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Doxa
Of the first paragraph: I disagree completely, and won't give a flying fvck if someone tries to convince me by some "objective" criteria that "He's not playing all that well". Go on and check Toto - this is The Stones to me, with its ups and downs, mistakes and all. It's the over-all impression which counts - and Taylor being the driving motor there - and it works.
Of the second paragraph: it's all nostalgia now, but within that the Taylor compotent gives us - or me - a needed refreshing element to the way too predictable package we've been treated decades now. That's enough for me for being excited. I've digging and celebrating the glory past by the same show and musical idea as long as I remember, so for me even a little move out of the box is a change for better. Not much, but enough to get this old fan excited. Yes, I will have a heart of full nostalgia and emotions when I will hear all those jumpingjackflashs, startmeups, satisfactions, tumblingdices, missyous, gimmeshelters etc. again in Hyde Park, but that kind of stuff does not inspire me to follow the tour behind the lap top, or to write about them. But this Taylor thing has a novelty factor, which I find stimulating.
- Doxa
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From today's Toronto Star
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For Gunther Guhbin, it was the ultimate buzz kill.
The father’s dream of seeing the Rolling Stones with his kids was dashed Thursday night when security at the Air Canada Centre turned him away from the concert. They say he was drunk, something he and his family vigorously deny.
Either way, the result is the same. When the price of tickets, drinks and a limousine is taken into account, it was a more than $1,700 blunder.
“I couldn’t believe it. I still can’t believe it,” Guhbin gasped Friday, after his daughter contacted the Star with their story. “I always wanted to take them to the Stones, and I didn’t think we’d ever get to do it,” he said. “I’m crushed.”
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Guhbin’s cautionary tale begins when he surprised his three kids with tickets to the June 6 Stones show at the ACC.
When time came for the concert, the gang of four hopped in a limo from Waterdown, near Hamilton, and headed for the big city. Guhbin, a 52-year-old lawn maintenance man, last saw the British Invasion sensations in 1982. Figuring Thursday’s Toronto show might be his last chance to see the aging band with his kids, Guhbin was bouncing with excitement, said daughter Jessica, 32.
“He was like a little kid,” she said.
The group was dropped off at a downtown bar for dinner. Jessica said she and her of-age brother had three drinks each, while her youngest brother had none. Guhbin said he had six or seven.
After at least two hours, the family made its way to the ACC. At the gate, a security guard told Guhbin he was too drunk and loud, and had “crazy eyes,” said Jessica. She said security took Guhbin and his 16-year-old son’s tickets away, and police asked them to leave.
“We weren’t drunk or nothing,” insisted Guhbin, describing how they had the awareness to call a lawyer, call the newspaper and go to two more bars after they left to buy drinks and keep the receipts as proof that weren’t too drunk to get served.
“If we were that loaded, we wouldn’t have been doing all that,” Guhbin said.
Bob Hunter, MLSE’s executive vice president of venues and entertainment, acknowledged a security guard’s judgment as to drunkenness is “subjective,” but said they cannot let “overly intoxicated” ticket holders into the arena for safety reasons. He added that MLSE doesn’t want to lose its liquor licence.
“Are we overly diligent? Yes, probably, but we have to be. We have 16,000 guests in here,” said Hunter.
When asked why Guhbin’s tickets were taken away, Hunter said it’s to stop those turned away from trying to get in at other gates. Hunter was aware of Guhbin’s incident before being contacted by the Star, and asserted the father was denied entry for good reason.
“This guy stood out through thousands of people,” said Hunter. “He was beyond what we would allow.”
Guhbin was flabbergasted by that assessment, and said he was still “bummed out” by how his high hopes of a memorable night were suddenly deflated.
“My dad was in tears when we were leaving that place,” Jessica said.
I responded to this the other day but post was deleted... not sure why? Because I named the establishment?
Anyway we were in the same bar as this guy and his family pre-show in Toronto - they were at the bar with us - he didn't seem too pissed.. his daughter was dancing away, having a blast..
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From today's Toronto Star
[www.thestar.com]
For Gunther Guhbin, it was the ultimate buzz kill.
The father’s dream of seeing the Rolling Stones with his kids was dashed Thursday night when security at the Air Canada Centre turned him away from the concert. They say he was drunk, something he and his family vigorously deny.
Either way, the result is the same. When the price of tickets, drinks and a limousine is taken into account, it was a more than $1,700 blunder.
“I couldn’t believe it. I still can’t believe it,” Guhbin gasped Friday, after his daughter contacted the Star with their story. “I always wanted to take them to the Stones, and I didn’t think we’d ever get to do it,” he said. “I’m crushed.”
Photos View gallery
zoom
Guhbin’s cautionary tale begins when he surprised his three kids with tickets to the June 6 Stones show at the ACC.
When time came for the concert, the gang of four hopped in a limo from Waterdown, near Hamilton, and headed for the big city. Guhbin, a 52-year-old lawn maintenance man, last saw the British Invasion sensations in 1982. Figuring Thursday’s Toronto show might be his last chance to see the aging band with his kids, Guhbin was bouncing with excitement, said daughter Jessica, 32.
“He was like a little kid,” she said.
The group was dropped off at a downtown bar for dinner. Jessica said she and her of-age brother had three drinks each, while her youngest brother had none. Guhbin said he had six or seven.
After at least two hours, the family made its way to the ACC. At the gate, a security guard told Guhbin he was too drunk and loud, and had “crazy eyes,” said Jessica. She said security took Guhbin and his 16-year-old son’s tickets away, and police asked them to leave.
“We weren’t drunk or nothing,” insisted Guhbin, describing how they had the awareness to call a lawyer, call the newspaper and go to two more bars after they left to buy drinks and keep the receipts as proof that weren’t too drunk to get served.
“If we were that loaded, we wouldn’t have been doing all that,” Guhbin said.
Bob Hunter, MLSE’s executive vice president of venues and entertainment, acknowledged a security guard’s judgment as to drunkenness is “subjective,” but said they cannot let “overly intoxicated” ticket holders into the arena for safety reasons. He added that MLSE doesn’t want to lose its liquor licence.
“Are we overly diligent? Yes, probably, but we have to be. We have 16,000 guests in here,” said Hunter.
When asked why Guhbin’s tickets were taken away, Hunter said it’s to stop those turned away from trying to get in at other gates. Hunter was aware of Guhbin’s incident before being contacted by the Star, and asserted the father was denied entry for good reason.
“This guy stood out through thousands of people,” said Hunter. “He was beyond what we would allow.”
Guhbin was flabbergasted by that assessment, and said he was still “bummed out” by how his high hopes of a memorable night were suddenly deflated.
“My dad was in tears when we were leaving that place,” Jessica said.
I responded to this the other day but post was deleted... not sure why? Because I named the establishment?
Anyway we were in the same bar as this guy and his family pre-show in Toronto - they were at the bar with us - he didn't seem too pissed.. his daughter was dancing away, having a blast..
I honestly feel bad for him, but what a dufus. I had 3 martini's before the show and had a nice buzz but I wasn't going to drink another 3 or 4. I saved that for after the show.
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who is 'doxa?'
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kleermaker
Btw: Phillip, what are the results of your check on my recent posts regarding mixing up facts and opinions?
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The last true Stones concert (not a show) took place in October 1973.
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Btw: Phillip, what are the results of your check on my recent posts regarding mixing up facts and opinions?
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The last true Stones concert (not a show) took place in October 1973.
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pinkfloydthebarber
who is 'doxa?'
Lived under a stone for quite a long time?
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who is 'doxa?'
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who is 'doxa?'
A Taylorite without mixed emotions.
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who is 'doxa?'
A Taylorite without mixed emotions.
He likes some of the Ron Wood era.
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who is 'doxa?'
A Taylorite without mixed emotions.
He likes some of the Ron Wood era.
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who is 'doxa?'
A Taylorite without mixed emotions.
He likes some of the Ron Wood era.
So do I.
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who is 'doxa?'
A Taylorite without mixed emotions.
He likes some of the Ron Wood era.
So do I.
That's not allowed!
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I like hey negrita.
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I like hey negrita.
Me too.
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I like hey negrita.
Me too.
I prefer Hot Stuff.
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who is 'doxa?'
A Taylorite without mixed emotions.
He likes some of the Ron Wood era.
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I like hey negrita.
Me too.
I prefer Hot Stuff.
Joke track.
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who is 'doxa?'
A Taylorite without mixed emotions.
He likes some of the Ron Wood era.
Some of the Ron Wood era?
Damn, all of it (like Brian Jones era as well)! But I am not so keen on the Chuck Leavell Era...
But but... when the old-school Taylorites starts to call me a Taylorite, it makes me wonder have I went too far lately...
- Doxa
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I find that this clip sounds a lot better
Oh, what a treasure, sonically and visually!
Indeed! Really smoking.....thanks for posting that clip
Listen at 1:19. It makes no sense. Out of time and random notes that are out of key. WTF happened to this guy. He has totally lost it.
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jasona93
lol at the 15 seconds you didn't like where you think MT went off the rails, then he got right back to where you'd expect. it's been said a few pages ago, but this band can't win with nitpicking like that. 12 minute song and people are all 'nearly 70 year old guy didn't play 15 seconds of it perfect and it didn't fit my ears'. just enjoy it man, it could be the last time.