Here's an idea: how about arenas with cheap tickets? For fvck's sake.
Do it for the kids you greedy bastards!

Careful with that, well thought out logic......you might get the iorr blade

I've watched Glastonbury for how many times I don't know!

First of all I must say it's one hell of a concert despite some minor hick ups.
Today when was watching it once again I suddenly got the feeling that they certainly should do more stadiums on this tour.

They certainly have the potential to rock a lot of big stadiums still!
I've moaned about the setlist lately and I still think they could change it a bit. But the thing is that the warhorses span over so many generations nowadays that one can't dismiss them.

In my humble opinion the Stones will knock any audience from their feet at any time!

So get back to the stadiums, you will certainly manage them more than well!

Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!

I don't think that stadiums are the answer to the phenomena you watched in Glastonbury. It's more about youth. That's the power engine in Glastonbury. Youth.

Watch the crowd in the Hyde Park videos, and between some excited individuals, you see a whole sea of mild interest.

If they can fill stadiums with younger generations, able to drive the band to a new level of performance, then it might work. Otherwise, it's the same old, same old.



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Right, Torres! Glastonbury was a special event. If you go back to the normal Stones audience from these days you'll get a lot of that mild interest again.

Glastonbury was filmed close up and the stage was quite small.

I can't imagine it was so great being at the back of a 100,000 crowd.

I hate the stadium gigs.

Stage to big, too much running around and Mick too exaggerated.

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GravityBoy
Glastonbury was filmed close up and the stage was quite small.

I can't imagine it was so great being at the back of a 100,000 crowd.

I hate the stadium gigs.

Stage to big, too much running around and Mick too exaggerated.

Jeroen

YES thats one of the issues on this tour get back to stadiums

Stadiums gives the option for general admission to the pitch and cheaper tickets which in turn means younger audience. This was evident at Hyde Park.

Dunno, HP1 was pretty cool too...at least from the front and certainly from the Stones' point of view. Looking back at the massive crowd was a lot more "exciting" than at the O2 where it felt a bit like being in a movie theater.

Anyway with no dates planned until the fall it looks like it's back to the Arena format for the next "leg" !

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Torres
I don't think that stadiums are the answer to the phenomena you watched in Glastonbury. It's more about youth. That's the power engine in Glastonbury. Youth.

Watch the crowd in the Hyde Park videos, and between some excited individuals, you see a whole sea of mild interest.

If they can fill stadiums with younger generations, able to drive the band to a new level of performance, then it might work. Otherwise, it's the same old, same old.

I don't really have the a problem with the same old, same old.

The same could be said of bacon sandwiches...and I certainly don't get fed up of them

The last stadium show I saw, there were a lot of empty seats in the upper deck. The show was still good & there were plenty of folks there but it was a little sad too. & they had Dave Matthews (yawn) open, who is a good draw here too. They probably should've got Pearl Jam.

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Torres
I don't think that stadiums are the answer to the phenomena you watched in Glastonbury. It's more about youth. That's the power engine in Glastonbury. Youth.

Watch the crowd in the Hyde Park videos, and between some excited individuals, you see a whole sea of mild interest.

If they can fill stadiums with younger generations, able to drive the band to a new level of performance, then it might work. Otherwise, it's the same old, same old.

I agree. When I see people at a Stones concert standing looking dumbfounded I want to reach through the screen and shake them back to life! Saw a lot of this watching the Hyde Park videos. That wasn't the case at Glastonbury.

Judging from many clips i have seen, not only at Glasto but also at Hyde Park the audience was much younger than any arena. As sjs said, stadiums mean cheaper tickets, younger crowd, more enthousiastic atmosphere. It's so obvious...

Honestly, i don't know whether the ticket prices for Hyde Park are considered as reasonable by the current UK measures. But all of us know that by these prices 130,000 tickets have been sold in minutes. I think the Stones should add up some big venues to their plan in Europe. Stadiums (i would say of 35,0000 - 50,000 capacity, mainly) and huge Parks, like Hyde Park, Letna Park in Prague, etc, for vast crowds. By reasonable prices, of course.

Even a financial point of view says "do some stadiums", i think... Yes, during the recent northamerican arena tour they had $ 4,860,855 as average gross per gig, but the average price per ticket was $ 345,4. The band just cannot charge these prices in Europe, espacially by the current financial conditions. So, they have the opportunity to gross (atleast in some places) more thanks to bigger crowds, not thanks to higher prices.

In addition, if the Stones do some stadium gigs, they'll have the capability of reducing the total number of the gigs. Which means more breaks and breaths between the shows, less "routine". At their age this factor, saving powers, is very important.

PS I don't think they necessarilly have to fill 100% every stadium, if the tour will finally include some of them. Recently Bruce Springsteen played in front of 41,579 people at Munich Olympiastadion and the funny thing is that the show have been reported as "sellout" on Billborad's Boxscore. The same happened with Depeche Mode at Stade De France: 62,000 tickets sold and "sell out". It seems like the financial retrenchments in Europe are "cuting out" even the capatity of the big stadiums...

Never thought I would change my mind on this but Glastonbury was a cold slap in the face for me. Time to get back to doing stadium shows.

You damn right...

And european young generation don't have money to fill stadiums...

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Torres
I don't think that stadiums are the answer to the phenomena you watched in Glastonbury. It's more about youth. That's the power engine in Glastonbury. Youth.

Watch the crowd in the Hyde Parkvideos, and between some excited individuals, you see a whole sea of mild interest.

If they can fill stadiums with younger generations, able to drive the band to a new level of performance, then it might work. Otherwise, it's the same old, same old.

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In my opinion there's a chance for cheap tix and a variety of the crowd from young to old.

What I meant in my first post was that the Stones don't need to scale down into small arenas musically or soundwise.
I think they can rock a stadium still despite their age!
There's not many bands that can do that like they do!

Been Stoned since 1964 and still am!

They are still the best stadium act.

Bad move. Small venue

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Never thought I would change my mind on this but Glastonbury was a cold slap in the face for me. Time to get back to doing stadium shows.

If every stadium show was on a small stage, filmed close up by the BBC and mixed by them I agree.

Otherwise you can keep it.

Someone already started a thread on this topic 3 days ago (see link below), also citing Glastonbury as the reason they should return to stadium tours. When it was winter, we longed for summer; now that it is summer, we wish again for winter. It seems there is always something we would rather have The Stones doing instead.

[www.iorr.org]

"When it was winter, we longed for summer; now that it is summer, we wish again for winter"

Good point, stonehearted, but the word "we" doesn't include anyone if us. Personally, i was prefering stadiums by far, all along...

No interest in stadium shows. Done to death and unless youre down front, theyre shite.

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No interest in stadium shows. Done to death and unless youre down front, theyre shite.

That's the key .......... down the front. And unless that's where you are, in my book - virtually ANY gig is shite !! there's a few exceptions to that obviously, but in most cases I find that there's just nothing quite like being close to the performers.

[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]

Stadiums are fine... if it means low prices for youngsters and no seating near the stage (which kills the atmosphere).

Hardly likely to happen though :-(

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Gazza
No interest in stadium shows. Done to death and unless youre down front, theyre shite.

+1.....stadium shows in general boring as hell

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Stadiums gives the option for general admission to the pitch and cheaper tickets which in turn means younger audience. This was evident at Hyde Park.

Lack of greed gives an even better option for cheaper tickets which results in younger audiences.

Arenas and clubs...elsewhere, the sound gets lost.

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Torres
I don't think that stadiums are the answer to the phenomena you watched in Glastonbury. It's more about youth. That's the power engine in Glastonbury. Youth.

Watch the crowd in the Hyde Park videos, and between some excited individuals, you see a whole sea of mild interest.

If they can fill stadiums with younger generations, able to drive the band to a new level of performance, then it might work. Otherwise, it's the same old, same old.

I think this "phenomenon" is clearly evidenced on the performances with Mayer/Clarke Jr. and Dave Grohl.

The best guitar playing of the evening because these younger guns kicked the old boys in the arse to up their game.

J

stadiums = NO!

although i know,i will never get tickets to see em so fookin close,,...

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