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Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 26, 2021 09:11

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treaclefingers
I've done a lot of holiday video watching this past week, including the GET BACK series, Every Night's A Saturday Night and the 6 episode Paul McCartney/Rick Rubin series.

Loved every minute of everything...riveting.

As much as I always appreciated and loved the Beatles catalogue, a new perspective when you get to see them working up close...an even greater appreciation for the songs and the performances.

I still prefer the Stones and wonder if we got an expanded recut "Sympathy For the Devil" whether that would be more interesting than the Jean Luc Goddard "One Plus One" cut.

It's too bad that the Stones never got this for anything else. Could you imagine Muscle Shoals?

You have all that footage that was filmed for Circus, I wonder how much of it that wasn't used could be recycled into a 'making of R n R Circus'? Problem is you just wouldn't have the audience size that would financially justify it. Still, the band could just subsidize it (and when I say that realize they never would).

Ah well.

I've seen a tiny bit of the Rubin thing. I thought it was brilliant.

I don't know when I'll get around to seeing GET BACK but I look forward to it.

And it is a shame the Stones don't have such an open eye about their past like The Beatles regardless of the Stones' ongoingisim. A definite lost opportunity.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: December 26, 2021 20:32

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GasLightStreet
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treaclefingers
I've done a lot of holiday video watching this past week, including the GET BACK series, Every Night's A Saturday Night and the 6 episode Paul McCartney/Rick Rubin series.

Loved every minute of everything...riveting.

As much as I always appreciated and loved the Beatles catalogue, a new perspective when you get to see them working up close...an even greater appreciation for the songs and the performances.

I still prefer the Stones and wonder if we got an expanded recut "Sympathy For the Devil" whether that would be more interesting than the Jean Luc Goddard "One Plus One" cut.

It's too bad that the Stones never got this for anything else. Could you imagine Muscle Shoals?

You have all that footage that was filmed for Circus, I wonder how much of it that wasn't used could be recycled into a 'making of R n R Circus'? Problem is you just wouldn't have the audience size that would financially justify it. Still, the band could just subsidize it (and when I say that realize they never would).

Ah well.

I've seen a tiny bit of the Rubin thing. I thought it was brilliant.

I don't know when I'll get around to seeing GET BACK but I look forward to it.

And it is a shame the Stones don't have such an open eye about their past like The Beatles regardless of the Stones' ongoingisim. A definite lost opportunity.[/quote

First thing I noticed watching GET BACK is the almost shocking high quality of the video. I imagine they spent a mint restoring it. It looks like it was recorded yesterday (pun intended). Seeing them in that situation, and watching Macca try to rally the troops was really interesting and definitely gave me what I felt was a clearer understanding as to what was going on, an maybe how underappreciated Paul's contribution was at that time, and how difficult the situation was at that moment.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: ds1984 ()
Date: December 27, 2021 01:19

This was shot in 35 mm not video

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treaclefingers

First thing I noticed watching GET BACK is the almost shocking high quality of the video. I imagine they spent a mint restoring it. It looks like it was recorded yesterday (pun intended). Seeing them in that situation, and watching Macca try to rally the troops was really interesting and definitely gave me what I felt was a clearer understanding as to what was going on, an maybe how underappreciated Paul's contribution was at that time, and how difficult the situation was at that moment.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: December 27, 2021 05:49

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ds1984
This was shot in 35 mm not video

Not so. When I read your comment I was sure it wasn't so, and I dug around and found this.

[www.vanityfair.com]

The movie premiered in May 1970, a month after the Beatles broke up, and was largely regarded as depressing evidence of the band’s dissolution—before promptly going out of circulation. In black-market versions, the original 16-millimeter film, converted to 35-millimeter for the big screen, looked somber, saturated in blues and greens.

Which, of course, makes the purely technical aspect of the restoration even more impressive.

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Captain Corella
50+ Years a Fan

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: angee ()
Date: December 27, 2021 06:46

Watched the doc Get Back over a two-day period, and really enjoyed it, the creation of the music, how Billy Preston came on, the interaction of band members, and the concert. They were amazingly civil with each other, I thought, considering the state of the band, and seemed to love playing together so much once they got going.

As others have said, I wish we could have something like it from the Rolling Stones.
Those here who were let into rehearsals over the years had such a special treat.

~"Love is Strong"~

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: December 27, 2021 08:20





ROCKMAN

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: January 1, 2022 03:01

Nice new article about the Beatles songwriting, and the impact they had:

Beatles' writing duo Lennon and McCartney were so prolific, they had hits to spare

By Martin Orkin
13:59, Thu, Dec 30, 2021 | UPDATED: 14:48, Fri, Dec 31, 2021

Beatles

THE BEATLES hold the record for the most US number one singles and the second most in the UK after Elvis Presley. They remain the world's most successful artists by records sold - over 600 million - and are widely considered the most influential band of all time, thanks largely to the dynamic writing partnership of John Lennon and Paul McCartney. But what is less known is the sheer number of songs they gave away, which helped put some of their peers - from The Rolling Stones to Cilla Black - on the path to stardom. Because of their prolific output, the Fab Four started gifting songs to other artists shortly after the release of their second single and first major hit, Please Please Me, in January 1963. It marked an amazing two years when The Beatles produced sufficient hit songs not just for their own use, but for friends and rivals too. Please Please Me was soon followed up by From Me To You, which spent seven weeks at number 1 and both sides of all three of their singles to date had been written by Lennon and McCartney. Almost all of their future hit singles - Something was written by guitarist George Harrison - were composed by John and Paul as well. But one factor that really marked The Beatles out as extraordinary was the quantity of top quality self-penned material they had available - far more than they could ever use themselves.

In addition, The Beatles spearheaded the Liverpool sound and were at the forefront of Merseymania during 1963, when a seemingly endless stream of Liverpool groups followed in their wake and enjoyed chart success. The Searchers reached number 1 with their first hit and went on to have sustained success during the 1960s. Others who benefited from the Beatles effect included The Merseybeats,The Swinging Blue Jeans and The Scaffold, whose guitarist was Mike McGear, McCartney's younger brother. This gave rise to an unprecedented phenomenon: a group gifting an abundance of their own hitworthy songs to their competitors.The other enormous change in the music business caused by The Beatles' unparalleled songwriting success was the near death of the professional songwriter. Independent writers like Burt Bacharach, Gerry Goffin and Carole King wrote for music acts as lucrative freelance composers. But after The Beatles' pioneering example, many acts switched to writing their own material, including The Rolling Stones and The Kinks. Read on for the amazing roll call of hits The Beatles gave away.

The surprising stars who benefited from the genius of the fab four

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW A SECRET? Given to Billy J. Kramer with The Dakotas in March 1963, this song was a track on The Beatles' first LP which they had no interest in issuing as a single themselves. Kramer took it to number 2 in Britain. (The B side was a winsome ballad called 'I'll Be On My Way'. Another Lennon and McCartney song, it was almost strong enough to become a hit in its own right.

LOVE OF THE LOVED: Cilla Black was the unknown hat-check girl at the Cavern Club in Liverpool until she was taken under Brian Epstein's wing. This compelling beat ballad from Lennon and McCartney was her first single. It only reached number 35 but created enough of a stir to pave the way for the two monster hits that followed from other writers: Anyone Who Had A Heart and You're My World. Cilla had two subsequent top 10 hits with memorable Lennon and McCartney songs penned for her: 1964's It's For You and, in 1968, Step Inside Love.

I WANNA BE YOUR MAN: In November 1963 a new band called The Rolling Stones hammered their way high into the top 20 with this, their aggressive second single. Few realised, until they bought the 45, that this was actually a Lennon and McCartney song. It had just been issued by The Beatles as a lowly track on their second album With The Beatles, sung by Ringo. Later, asked about letting their rivals the Stones have the song, John commented: "We weren't going to give them anything great, right?"

FROM ME TO YOU: Del Shannon, renowned hit maker of classic singles like Runaway, had been touring in Britain with The Beatles. He had seen for himself the mass adulation they were receiving from their fans. He liked their number 1 hit From Me To You, so he covered it for the American market. (The Beatles were unknown in the US at this time, and their original version had already died a death over there.) Shannon's From Me To You charted in the US on June 29, 1963. It only reached number 77 - but it was the very first Beatles song to succeed in America, seven months before they had their own debut hit there with I Want To Hold Your Hand.

A WORLD WITHOUT LOVE: In early 1964, this great McCartney song was given to struggling duo Peter and Gordon. Peter Asher just happened to be the brother of Jane Asher, who McCartney was dating at the time. It went to number 1 in both Britain and America.

WOMAN: After trying out re-treads of old classics (True Love Ways and To Know Him Is To Love Him) with some success, Peter and Gordon returned to Paul McCartney in 1965 for Woman. McCartney was so sensitive about being thought of as a hit factory for others that he insisted the song come out as written by 'Bernard Webb'. Paul claimed he wanted to see if the song would succeed on its own merits - but the truth about its writer came out anyway. It reached number 14 in the US and number 28 in Britain.

And plenty more, including this nice little ditty written by Paul:





And Pauls original demo:





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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: January 1, 2022 23:35

This misterious "friend" of mine was visiting John Lennon's aunt with his mother (sister of John's aunt) for a afternoon tea, when John came rushing in. He had a friend with him and they went upstairs to his room, ignoring his aunt's request to join in for tea.
Then this "friend" heard a beautiful voice from upstairs singing. After a while they came downstairs and left straight away. At that moment he could have a good look at John's friend's face. The young man (later) turned out to be Paul MacCartney ... 1957 it was. Days long gone ...

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: January 1, 2022 23:59

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Hairball
And plenty more, including this nice little ditty written by Paul

I hadn't heard "Goodbyez" before. I liked it quite a bit. Thanks for sharing it.

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: January 2, 2022 02:00

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jahisnotdead
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Hairball
And plenty more, including this nice little ditty written by Paul

I hadn't heard "Goodbyez" before. I liked it quite a bit. Thanks for sharing it.

thumbs up

Goodbye

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Beatles vs Stones - and other Beatles stuff
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: January 2, 2022 03:23




OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: January 5, 2022 19:12


Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: January 5, 2022 20:03

Excellent news.thumbs up

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: MKjan ()
Date: January 5, 2022 20:10

The brainwashing continues.....

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 5, 2022 20:13

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MKjan
The brainwashing continues.....

what a curious comment.

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: January 5, 2022 20:30



From [www.TheBeatles.com] :

"The Beatles’ unforgettable concert on the rooftop of Apple Corps’ Savile Row headquarters on January 30, 1969, will debut as a 60-minute feature at an Exclusive IMAX® Event Screening and Filmmaker Q&A on January 30, 2022.

To celebrate the anniversary of the landmark performance, select IMAX® theaters will host the screenings with a filmmaker Q&A and give away exclusive mini-posters. The Q&A will be broadcast via satellite simultaneously to all connected IMAX locations. 'I’m thrilled that the rooftop concert from ‘The Beatles: Get Back’ is going to be experienced in IMAX, on that huge screen,' says director/producer Peter Jackson. 'It’s The Beatles’ last concert, and it’s the absolute perfect way to see and hear it'. 'Ever since Peter Jackson’s beautiful and illuminating docuseries debuted, we’ve heard non-stop from fans who want to experience its unforgettable rooftop performance in IMAX,' says Megan Colligan, president of IMAX Entertainment. 'We are so excited to partner with Disney to bring ‘Get Back’ to an entirely new stage and give Beatles fans everywhere a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to watch and hear their heroes in the unrivalled sight and sound of IMAX.'

The concert, which features in its entirety in Peter Jackson’s original docuseries 'The Beatles: Get Back,' will be optimized for IMAX screens, digitally remastered into the image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience® with proprietary IMAX DMR® (Digital Remastering) technology. Tickets for the Exclusive IMAX Event Screening and Filmmaker Q&A on January 30, 2022, are currently on sale at: tickets.imax.com.

A global theatrical engagement of the 60-minute feature, 'The Beatles: Get Back–The Rooftop Concert,' will then run February 11-13, 2022. The complete docuseries, 'The Beatles: Get Back,' will also be available on Blu-ray and DVD in the U.S. on February 8, 2022."




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2022-01-05 20:40 by Irix.

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: January 5, 2022 21:22

Cool !

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: January 5, 2022 21:38

haven't been to an iMax in years, this looks like a good reason to go!

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: DEmerson ()
Date: January 5, 2022 21:45

Having (like many here I'm guessing) subscribed to Disney+ for a month, just to watch the 8 hours of Get Back, I have to say - the Rooftop show is thrilling!
I found parts of the entire thing leading up to it to drag at times (how many times can you see them rehearse I've Got a Feeling?), but damn if at the end of it all they don't pull off one of the most exciting moments in rock and roll history! Guessing for real Beatles nuts. seeing it in Imax will be great.

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: coffeepotman ()
Date: January 5, 2022 21:52

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treaclefingers
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MKjan
The brainwashing continues.....

what a curious comment.


Nothing surprises me on this board

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 5, 2022 22:27

.... the sheep run again ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: January 5, 2022 22:46

Really, let's face it, all we ever wanted was this. Think Disney doesn't know it?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-01-05 23:19 by frankotero.

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 5, 2022 23:31

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frankotero
Really, let's face it, all we ever wanted was this. Think Disney doesn't know it?

Well I actually liked the stuff before it. It gave the show great context as well.

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: January 6, 2022 00:07

Long live the Beatles

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: January 6, 2022 01:35

Beatles forever .....................

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Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 6, 2022 01:38

Mop Tops for president ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: January 6, 2022 01:45

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Rockman
Mop Tops for president ....

Neither of the two living Beatles qualify to be president as they, unlike Obama, were born outside of the USA.

However, either of the sadly deceased members, regardless of their place of birth, would make a better job of running most countries than any recent incumbents.

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50+ Years a Fan

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 6, 2022 01:48

.... I meant Mexico



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: January 6, 2022 02:21

Seems to be playing at only a very limited number of theaters.

[tickets.imax.com]

Re: OT: Beatles Rooftop Show To Be Screened In IMAX Theaters Jan. 30
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 6, 2022 18:31

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terraplane
Long live the Beatles

Perhaps more accurately...

(not) Long Live(d) the Beatles!

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