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I didn't see any 1982 shows myself, but I'm willing to bet quite a lot of money on the 1989/90 shows being way more consistant and well-played than in 1982.
I saw them in 1982 (1x) and in 1990 (4x).
IMO from 1989 the Vegas era started and that's another (anyway great) story
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-10 13:37 by 1962.
i have trouble accepting the 75-76 live shows as having any part in a "golden age as a live band"
please refer to love you live for reference.
lol well put.
1977 wasn't too bad...
from 1966 through the 1970s each new Stones album and tour was an event you discussed with friends and was widely commented on in media. Same for Dylan and the Beatles while they were around. Rolling Stone magazine was an instigator but so were the "rock" critics for major city newspapers. Time and Newsweek would have a few pages of coverage such as "What is Bob Dylan's message in his new album John Wesley Harding"
Kind of ridiculous when you look back on it
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-10 21:47 by triceratops.
Twilight zone wasn't bad either
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Golden era
Posted by:
liddas
()
Date: May 10, 2013 13:09
There is a sort of general consensus that MT's years with the Stones were the golden era of the band.
If you ask me, if there ever was a golden era, it started with Satisfaction and ended with the death of Brian Jones. Actually the Hyde park concert sealed the end of the Golden era and the beginning of the Vegas Era.
This has nothing to do with the musical consistency of the band. All the records from Fingers up to Undercover are rock masterpieces. All the tours from 69 to 82 were amazing. Some prefer the output of the first half of the 70's others what came after.
But those early years were something else. They set the stones apart from all the other supergroups of the 70s. They provided the back bone of the whole career of the group.
Some days ago I saw Hurricane and, in visuals, this was even more evident.
In the early years the stones were active part of the history of a whole country (and more). From Hyde Park onward the story of the band is relevant only in the history of entertainment.
C
If you ask me, if there ever was a golden era, it started with Satisfaction and ended with the death of Brian Jones. Actually the Hyde park concert sealed the end of the Golden era and the beginning of the Vegas Era.
This has nothing to do with the musical consistency of the band. All the records from Fingers up to Undercover are rock masterpieces. All the tours from 69 to 82 were amazing. Some prefer the output of the first half of the 70's others what came after.
But those early years were something else. They set the stones apart from all the other supergroups of the 70s. They provided the back bone of the whole career of the group.
Some days ago I saw Hurricane and, in visuals, this was even more evident.
In the early years the stones were active part of the history of a whole country (and more). From Hyde Park onward the story of the band is relevant only in the history of entertainment.
C
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
sonomastone
()
Date: May 10, 2013 13:11
I don't think this is a general consenus. The consensus is that the golden era is beggars banquet-let it bleed-sticky fingers-exile on main street.
mick taylor played an influential role on half those albums. i think of this as the "keith" era actually since he completely dominated the sound, vision and songwriting during this period. (and yes i know he didn't write sway or moonlight mile)
i think there *is* a consensus that the taylor years, 69-73, is the golden era for the stones as a live band.
mick taylor played an influential role on half those albums. i think of this as the "keith" era actually since he completely dominated the sound, vision and songwriting during this period. (and yes i know he didn't write sway or moonlight mile)
i think there *is* a consensus that the taylor years, 69-73, is the golden era for the stones as a live band.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
roby
()
Date: May 10, 2013 13:13
Albums = 1965 - 1972.
Taylor years, 69-73 = Gold era for the stones as a live band.
Taylor years, 69-73 = Gold era for the stones as a live band.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
GravityBoy
()
Date: May 10, 2013 13:14
This argument has some merit.
The Stones were a social phenomenon in the mid 60s.
More than just pop/rock band.
Would you let your daughter go with a Rolling Stone.
The Beatles were nice and the Stones were dirty and nasty.
Definitely a part of British social history.
I think the OP is alluding to the whole Rolling Stones package.
The music was great as well.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-10 13:16 by GravityBoy.
The Stones were a social phenomenon in the mid 60s.
More than just pop/rock band.
Would you let your daughter go with a Rolling Stone.
The Beatles were nice and the Stones were dirty and nasty.
Definitely a part of British social history.
I think the OP is alluding to the whole Rolling Stones package.
The music was great as well.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-10 13:16 by GravityBoy.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
1962
()
Date: May 10, 2013 13:28
Golden era musically: 1962-1984
Golden era socially: 1964-1975
Golden era as a live band: 1962-1982
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Golden era socially: 1964-1975
Golden era as a live band: 1962-1982
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-10 13:31 by 1962.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: May 10, 2013 13:34
Quote
1962
Golden era musically: 1962-1984
Golden era socially: 1964-1975
Golden era as a live band: 1962-1982
I didn't see any 1982 shows myself, but I'm willing to bet quite a lot of money on the 1989/90 shows being way more consistant and well-played than in 1982.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
1962
()
Date: May 10, 2013 13:37
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
1962
Golden era musically: 1962-1984
Golden era socially: 1964-1975
Golden era as a live band: 1962-1982
I didn't see any 1982 shows myself, but I'm willing to bet quite a lot of money on the 1989/90 shows being way more consistant and well-played than in 1982.
I saw them in 1982 (1x) and in 1990 (4x).
IMO from 1989 the Vegas era started and that's another (anyway great) story
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-10 13:37 by 1962.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
sonomastone
()
Date: May 10, 2013 13:45
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
1962
Golden era musically: 1962-1984
Golden era socially: 1964-1975
Golden era as a live band: 1962-1982
I didn't see any 1982 shows myself, but I'm willing to bet quite a lot of money on the 1989/90 shows being way more consistant and well-played than in 1982.
i have trouble accepting the 75-76 live shows as having any part in a "golden age as a live band"
please refer to love you live for reference.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
liddas
()
Date: May 10, 2013 14:09
Most of the posts above miss the point I was trying to make.
No argument will ever convince me that the 72/73 verion of the band was "musically" better (or worse) than the band that followed. Deep down it is only a matter of taste. I like this, you like that. Besides, the shows were always consistently great. Sold out venues and enthusiastic fans all the time.
In one way or the other, the band was always special. But in those first years, it was way more than special.
C
No argument will ever convince me that the 72/73 verion of the band was "musically" better (or worse) than the band that followed. Deep down it is only a matter of taste. I like this, you like that. Besides, the shows were always consistently great. Sold out venues and enthusiastic fans all the time.
In one way or the other, the band was always special. But in those first years, it was way more than special.
C
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
buttons67
()
Date: May 10, 2013 14:17
golden era 1964-72.
silver era 1973-83.
miss out dirtywork.
bronze era 1989-present day.
all 3 era,s important to the bands legacy.
silver era 1973-83.
miss out dirtywork.
bronze era 1989-present day.
all 3 era,s important to the bands legacy.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
sonomastone
()
Date: May 10, 2013 14:21
Quote
buttons67
golden era 1964-72.
silver era 1973-83.
miss out dirtywork.
bronze era 1989-present day.
all 3 era,s important to the bands legacy.
lol well put.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: May 10, 2013 16:24
Golden era studio: 1966 - 1973 (Aftermath to Goats Head Soup, what a run)
Golden era live: 1969 - 1973 (American Tour 1969 - European Tour 1973)
Silver era studio: 1974 - 1978: IORR to Some Girls
Silver era live: 1975 - 1978
Iron era studio: 1979 until now (except TY)
Iron era live: 1979 - 2011
Special era live: 2012 - 2013
Golden era live: 1969 - 1973 (American Tour 1969 - European Tour 1973)
Silver era studio: 1974 - 1978: IORR to Some Girls
Silver era live: 1975 - 1978
Iron era studio: 1979 until now (except TY)
Iron era live: 1979 - 2011
Special era live: 2012 - 2013
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: May 10, 2013 16:30
Quote
sonomastoneQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
1962
Golden era musically: 1962-1984
Golden era socially: 1964-1975
Golden era as a live band: 1962-1982
I didn't see any 1982 shows myself, but I'm willing to bet quite a lot of money on the 1989/90 shows being way more consistant and well-played than in 1982.
i have trouble accepting the 75-76 live shows as having any part in a "golden age as a live band"
please refer to love you live for reference.
1977 wasn't too bad...
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: May 10, 2013 16:30
Quote
kleermaker
Golden era studio: 1966 - 1973 (Aftermath to Goats Head Soup, what a run)
Golden era live: 1969 - 1973 (American Tour 1969 - European Tour 1973)
Silver era studio: 1974 - 1978: IORR to Some Girls
Silver era live: 1975 - 1978
Iron era studio: 1979 until now (except TY)
Iron era live: 1979 - 2011
Special era live: 2012 - 2013
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: May 10, 2013 16:58
Golden era 1962-present
Green era ($$$$$$ ticket prices) 2002 tour to present
Green era ($$$$$$ ticket prices) 2002 tour to present
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
Tuna44
()
Date: May 10, 2013 21:27
The Golden Era for me with the Stones would be from 'Get Your Ya-Ya's Out' through 'Some Girls'. Just some great music during this period.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
triceratops
()
Date: May 10, 2013 21:38
Quote
GravityBoy
This argument has some merit.
The Stones were a social phenomenon in the mid 60s.
More than just pop/rock band.
Would you let your daughter go with a Rolling Stone.
from 1966 through the 1970s each new Stones album and tour was an event you discussed with friends and was widely commented on in media. Same for Dylan and the Beatles while they were around. Rolling Stone magazine was an instigator but so were the "rock" critics for major city newspapers. Time and Newsweek would have a few pages of coverage such as "What is Bob Dylan's message in his new album John Wesley Harding"
Kind of ridiculous when you look back on it
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-10 21:47 by triceratops.
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
Havo
()
Date: May 10, 2013 21:45
For myself the golden era of the stones were 1964-1966!!!
Re: Golden era
Posted by:
sonomastone
()
Date: May 10, 2013 22:01
Quote
GravityBoy
Radar Love was great.
Twilight zone wasn't bad either
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