands who wanna sound like the Stones. So when Taylor plays the archetypical Keith riff, he lacks the depth as well as the power and timing. It's the same when Ronnie tries it with the Faces. It just isn't right, imo.
I thought this was obvious - maybe it isn't. IMO, he doesn't succeed in creating the sound, but it's one of the few good songs on the album anyway.
A pretty daring question on your fifth post, Chacal. You wouldn't be one of the returning prodigal IORR-sons, would you?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-16 12:03 by DandelionPowderman.
Fact is that this is a RS fan club. I plead guilty though, seemed to have forgotten that over the years.
He didn't help him out on this one. The difference between Taylor (who is totally ok on vocals, but nothing more, imo) is within how much soul that comes across to the listener, imo.
Even on a Beatles fan club, that track would lead the listener to Keith and the Stones
Chapeaux to Taylor then. Besides he was a Stone.
He sure was, but the interesting this with this track is that he never played like that IN the Stones
Taylor moves in a mysterious way, DP..
He sure did in London (Nov 25), and I loved it!
Taylor played it in open E, DP.
Yep, I listened to it now. Open E it is. That's probably what made it sound so different - same with Ronnie in the Faces. The "Keith riffs" won't get the same ringing with the thicker strings.
On the other hand that chord progression is a tad too predictable, methinks..,
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Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 14, 2013 23:45
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Love Mick Taylor's playing. But he is not a lead vocalist. Pretty bland.
Eggzactly - MT's vocals are bland at best. I think I even prefer Bill Wyman's vocals over his, bland as his are too.
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Date: December 15, 2013 00:18
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We won't be having an endless Wood/Taylor debate here this time. Taylor just isn't a good singer, and doesn't have a good voice.
Mathijs
Wood is worse.
...and we're off! Personally, I think it's a tie.
Taylor's has a bluesy, rather soulful voice. Wood's voice is an aquired taste, pretty raspy.
What is interesting is that they perfectly complement each other and actually sound great singing together. As was in evidence at the NYC gigs last month.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-15 00:34 by Chacal.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 15, 2013 19:42
Wood was tolerable on Ooh La La and his first solor records, and now is unlistenable. I think Taylor did a damn fine job on his first solo record, but now just sings like a million other blues-based guitarists - functionally at best.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 15, 2013 19:43
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Can't agree totally, but I'm glad you enjoy it, Jane:
when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
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Date: December 15, 2013 19:58
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We won't be having an endless Wood/Taylor debate here this time. Taylor just isn't a good singer, and doesn't have a good voice.
Mathijs
Wood is worse.
...and we're off! Personally, I think it's a tie.
They agreed a draw lately and enjoyed it. Both as a singer and guitarist. They are no chess players.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 15, 2013 20:18
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Wood was tolerable on Ooh La La and his first solor records, and now is unlistenable. I think Taylor did a damn fine job on his first solo record, but now just sings like a million other blues-based guitarists - functionally at best.
Well, he certainly got a grip on his singing on I Feel Like Playing. I agree about a couple of albums before that, though.
Today, he sings pretty good, imo.
Seemingly, taking lessons (guessing), quitting drugs and booze helped a lot.
You gotta admit that the Far East Man-vocals are way more than "tolerable"??
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 15, 2013 20:19
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Can't agree totally, but I'm glad you enjoy it, Jane:
when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
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Date: December 15, 2013 20:33
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Can't agree totally, but I'm glad you enjoy it, Jane:
when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
It sounds like Mick Taylor...
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 15, 2013 20:48
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Mick Taylor's Vocals...
... are very very bland.
He is a much better vocalist than Brian Jones.
Not hard to do, but atleast Brian wasn't bland. ><
Ah, you beat me to it. LOL. IAW u re MT's vocals.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 15, 2013 21:46
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Can't agree totally, but I'm glad you enjoy it, Jane:
when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
It sounds like Mick Taylor...
...trying to sound like the Stones on that particular number
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Date: December 15, 2013 21:59
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Can't agree totally, but I'm glad you enjoy it, Jane:
when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
It sounds like Mick Taylor...
...trying to sound like the Stones on that particular number
I don't mind the comparison, but if he tried, then it's only good.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 15, 2013 23:30
Sounds good, but different, imo.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 01:51
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Wood was tolerable on Ooh La La and his first solor records, and now is unlistenable. I think Taylor did a damn fine job on his first solo record, but now just sings like a million other blues-based guitarists - functionally at best.
Well, he certainly got a grip on his singing on I Feel Like Playing. I agree about a couple of albums before that, though.
Today, he sings pretty good, imo.
Seemingly, taking lessons (guessing), quitting drugs and booze helped a lot.
You gotta admit that the Far East Man-vocals are way more than "tolerable"??
I do, DP, but we all know George helped him out on that one!
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 02:31
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when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 11:17
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Wood was tolerable on Ooh La La and his first solor records, and now is unlistenable. I think Taylor did a damn fine job on his first solo record, but now just sings like a million other blues-based guitarists - functionally at best.
I really like his singing on Slide on This though.
Mathijs
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Date: December 16, 2013 12:01
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when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
He he, yes I do. In fact, I'm probably listening way more to other bands and musicians nowadays
However, when straycatblues73 said Taylor should have brought in Jagger to finish this song, it is for a reason. This track, in particular, is the Stonesy one on Mick Taylor's first album. Some also say its lyrics is about why he left the group, as well as a sticking a few thorns in their sides.
For me, the sound on Broken Hands is pure Stones - from the Keith riffs (played in standard tuning, btw) to the rougher attitude in his vocals and the drive in the song. At least, it sounds like that's what he wants to achieve. There's only one problem: It doesn't sound that way - like all the other bands who wanna sound like the Stones. So when Taylor plays the archetypical Keith riff, he lacks the depth as well as the power and timing. It's the same when Ronnie tries it with the Faces. It just isn't right, imo.
I thought this was obvious - maybe it isn't. IMO, he doesn't succeed in creating the sound, but it's one of the few good songs on the album anyway.
A pretty daring question on your fifth post, Chacal. You wouldn't be one of the returning prodigal IORR-sons, would you?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-16 12:03 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 12:06
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when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
Fact is that this is a RS fan club. I plead guilty though, seemed to have forgotten that over the years.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 12:07
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Wood was tolerable on Ooh La La and his first solor records, and now is unlistenable. I think Taylor did a damn fine job on his first solo record, but now just sings like a million other blues-based guitarists - functionally at best.
Well, he certainly got a grip on his singing on I Feel Like Playing. I agree about a couple of albums before that, though.
Today, he sings pretty good, imo.
Seemingly, taking lessons (guessing), quitting drugs and booze helped a lot.
You gotta admit that the Far East Man-vocals are way more than "tolerable"??
I do, DP, but we all know George helped him out on that one!
He didn't help him out on this one. The difference between Taylor (who is totally ok on vocals, but nothing more, imo) is within how much soul that comes across to the listener, imo.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 12:08
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when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
Fact is that this is a RS fan club. I plead guilty though, seemed to have forgotten that over the years.
Even on a Beatles fan club, that track would lead the listener to Keith and the Stones
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 12:15
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when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
Fact is that this is a RS fan club. I plead guilty though, seemed to have forgotten that over the years.
Even on a Beatles fan club, that track would lead the listener to Keith and the Stones
Chapeaux to Taylor then. Besides he was a Stone.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 12:16
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when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
Fact is that this is a RS fan club. I plead guilty though, seemed to have forgotten that over the years.
Even on a Beatles fan club, that track would lead the listener to Keith and the Stones
Chapeaux to Taylor then. Besides he was a Stone.
He sure was, but the interesting this with this track is that he never played like that IN the Stones
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 12:21
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when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
Fact is that this is a RS fan club. I plead guilty though, seemed to have forgotten that over the years.
Even on a Beatles fan club, that track would lead the listener to Keith and the Stones
Chapeaux to Taylor then. Besides he was a Stone.
He sure was, but the interesting this with this track is that he never played like that IN the Stones
Taylor moves in a mysterious way, DP..
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Date: December 16, 2013 12:24
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when that was recorded he should have got mick jagger to overdub the vocals and removed his own , I love the song myself but that would have been fantastic! its easy to imagine MJ vocals on this.
It still wouldn't sound like the Stones, imo. Something about the guitars...
Your comment seems to be based on the notion that everything should sound like the Stones...
Did you know there's life outside (and after) the Stones ?
Fact is that this is a RS fan club. I plead guilty though, seemed to have forgotten that over the years.
Even on a Beatles fan club, that track would lead the listener to Keith and the Stones
Chapeaux to Taylor then. Besides he was a Stone.
He sure was, but the interesting this with this track is that he never played like that IN the Stones
Taylor moves in a mysterious way, DP..
He sure did in London (Nov 25), and I loved it!
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 14:28
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For me, the sound on Broken Hands is pure Stones - from the Keith riffs (played in standard tuning, btw)
Taylor played it in open E, DP.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 16, 2013 14:35
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For me, the sound on Broken Hands is pure Stones - from the Keith riffs (played in standard tuning, btw)
Taylor played it in open E, DP.
Yep, I listened to it now. Open E it is. That's probably what made it sound so different - same with Ronnie in the Faces. The "Keith riffs" won't get the same ringing with the thicker strings.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
Posted by:
LuxuryStones
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Date: December 20, 2013 01:21
Another good performance.
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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DandelionPowderman
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Date: December 20, 2013 02:35
LOL to what? I haven't watched the video. ..
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 23, 2013 19:01
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What is interesting is that they perfectly complement each other and actually sound great singing together. As was in evidence at the NYC gigs last month.
On the other hand that chord progression is a tad too predictable, methinks..,
Re: Mick Taylor's Vocals
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Date: December 26, 2013 15:39
Mick Taylor's vocals sound better as Keith Richards.
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