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I dont want to debate this with you, nothing is going to change from it. If you dont like my posts/opinions then please ignore them. No good will come from this back and forth. Let just put it on ignore.

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Doxa
And to continue the metaphor, if your lover cheats you constantly, is it right that you let her/him to hear about it? You are still together, right? The lover seemingly enjoys your company and you hers/his - you are not to be separated easily - so there is a room for some criticism.

But honestly, sometimes I feel like the lover happens to be a prostitute, and the love is not mutual. He or she will be there as long as you have the money...

- Doxa

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Or an even better idea.... how about not take it all so seriously? How about play the field? How about like a lot of bands and never over analyze any of them? Never pull out the micorscope and over analyze evey single thing that is said and done. Then maybe one will not start being crazy and inventing issues and problems which are simply in one's imagination.

This is to say: don't be a hardcore fan. Forget the passion and things like that involved. Let us all be "casual" fans! (there was a great post making the same point in that new comer's thread, reading the moral of BV's advices).

Actually I am into that: being a hardcore fan is not healthy (I wish someone has said me that convincingly back at the day), but the plus side is that it has bring me lots of passionate feelings and moments, so, in the end, I won't complain! But the fact is also that I have so much useless Stones trivia in my mind, I could trade off any day. Writing that crap here, with other Stones nerds, is therapetic for me I guess...

One does not have to be hardcore ( and seemingly constantly unhappy and complaining ) to feel the passion and things like that which are involved with the music. When I read a lot of the posts of so called hardcore (and supoosedly)Stones fans (although they admit hating everything The Stones have created since 1981 or 1971 or 1968) I dont see in them very many who appear to be happy about the thing they are hardcore about. That is self inflicted misery.

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Or an even better idea.... how about not take it all so seriously? How about play the field? How about like a lot of bands and never over analyze any of them? Never pull out the micorscope and over analyze evey single thing that is said and done. Then maybe one will not start being crazy and inventing issues and problems which are simply in one's imagination.

This is to say: don't be a hardcore fan. Forget the passion and things like that involved. Let us all be "casual" fans! (there was a great post making the same point in that new comer's thread, reading the moral of BV's advices).

Actually I am into that: being a hardcore fan is not healthy (I wish someone has said me that convincingly back at the day), but the plus side is that it has bring me lots of passionate feelings and moments, so, in the end, I won't complain! But the fact is also that I have so much useless Stones trivia in my mind, I could trade off any day. Writing that crap here, with other Stones nerds, is therapetic for me I guess...

One does not have to be hardcore ( and seemingly constantly unhappy and complaining ) to feel the passion and things like that which are involved with the music. When I read a lot of the posts of so called hardcore (and supoosedly)Stones fans (although they admit hating everything The Stones have created since 1981 or 1971 or 1968) I dont see in them very many who appear to be happy about the thing they are hardcore about. That is self inflicted misery.

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And to continue the metaphor, if your lover cheats you constantly, is it right that you let her/him to hear about it? You are still together, right? The lover seemingly enjoys your company and you hers/his - you are not to be separated easily - so there is a room for some criticism.

But honestly, sometimes I feel like the lover happens to be a prostitute, and the love is not mutual. He or she will be there as long as you have the money...

- Doxa

The problem starts when you pay but you get nothing in return. That's when you know you are being royally ripped off.

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Or an even better idea.... how about not take it all so seriously? How about play the field? How about like a lot of bands and never over analyze any of them? Never pull out the micorscope and over analyze evey single thing that is said and done. Then maybe one will not start being crazy and inventing issues and problems which are simply in one's imagination.

This is to say: don't be a hardcore fan. Forget the passion and things like that involved. Let us all be "casual" fans! (there was a great post making the same point in that new comer's thread, reading the moral of BV's advices).

Actually I am into that: being a hardcore fan is not healthy (I wish someone has said me that convincingly back at the day), but the plus side is that it has bring me lots of passionate feelings and moments, so, in the end, I won't complain! But the fact is also that I have so much useless Stones trivia in my mind, I could trade off any day. Writing that crap here, with other Stones nerds, is therapetic for me I guess...

One does not have to be hardcore ( and seemingly constantly unhappy and complaining ) to feel the passion and things like that which are involved with the music. When I read a lot of the posts of so called hardcore (and supoosedly)Stones fans (although they admit hating everything The Stones have created since 1981 or 1971 or 1968) I dont see in them very many who appear to be happy about the thing they are hardcore about. That is self inflicted misery.

You seem to worry a way to much about the happiness of the other fellow fans. I think you are the one taking this all too seriously, and not see the funniness in all this. To me you are not able to deal with differing opinions, or if one is not digging the band the way you do. Relax, man! It is just music, and people sharing their personal feelings about it. It all comes from a passion and deep affection to this band.

- Doxa

Lots of projecting in your post. The things you try to project about me, seem more about you. You blather on (endlessly) about how proud you are to so hardcore and how serious you are, but then say I take it too serious? Are you serious?

And the reaction you seem to always have/give to anyone with a differing opinion indicates that you are the one who does not like to deal with anyone who disagrees with you point of view.

Hah, projecting indeed...><

Never thought there is anything to "proud" to be a hardcore fan - more like a destiny or even burden sometimes... And pretending to be "serious"? Well, I have a natural habit of putting my thoughts in words, but as far as my stuff here go, that's not anything serious. It's all fun for me, which I do in my spare time, while I want to take a little break from real job (which is also mostly writing as well, but actually way too 'serious'). Like I've said many times: I write here as long as it is fun to me. If you see me writing, that means I am having a good time and enjoying myself. And if you see me having gone, that means I lost that feeling.

Of that "reaction I also have to anyone with a different opinion", well, that's your interpretation and you are entitled to it. I don't try to refute that but I hope my "work" here does the talking for me. I love differing opinions - without them the discussion would be pointless and boring - and sometimes some debates are quite heated ones, but usually the heater - more substance - it gets, the more I like, if and only the people try to be civil to each other. I usually ignore the name-calling, bullying and other idiocy sometimes goin on here. I also know that sometimes the way I use words might hurt someone by being provocative or something, but that is not intentional. It all is done in a good intent to carry on the conversation, that of sharing thoughts. And there are people n this board I have discussed for ages here, and they "know" me, and I "know" them, so I might take more freedoms with them.

My only wish and a kind of principle here - as well as life in general - is that the people are entitled to think whatever they like and free to express that in words, unless they are not hurting the other people. Let the opinions "fight", not the persons! More tolerance and good manners! In the end, this a discussion site for fans of one rock and roll band, but most of us are rather mature people, the avarage being somewhere between forty and fifty I guess. Taking that, is it really so hard for us to talk adult-like, despite the fact that we once felt love with this band with our teenage passion?

Okay, lastly, you give your interpretation of my "reaction", I'll give you mine of yours. What I now expect you to do is to claim that "I didn't start anything - I just reacted". Well, that's the point you have made in several threads where you get yourself into a fight. Maybe you see that that way, but to me eyes in most cases you are there to cause that rift and unneeded tension (which in many cases goes ugly), but you don't seem to take any responsibilies of your own action. But that's just my interpretation.

If I had the wit and writing skills of StonesTod (RIP) I would have made this post by a one-liner, but since I'm Doxa, and a victim of my old habits, I did this way...

- Doxa

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No shit

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Or an even better idea.... how about not take it all so seriously? How about play the field? How about like a lot of bands and never over analyze any of them? Never pull out the micorscope and over analyze evey single thing that is said and done. Then maybe one will not start being crazy and inventing issues and problems which are simply in one's imagination.

This is to say: don't be a hardcore fan. Forget the passion and things like that involved. Let us all be "casual" fans! (there was a great post making the same point in that new comer's thread, reading the moral of BV's advices).

Actually I am into that: being a hardcore fan is not healthy (I wish someone has said me that convincingly back at the day), but the plus side is that it has bring me lots of passionate feelings and moments, so, in the end, I won't complain! But the fact is also that I have so much useless Stones trivia in my mind, I could trade off any day. Writing that crap here, with other Stones nerds, is therapetic for me I guess...

One does not have to be hardcore ( and seemingly constantly unhappy and complaining ) to feel the passion and things like that which are involved with the music. When I read a lot of the posts of so called hardcore (and supoosedly)Stones fans (although they admit hating everything The Stones have created since 1981 or 1971 or 1968) I dont see in them very many who appear to be happy about the thing they are hardcore about. That is self inflicted misery.

You seem to worry a way to much about the happiness of the other fellow fans. I think you are the one taking this all too seriously, and not see the funniness in all this. To me you are not able to deal with differing opinions, or if one is not digging the band the way you do. Relax, man! It is just music, and people sharing their personal feelings about it. It all comes from a passion and deep affection to this band.

- Doxa

Lots of projecting in your post. The things you try to project about me, seem more about you. You blather on (endlessly) about how proud you are to so hardcore and how serious you are, but then say I take it too serious? Are you serious?

And the reaction you seem to always have/give to anyone with a differing opinion indicates that you are the one who does not like to deal with anyone who disagrees with you point of view.

Hah, projecting indeed...><

Never thought there is anything to "proud" to be a hardcore fan - more like a destiny or even burden sometimes... And pretending to be "serious"? Well, I have a natural habit of putting my thoughts in words, but as far as my stuff here go, that's not anything serious. It's all fun for me, which I do in my spare time, while I want to take a little break from real job (which is also mostly writing as well, but actually way too 'serious'). Like I've said many times: I write here as long as it is fun to me. If you see me writing, that means I am having a good time and enjoying myself. And if you see me having gone, that means I lost that feeling.

Of that "reaction I also have to anyone with a different opinion", well, that's your interpretation and you are entitled to it. I don't try to refute that but I hope my "work" here does the talking for me. I love differing opinions - without them the discussion would be pointless and boring - and sometimes some debates are quite heated ones, but usually the heater - more substance - it gets, the more I like, if and only the people try to be civil to each other. I usually ignore the name-calling, bullying and other idiocy sometimes goin on here. I also know that sometimes the way I use words might hurt someone by being provocative or something, but that is not intentional. It all is done in a good intent to carry on the conversation, that of sharing thoughts. And there are people n this board I have discussed for ages here, and they "know" me, and I "know" them, so I might take more freedoms with them.

My only wish and a kind of principle here - as well as life in general - is that the people are entitled to think whatever they like and free to express that in words, unless they are not hurting the other people. Let the opinions "fight", not the persons! More tolerance and good manners! In the end, this a discussion site for fans of one rock and roll band, but most of us are rather mature people, the avarage being somewhere between forty and fifty I guess. Taking that, is it really so hard for us to talk adult-like, despite the fact that we once felt love with this band with our teenage passion?

Okay, lastly, you give your interpretation of my "reaction", I'll give you mine of yours. What I now expect you to do is to claim that "I didn't start anything - I just reacted". Well, that's the point you have made in several threads where you get yourself into a fight. Maybe you see that that way, but to me eyes in most cases you are there to cause that rift and unneeded tension (which in many cases goes ugly), but you don't seem to take any responsibilies of your own action. But that's just my interpretation.

If I had the wit and writing skills of StonesTod (RIP) I would have made this post by a one-liner, but since I'm Doxa, and a victim of my old habits, I did this way...

- Doxa

Totally agree with you and always enjoy your posts, Doxa. Ahoi

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Mick Taylor gets mad if you tell him what to do or what not to do on stage....

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You are too good for that gimmick.

And please, have more volume in the mix during Satisfaction.

Tonight it looked you were nailing it, but it was just on the screen, we could not hear you.

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