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Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: LQ1977 ()
Date: February 19, 2014 20:18

I love this song! And I love VL as well. smiling smiley

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Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Straycat13 ()
Date: February 20, 2014 07:42

Love the song and the video. Both beautiful.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: June 19, 2024 02:36

official lyric video



Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: June 19, 2024 12:52

Great song.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: June 19, 2024 17:49

A secret guilty pleasure of mine. Love it

Rod

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 20, 2024 08:17

It really is a fantastic song. Nothing on BRIDGES came close.

Laugh, I Nearly Died on BANG is excellent.

Great slide from Ronnie. Simply a great song.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Swayed1967 ()
Date: June 20, 2024 09:32

Both Out Of Tears and Laugh are well-crafted ballads, that’s for sure. I almost wanna cry when I hear them.

It’s disappointing when your favorite artist pours his heart out into a song – I mean it’s clear that Mick gave 150% for both Out Of Tears and Laugh – and yet the end result is a generic and underwhelming listening experience. Good songs that could’ve been written and performed by almost anyone. A far cry from songs like Brown Sugar and Gimme Shelter which they were born to write.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: June 20, 2024 10:26

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Swayed1967
Both Out Of Tears and Laugh are well-crafted ballads, that’s for sure. I almost wanna cry when I hear them.

It’s disappointing when your favorite artist pours his heart out into a song – I mean it’s clear that Mick gave 150% for both Out Of Tears and Laugh – and yet the end result is a generic and underwhelming listening experience. Good songs that could’ve been written and performed by almost anyone. A far cry from songs like Brown Sugar and Gimme Shelter which they were born to write.

Hmm... It is very frustrating that every Stones song is no "Gimme Shelter" or "Brown Sugar" in quality. Most of the artists unfortunately suffer from the same problem: the body of the work does not qualify with their peak work. Damn, most of Picasso's work do not qualify with "Guernica" or Leonardo's with "Mona Lisa".

grinning smiley

- Doxa

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Testify ()
Date: June 20, 2024 11:11

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Doxa
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Swayed1967
Both Out Of Tears and Laugh are well-crafted ballads, that’s for sure. I almost wanna cry when I hear them.

It’s disappointing when your favorite artist pours his heart out into a song – I mean it’s clear that Mick gave 150% for both Out Of Tears and Laugh – and yet the end result is a generic and underwhelming listening experience. Good songs that could’ve been written and performed by almost anyone. A far cry from songs like Brown Sugar and Gimme Shelter which they were born to write.

Hmm... It is very frustrating that every Stones song is no "Gimme Shelter" or "Brown Sugar" in quality. Most of the artists unfortunately suffer from the same problem: the body of the work does not qualify with their peak work. Damn, most of Picasso's work do not qualify with "Guernica" or Leonardo's with "Mona Lisa".

grinning smiley

- Doxa
thumbs upthumbs upsmiling bouncing smiley

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Swayed1967 ()
Date: June 20, 2024 11:14

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Doxa
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Swayed1967
Both Out Of Tears and Laugh are well-crafted ballads, that’s for sure. I almost wanna cry when I hear them.

It’s disappointing when your favorite artist pours his heart out into a song – I mean it’s clear that Mick gave 150% for both Out Of Tears and Laugh – and yet the end result is a generic and underwhelming listening experience. Good songs that could’ve been written and performed by almost anyone. A far cry from songs like Brown Sugar and Gimme Shelter which they were born to write.

Hmm... It is very frustrating that every Stones song is no "Gimme Shelter" or "Brown Sugar" in quality. Most of the artists unfortunately suffer from the same problem: the body of the work does not qualify with their peak work. Damn, most of Picasso's work do not qualify with "Guernica" or Leonardo's with "Mona Lisa".

grinning smiley

- Doxa

Certainly it’s unrealistic and unfair to expect them to keep producing masterpieces, I get that. But at the same time I have never been able to get excited over second-rate, ‘pretty good’ songs. I honestly don’t know how others are able to lavish praise on these songs when the drop-off in quality- from the sublime to the ‘pretty good’ - is so steep. It's been a free fall into an abyss of bad music since the 90s. I wish I felt differently. Maybe a hypnotist could give me a change of thoughts...

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: June 20, 2024 11:14

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Swayed1967

It’s disappointing when your favorite artist pours his heart out into a song – I mean it’s clear that Mick gave 150% for both Out Of Tears and Laugh

Remember Mick's a performer, that is an actor. Back in 93 he could sing the hertbroken man while, in real life, entertaining 12 simultaneous relationships with 22yo models!
The most interesting thing about OOT imo is the stunning guitar solo. Easily Ron's top 5 contribution on a Stones album.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: June 20, 2024 11:25

I listened the song via that new lyrics video - for the first time in years I believe. I was about to write something about it, but then I checked the back pages of this thread, and found out that there is nothing really add to what I already said 11 years ago (a great conversation there, by the way! Some of those voices are sadly now silenced). I have still pretty similar thoughts about the song, but I probably would not express them so harshly as I did then (getting older and milder I suppose...)

But the biggest - new - impression I had of the song was how much it reminded me of "Coming Down Again" - both piano-riff-based sloooooooow ballads that last/drag way too long... Theoretically nice attempts by them, but I am not sure if they really succeed in what they aim. Or probably one needs to have a certain mindset to 'get' them, and I mostly lack that.

But it is interesting to compare Mick's singing his hearts out here in the 90's into what he does in "Fast Talking, Slow Walking" a few years ago, and how much convincing he now sounds (me thinks). He has kicked the worst Peter Pan mannerisms out of himself...grinning smiley (this was a reference to my old post). The term 'matured up' does not really suit to him, but something like that ..

- Doxa



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-20 11:29 by Doxa.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: June 20, 2024 12:41

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Swayed1967
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Doxa
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Swayed1967
Both Out Of Tears and Laugh are well-crafted ballads, that’s for sure. I almost wanna cry when I hear them.

It’s disappointing when your favorite artist pours his heart out into a song – I mean it’s clear that Mick gave 150% for both Out Of Tears and Laugh – and yet the end result is a generic and underwhelming listening experience. Good songs that could’ve been written and performed by almost anyone. A far cry from songs like Brown Sugar and Gimme Shelter which they were born to write.

Hmm... It is very frustrating that every Stones song is no "Gimme Shelter" or "Brown Sugar" in quality. Most of the artists unfortunately suffer from the same problem: the body of the work does not qualify with their peak work. Damn, most of Picasso's work do not qualify with "Guernica" or Leonardo's with "Mona Lisa".

grinning smiley

- Doxa

Certainly it’s unrealistic and unfair to expect them to keep producing masterpieces, I get that. But at the same time I have never been able to get excited over second-rate, ‘pretty good’ songs. I honestly don’t know how others are able to lavish praise on these songs when the drop-off in quality- from the sublime to the ‘pretty good’ - is so steep. It's been a free fall into an abyss of bad music since the 90s. I wish I felt differently. Maybe a hypnotist could give me a change of thoughts...

I get what you say, and I to an extent share your account. I don't think The Stones have ever released 'bad music', but, of course, there is a clear drop-off in quality, and to me the period between VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG is still a kind of 'dead period' in their record history - it's still pretty hard for me to get really excited about (to me a new exciting era started with EXILE deluxe material, and has continued ever since, and I am a huge fan of BLUE & LONESOME and HACKNEY DIAMONDS). But still there are moments there, and altogether they still sound like no one else, and that alone means a lot to me. It is just their 'bigger than life' past that is their biggest enemy. No one can compete with that. The Stones at their 'worst' are still a fascinating and unique-sounding band. It is just human or mortal that they aren't so sublime all the time, and there are ups and downs in their incredible story. It is always fascinating to follow.

- Doxa



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-20 12:48 by Doxa.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 21, 2024 07:18

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Swayed1967
Both Out Of Tears and Laugh are well-crafted ballads, that’s for sure. I almost wanna cry when I hear them.

It’s disappointing when your favorite artist pours his heart out into a song – I mean it’s clear that Mick gave 150% for both Out Of Tears and Laugh – and yet the end result is a generic and underwhelming listening experience. Good songs that could’ve been written and performed by almost anyone. A far cry from songs like Brown Sugar and Gimme Shelter which they were born to write.

You're comparing the times. Out Of Tears and Laugh are when they were done. If they were done in 1969 and 1971 you'd be saying something different.

No one can give more than 100%.

Unless you're Mick Jagger in 1985.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: June 21, 2024 12:31

Out of tears IMO is a great song.Laugh is not in that category

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: SoulSurvivor1990 ()
Date: June 21, 2024 13:02

I've never liked this song. Maudlin, overwrought, and very generic. I wanna hear the Stones do a song like this like I wanna hear Barry Manilow do Jumping Jack Flash.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 21, 2024 19:48

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SoulSurvivor1990
I've never liked this song. Maudlin, overwrought, and very generic. I wanna hear the Stones do a song like this like I wanna hear Barry Manilow do Jumping Jack Flash.

Holy crap, yikes!

Ronnie's slide solo is fantastic, though.

Re: Track Talk: Out Of Tears
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: June 22, 2024 04:05

Great song. Instantly takes me back then.

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