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duke richardson
Bill has his own band now. he got mad at the Stones.
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Highwire.uk
I don't think Bill will ever tour with the band again but I think The Stones are missing a chance to make a a new album with Bill & Mick Taylor .if Mick & Keith have the songs why not ASK Bill and Mick T to get into the studio in UK where they live. Tell Mr Jones to take a rest till show time.I'm sure he won't mind after all he will be well paid.
Just think we the fans could get the album we want the full band Mick Keith Ronnie Bill Charlie & Mick Taylor Also keep Chuck on the USA side keep him for the live shows.Get Ben Waters to sit in. Sounds like the line up to make an album to remember.
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triceratops
My take is that Mick is afraid of putting out a new Stones album because it might get panned. Since Mick is not writing with Keith anymore, intruducing new tunes to record will not be organic and spontaneous the way it once was. Maybe Chuck the musical director can break this impasse
Mick would rather play it safe by playing the old catalog. By playing the old old catalog as in pre-1980. Concerts are where the big money is these days. New albums are tour promotion vehicles because they don't bring in much money for anyone. Springsteen makes a lot more playing live and he is one act who probably sells a decent number of CDs on new album releases
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Highwire.uk
I don't think Bill will ever tour with the band again but I think The Stones are missing a chance to make a a new album with Bill & Mick Taylor .if Mick & Keith have the songs why not ASK Bill and Mick T to get into the studio in UK where they live. Tell Mr Jones to take a rest till show time.I'm sure he won't mind after all he will be well paid.
Just think we the fans could get the album we want the full band Mick Keith Ronnie Bill Charlie & Mick Taylor Also keep Chuck on the USA side keep him for the live shows.Get Ben Waters to sit in. Sounds like the line up to make an album to remember.
All very well, but it all means nothing without the songs being good to begin with and the hunger/desire being there to make a good record.
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Mel Belli
.... the album format is kind of a 20th century antique anyway.
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ash
What it's not too late for is some more classic concerts. They don't need Bill for that. I'm looking forward to next years shows. Let's hope they maintain the momentum and performance quality from the last round and increase Taylor's contribution. If they do, we're in for some seriously good music.
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24FPS
Let's hope they up the momentum and performance quality from the last round. It was pretty lame for the most part, except for Mick T's cameo on Midnight Rambler most nights. But we know they're going to do the same State Fair/Greatest Hits of the last go round. Yeah, they don't need Bill for that. Hell, they don't need anybody but Mick Jagger for that.
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24FPS
Let's hope they up the momentum and performance quality from the last round. It was pretty lame for the most part, except for Mick T's cameo on Midnight Rambler most nights. But we know they're going to do the same State Fair/Greatest Hits of the last go round. Yeah, they don't need Bill for that. Hell, they don't need anybody but Mick Jagger for that.
really?? what an odd comment.the shows i saw the band was playing really well and that opinion seemed to hold true for most everyone on this board and elsewhere.the stones don't need keith,charlie or ronnie to play their most well known songs? wow.
do you mind if i ask what shows you saw last year?
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stonehearted
The most important thing to remember is that Bill Wyman has never been of vital importance to the actual existence of the band. Though not famously so, they were The Rolling Stones before Wyman joined, and if you read the book Phelge's Stones, even after he joined some members--especially Brian--were still expressing a desire to replace him.
It is only important to fans who first became aware of the original band and who grew accustomed to his playing style and presence. But Wyman was never a core member, and so long as the core of the band remains intact, then other musicians outside that core may come and go as the passage of time and personal differences dictate.
To that core band of musicians, Wyman was only truly needed in those first weeks when he had amplifiers and cigarettes to offer. Now the band can afford its own musical equipment and vices. As Wyman himself acknowledged and illustrated in his book Rolling with the Stones, the band had placed an advert for a bass player quite some time after he had joined and become a full and "permanent" member, noting with bitter irony in the caption below the photo of the advert: "Perhaps my amplifiers and cigarettes weren't enough after all."
Truth be told, whether Bill had joined or not, The Rolling Stones would have existed and become famous regardless.