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Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: July 22, 2013 02:14

I'm going to see a show of Dr. John wednesday and I am trying to find out if he has ever played with the stones in the past. From my own research, I've only gathered that he did some backing vocals on "Let it loose". Anything else that the good doctor has musically prescribed and administered to our stones?
Rock and roll,
Mops

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 22, 2013 02:29

Mick does some backup vocals on The Sun Moon & Herbs



ROCKMAN

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: SWAYZ ()
Date: July 22, 2013 04:38

He joined them onstage at the Aragon in CHicago '02 and wasnt allowed to sing, just play. Mick cut him off as he opened his mouth.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Jah Paul ()
Date: July 22, 2013 04:48

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SWAYZ
He joined them onstage at the Aragon in CHicago '02 and wasnt allowed to sing, just play. Mick cut him off as he opened his mouth.

"No hard feelings, Mac!"


Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: July 22, 2013 09:18

rollmops, hope you post about the show & let us know how it was smiling smiley

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 22, 2013 09:44

Just Wanna See His Face was inspired by the session Jagger did with Dr John on The Sun, Moon & Herbs.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 22, 2013 09:44

Oh, and Clapton plays on Sun, Moon & Herbs too. It's a bit of a sprawling album but has a great vibe.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Thrylan ()
Date: July 22, 2013 10:23

Ask him, I believe he claims to have performed in several capacities on Exile....he claims not only to sing on more than one track, but arranging back up vox on several tracks.....he was pissy.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: July 22, 2013 10:36

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Thrylan
Ask him

Good idea.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 22, 2013 11:40

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Thrylan
Ask him, I believe he claims to have performed in several capacities on Exile....he claims not only to sing on more than one track, but arranging back up vox on several tracks.....he was pissy.

The three songs after Happy on side 3 carry some of that Dr John voodoo/hoodoo jive vibe about them. I can well believe it.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: July 22, 2013 11:54

Dr John is fantastic, and I think Dancing With Mr D continues that voodoo stew, influenced by the good Dr.

Dr John, if you listen closely to him, has several distinct phases: you have the voodoo sounds of Gris Gris, Anutha Zone, Locked Down as one facet to his career. You also have the New Orleans bluesy sounds of Gumbo, New Orleans Dis Dat, Goin' Back to New Orleans, and the jazzier elements of Duke Elegant, In A Sentimental Mood, Mercernary. He's never remained in one musical bag, and should be cherished as a great musician. He also wrote, with Doc Pomus, a great track entitled There Is Always One More Time, which Johnny Adams, BB King, and Irma Thomas all covered.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: July 22, 2013 13:48

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tomcasagranda
Dr John is fantastic, and I think Dancing With Mr D continues that voodoo stew, influenced by the good Dr.

Yeah, if you wanne hear some fake voodoo, try Dancin with Mr. D.
After their great 4 albums GHS was still very nice and one of a kind. But the lyrics started to go down and getting phoney with tracks like Dancin . .

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: July 22, 2013 14:33

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swiss
rollmops, hope you post about the show & let us know how it was smiling smiley
I will. I' ve been listening to a lot of his music through "raspshody". I really like his early work and also his last one "Locked down".
Rock and roll,
Mops

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: July 22, 2013 14:34

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Silver Dagger
Just Wanna See His Face was inspired by the session Jagger did with Dr John on The Sun, Moon & Herbs.
That's really cool. Thank Silver.
Rock and roll,
Mops

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 22, 2013 14:38

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rollmops
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Silver Dagger
Just Wanna See His Face was inspired by the session Jagger did with Dr John on The Sun, Moon & Herbs.
That's really cool. Thank Silver.
Rock and roll,
Mops

If you want to hear a great Dr John album mops then try Gris Gris. That album was really influential with the hip London underground, a bit like The Band's first 2 albums in the late 60s. It's got a great spooked out vibe that reminds me a bit of the New Orleans and San Monique scenes in the Bond film Live & Let Die.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: July 22, 2013 15:35

Another beard!

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: July 22, 2013 16:21

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Koen
Another beard!

Yeah, we need to slide him on over to the bearded thread, Koen. I've always been a fan of Dr. John, love his vibe...even when I don't quite get it, his music is always interesting. I got Locked Down last year and it's steadily grown on me. Seeing him on the grammy's last February was a hoot, what a character.

Love The Birchmere rollmops, I wish I could go. Have fun!

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Des ()
Date: July 22, 2013 19:12

I got to see Dr. John as the musical director of the old Wolfman Jack TV show, lucky me booked tickets before I found out the musical guest was David Cassidy, got into one of those screaming teenybop crouds by mistake.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: July 22, 2013 19:47

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latebloomer
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Koen
Another beard!

Yeah, we need to slide him on over to the bearded thread, Koen. I've always been a fan of Dr. John, love his vibe...even when I don't quite get it, his music is always interesting. I got Locked Down last year and it's steadily grown on me. Seeing him on the grammy's last February was a hoot, what a character.

Love The Birchmere rollmops, I wish I could go. Have fun!
Thanks Latebloomer, I'm quite excited. A while ago during a video chasing spree on the Utube I caught one featuring Johnny Winter and Dr. John jamming during a TV program in the 70"s; it was @#$%& great.
Rock and roll,
mops

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: GOO ()
Date: July 22, 2013 19:54

The Sun Moon & Herbs

Studio album by Dr. John
Released August 31, 1971
Recorded Trident Studios, London
Genre New Orleans R&B, Psychedelic rock
Length 38:59
Label Atlantic K2400161
Producer Mac Rebennack, Charles Greene
Dr. John chronology
Remedies
(1970) The Sun Moon & Herbs
(1971) Dr. John's Gumbo
(1972)
Professional ratings
Review scores
Source Rating
Allmusic [1]
Rolling Stone (mixed)[2]
The Sun Moon & Herbs is a 1971 album by New Orleans R&B artist Dr. John, noted for its contributions from Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger, and other well-known musicians. It was originally intended to be a three-album set but was cut down to a single disc.[3] The album was described by Allmusic as "dark and swampy" and "best listened to on a hot, muggy night with the sound of thunder rumbling off in the distance like jungle drums".[1]
Track listing[edit]

All songs written and composed by Mac Rebennack except where noted.
Side one
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Black John the Conqueror" 6:20
2. "Where Ya at Mule" 4:56
3. "Craney Crow" 6:40
Side two
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Familiar Reality (Opening)" Rebennack, Jesse Hill 5:25
2. "Pots on Fiyo (Filé Gumbo) / Who I Got to Fall On (If the Pot Get Heavy)" 5:48
3. "Zu Zu Mamou" 7:57
4. "Familiar Reality (Reprise)" 1:53
Personnel[edit]

Dr. John - vocals, piano, organ, guitar, vibes & percussion
Eric Clapton - guitar
Ronnie Barron - keyboards
Graham Bond - alto saxophone
Tommy Ferrone - rhythm guitar
Steve York - bass
Jesse Boyce - bass
Carl Radle - bass
Walter Davis Jr. - piano
Jim Gordon - percussion, conga
John Boudreaux - drums
Vic Brox - pocket trumpet & organ
Ray Draper - tuba, percussion & background vocals
Wayne Jackson - trumpet, horn
Chris Mercer - saxophone
Jerry Jumonville - saxophone
James Mitchell - baritone saxophone
Ed Logan - tenor saxophone
Andrew Love - tenor saxophone
Bobby Keys - tenor saxophone
Jim Price - trumpet
Jack Hale - trombone
Kenneth Terroade - flute
Calvin "Fuzzy" Samuels - percussion
Freeman Brown - percussion
Fred Staehle - trap drums
Mick Jagger, Doris Troy, Shirley Goodman, Tami Lynn, P. P. Arnold, Bobby Whitlock - background vocals
References[edit]

^ a b Chrispell, James. "The Sun Moon & Herbs - Dr. John at Allmusic. Retrieved 10 March 2008.
^ Crouse, Tim (28 October 1971). "Dr. John: The Sun Moon & Herbs". Rolling Stone (Straight Arrow). ISSN 0035-791X. Retrieved 10 March 2008.
^ Dr John Album History

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: GOO ()
Date: July 22, 2013 19:55

Mick Jagger, Doris Troy, Shirley Goodman, Tami Lynn, P. P. Arnold, Bobby Whitlock - background vocals

Nice

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: GOO ()
Date: July 22, 2013 20:00

Always loved this LP
Jagger in audible but there I guess

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: July 22, 2013 20:58

Just listen to The Sun Moon & Herbs for the very first time. The Exile # "I just want..." comes to mind while earing some of those songs. I also thought of Tom Waits. Great record and thank you all for turning me on to it!
Rock and roll,
Mops

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: GOO ()
Date: July 23, 2013 05:38

It's is a great lp, wish he'd release outtakes

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: July 23, 2013 08:05

Dr. John's influence extended into the 1990s, when Beck, for the song Loser, sampled (the word "sampled" is a bit like walking into a convience store and "sampling" a bite out of a candy bar then walking out without paying) I Walk On Gilded Splinters by Johnny Jenkins





which is a 1970 cover (featuring Duane Allman on slide guitar!) of a 1968 song by Dr. John





The song was also covered by Paul Weller in 1995





Dr. John's well-known song Right Place, Wrong Time was covered in 1999 by the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion





But back to a Stones-related connection--wasn't Marsha Hunt involved with Mick Jagger at one point? In 1969, she also covered Gilded Splinters




Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: July 23, 2013 15:27

I'll always remember when in the early 70's I walked into a dark hippy apartement doing some smoke and the loud sound of Dr. Johns' Walk on giltered splinters filled the room.
Wow, never forgot about that . .



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Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 23, 2013 16:04

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GOO
Mick Jagger, Doris Troy, Shirley Goodman, Tami Lynn, P. P. Arnold, Bobby Whitlock - background vocals

Nice

And the good Dr brought Tami Lynn along to sing backing vocals on Exile. She is credited on the album.

Tami is best known for her Northern Soul hit I'm Gonna Run Away From You which was reissued in 1971.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-07-23 16:05 by Silver Dagger.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Tate ()
Date: July 23, 2013 17:56

I always thought Fingerprint File had a similar sound to Dr. John's psychadelic stuff of the same period, a la the above-posted Walk on Guilded Splinters, etc. I think Mick, anyway, was quite influenced by the New Orleans blues thing.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 23, 2013 18:22

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Tate
I always thought Fingerprint File had a similar sound to Dr. John's psychadelic stuff of the same period, a la the above-posted Walk on Guilded Splinters, etc. I think Mick, anyway, was quite influenced by the New Orleans blues thing.

He certainly was. The Meters was one of his favourite bands in the mid 70s and he brought them on the 1976 European tour. Another of his favourite bands at this time, although not from the Big Easy but certainly employing that NawLeans vibe, was Little Feat.

Re: Dr. John and the Rolling Stones?
Posted by: mrsoandso ()
Date: July 24, 2013 01:13

Does anyone know if the album Dr. John submitted to the Stones, "The Pornographic Blues," has ever been leaked. If so where can I find it? thanks.

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