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michel
hard to understand this, I think short and curlies is really great, pure stones, love that song
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DandelionPowderman
Luxury, IYCRM, IORR and FF are great songs. IYRWBMF has grown on me. The rest is so so to poor, imo.
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DandelionPowderman
...The rest is so so to poor, imo.
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...The rest is so so to poor, imo.
yeah iyo fortunately.
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sonomastone
Short and curlies is definitely a low. First time I ever wanted to turn off a stones song mid way through first listen.
Solid album. Major step down for GRNRBITW though.
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Edward Twining
IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL is perhaps the first Stones album where the stones-by-numbers approach first came into play on a large scale. In other words the Stones were recording typical sounding Stones songs (many of the rocking variety) but without any real sense of conviction or inspiration behind their creation. 'If You Can't Rock Me', the cover 'Ain't Too Proud To Beg', 'Dance Little Sister' and even the title track, for me are really short term pleasures, where if you scratch the surface, what lies beneath is pretty hollow. That's not to say they aren't enjoyable to a degree, because they are rather spightly, and in a sense, perhaps, more familiar stylistically to the average Stones fan, than some of those more meandering and melancholly offerings on, say, GOATS HEAD SOUP, for example, but unfortunately over repeated listens these songs don't stand up nearly so well.
Even the changes of pace songs like the ballads 'Till The Next Goodbye', 'If You Really Want To Be My Friend' and to a point 'Time Waits For No One', are somehow lacking, and, perhaps, also quite hollow . 'Fingerprint File' doesn't impress me either, as much as funky musical direction suggests it might. 'Time Waits For No One' however, works well in terms of it being Mick Taylor's swansong, in retrospect, Although it isn't somehow as well rounded in terms of its construction and production as the tracks on the Stones more higly regarded albums, musically Nicky Hopkins and Mick Taylor cook up something rather transcendant, and haunting. 'Luxury' is perhaps the other highlight for me. I just love Jagger's attempts at a Jamaican accent in this. In a sense 'Luxury' also acted as a signpost to the much better BLACK AND BLUE within its slight reggae influenced sound.
IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL for me is the weakest Stones album of the seventies. If GOATS HEAD SOUP hinted at times that the Stones were in decline, with IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL,the Stones decline is pretty full scale throughout. The Stones were very much on autopilot. I still enjoy listening to the album, however, although it's always a toss up for me, to which is the weaker album between this and EMOTIONAL RESCUE. I have come to the conclusion that i like EMOTIONAL RESCUE more simply because the Stones were trying to be a little different in tems of musical direction at times, which contributed to making it more interesting. Unfortunately, with IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL it was more of the same from the Stones, minus the magic ingredients.
I often wonder how much different the album would have sounded with Jimmy Miller behind the controls?
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doxa
IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL is perhaps the first Stones album where the stones-by-numbers approach first came into play on a large scale.
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DandelionPowderman
Dancing, Star Star and Silver Train were quite dominant tracks on GHS, and imo they are archetypical by numbers tracks.
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DandelionPowderman
Dancing, Star Star and Silver Train were quite dominant tracks on GHS, and imo they are archetypical by numbers tracks.
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DandelionPowderman
I think the rockers on GHS are just as forced-sounding, Edward.
RO, ADTL and RTJ, however, all have the energy and that little extra something which the rockers on GHS and IORR (apart from IYCRM and IORR) have, imo.
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GravityBoy
Too much analysis going on here. You had to be of a certain age I suspect. Not too old, not too young.
I was 15.
It was my second Stones album (after GHS).
It cemented my Stones fandom forever after.
It's special.
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DandelionPowderman
I think the rockers on GHS are just as forced-sounding, Edward.
RO, ADTL and RTJ, however, all have the energy and that little extra something which the rockers on GHS and IORR (apart from IYCRM and IORR) have, imo.
I would disagree with you slightly there, Dandelion. 'Silver Train' and 'Star Star' in my opinion are preferable to rockers like 'Dance Little Sister' and 'If You Can't Rock Me' which for me, come off a great deal more forced, but behind the bravado are less substantial. Of course, i'm not implying 'Silver Train' is one of the great Stones rockers, necessarily, either. 'Dancing With Mr D' is a bit of a dirge, admittedly, but i still prefer it, despite the fact it gives the clearest indication, up to that point that the Stones were not perhaps musically in the best of health. 'Star Star' stands on its own pretty much, i feel, within its Chuck Berry influenced sound and quirky lyrics. The overiding descriptive word i would use to describe the Stones decline on IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL is 'sustained', Dandelion, and 'sustained' is not a description you could point to on the Stones previous release, GOATS HEAD SOUP, in my opinion.
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I think the rockers on GHS are just as forced-sounding, Edward.
RO, ADTL and RTJ, however, all have the energy and that little extra something which the rockers on GHS and IORR (apart from IYCRM and IORR) have, imo.
I would disagree with you slightly there, Dandelion. 'Silver Train' and 'Star Star' in my opinion are preferable to rockers like 'Dance Little Sister' and 'If You Can't Rock Me' which for me, come off a great deal more forced, but behind the bravado are less substantial. Of course, i'm not implying 'Silver Train' is one of the great Stones rockers, necessarily, either. 'Dancing With Mr D' is a bit of a dirge, admittedly, but i still prefer it, despite the fact it gives the clearest indication, up to that point that the Stones were not perhaps musically in the best of health. 'Star Star' stands on its own pretty much, i feel, within its Chuck Berry influenced sound and quirky lyrics. The overiding descriptive word i would use to describe the Stones decline on IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL is 'sustained', Dandelion, and 'sustained' is not a description you could point to on the Stones previous release, GOATS HEAD SOUP, in my opinion.
Both albums have poor production. However, I still think the rockers on GHS are just as "artificial" (that's the word I prefer) as those on IORR. None of the GHS sound real or convincing to me. That can be said about the rockers on IORR too, but the choruses (IORR) and the funkiness/groove (IYCRM), the caribbean flavour (Luxury) give them the edge, imo. Star Star is too "cartoon-ish" for me.
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I think the rockers on GHS are just as forced-sounding, Edward.
RO, ADTL and RTJ, however, all have the energy and that little extra something which the rockers on GHS and IORR (apart from IYCRM and IORR) have, imo.
I would disagree with you slightly there, Dandelion. 'Silver Train' and 'Star Star' in my opinion are preferable to rockers like 'Dance Little Sister' and 'If You Can't Rock Me' which for me, come off a great deal more forced, but behind the bravado are less substantial. Of course, i'm not implying 'Silver Train' is one of the great Stones rockers, necessarily, either. 'Dancing With Mr D' is a bit of a dirge, admittedly, but i still prefer it, despite the fact it gives the clearest indication, up to that point that the Stones were not perhaps musically in the best of health. 'Star Star' stands on its own pretty much, i feel, within its Chuck Berry influenced sound and quirky lyrics. The overiding descriptive word i would use to describe the Stones decline on IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL is 'sustained', Dandelion, and 'sustained' is not a description you could point to on the Stones previous release, GOATS HEAD SOUP, in my opinion.
Both albums have poor production. However, I still think the rockers on GHS are just as "artificial" (that's the word I prefer) as those on IORR. None of the GHS sound real or convincing to me. That can be said about the rockers on IORR too, but the choruses (IORR) and the funkiness/groove (IYCRM), the caribbean flavour (Luxury) give them the edge, imo. Star Star is too "cartoon-ish" for me.
Yes I agree but GHS has a keith track... And a darn good one...
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24FPS
The rotten icing on the cake was Love You Live. There was a big demand for a live album and what we got was the first incarnation of the Vegas Stones (excepting the El Mocambo Side).