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After they blow the roof off the Staples center in LA with MT featured in an Exile mini-set remaining tickets for the remainder of the tour will sell promptly. In the end, every show will sell out.

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headly123
I paid $15 for front row seats from a scalper to see the Eagles one time. My friends thought was nuts . We were sitting around one night having some herbal refreshment and remembered that were playing so we just thought what the hell. Let's just go and get some seats and listen so some music and ended up front. Funny thing was when we were hanging out waiting for the opening act some guy starting talking to us. Just nice chit chat. Then he left and a few minutes later the lights went down and the opening act came on. WE were sitting there listening and I turned to my friends and said. Hey weren't we just talking to that guy ? Turns out it was Jimmy Buffett. Go figure. He gave us a nod and played a nice set. Anyway times have changed and the Stones haven't stopped screwing their fans for years now. This Forum is full of posts about people talking about ticket prices. Ten and fifteen years ago when they started their Vegas Stage act people bought into it because they thought this is it. The last tour. So they went along with it. Well now the economy sucks and the prices went up to see them and I don't know for sure that everyone is buying into one. They may fill the arenas but only with corporate and other people with various methods . Because I am not paying $185 to sit in the rafters. One that is BS and two I am afraid of heights.

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I know that there have been many posts on ticket sales and it is no secret that there are plenty of the high priced tickets available. I was holding out hoping to catch a show at MSG in the fall, however now I am starting to think that the Fall Tour will not happen. If ticket sales remain sluggish and AEG takes a bath I doubt they will get another promoter to put on a Fall leg of the tour without decreasing their asking price and frankly I don't see that happening. Anyone have thoughts on the Fall now with these ticket sales? Do I just go to Philly?

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I paid $15 for front row seats from a scalper to see the Eagles one time. My friends thought was nuts . We were sitting around one night having some herbal refreshment and remembered that were playing so we just thought what the hell. Let's just go and get some seats and listen so some music and ended up front. Funny thing was when we were hanging out waiting for the opening act some guy starting talking to us. Just nice chit chat. Then he left and a few minutes later the lights went down and the opening act came on. WE were sitting there listening and I turned to my friends and said. Hey weren't we just talking to that guy ? Turns out it was Jimmy Buffett. Go figure. He gave us a nod and played a nice set. Anyway times have changed and the Stones haven't stopped screwing their fans for years now. This Forum is full of posts about people talking about ticket prices. Ten and fifteen years ago when they started their Vegas Stage act people bought into it because they thought this is it. The last tour. So they went along with it. Well now the economy sucks and the prices went up to see them and I don't know for sure that everyone is buying into one. They may fill the arenas but only with corporate and other people with various methods . Because I am not paying $185 to sit in the rafters. One that is BS and two I am afraid of heights.

My post from another string. It looks like this is a good fit for my response....

With due respect all the posts seem to be on the demand side of the equation. I work for a publically traded company and all of our business is generated through a public RFP bidding process.

Many of our contracts are in excess of $50 million annually. Once we win an award there is usually a substantial startup cost for implementation. In many cases 10% to 20% of the first year gross. This doesn’t include a performance bond equal to one year of our cost of goods. Meaning what we would pay our sub-contractors.

If you plug those factors in what is obviously a first class run tour. I don't think the ticket prices are that far off the mark. You also have to factor in seats that don’t sell.

Multiplying the ticket cost by the number of seats and then dividing it by the band member is just stupid.

As I see it, the cat bird seat is having the ability of being over 50. Smoking dope all your life and bitching about ticket cost and corporate bonuses. When in actuality you haven’t a clue of economics and how the real world works.

If someone is offended they should stay home. Voice their opinion by not buying a seat rather than going on some diatribe when the only thing being accomplished is showing ignorance.

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I paid $15 for front row seats from a scalper to see the Eagles one time. My friends thought was nuts . We were sitting around one night having some herbal refreshment and remembered that were playing so we just thought what the hell. Let's just go and get some seats and listen so some music and ended up front. Funny thing was when we were hanging out waiting for the opening act some guy starting talking to us. Just nice chit chat. Then he left and a few minutes later the lights went down and the opening act came on. WE were sitting there listening and I turned to my friends and said. Hey weren't we just talking to that guy ? Turns out it was Jimmy Buffett. Go figure. He gave us a nod and played a nice set. Anyway times have changed and the Stones haven't stopped screwing their fans for years now. This Forum is full of posts about people talking about ticket prices. Ten and fifteen years ago when they started their Vegas Stage act people bought into it because they thought this is it. The last tour. So they went along with it. Well now the economy sucks and the prices went up to see them and I don't know for sure that everyone is buying into one. They may fill the arenas but only with corporate and other people with various methods . Because I am not paying $185 to sit in the rafters. One that is BS and two I am afraid of heights.

My post from another string. It looks like this is a good fit for my response....

With due respect all the posts seem to be on the demand side of the equation. I work for a publically traded company and all of our business is generated through a public RFP bidding process.

Many of our contracts are in excess of $50 million annually. Once we win an award there is usually a substantial startup cost for implementation. In many cases 10% to 20% of the first year gross. This doesn’t include a performance bond equal to one year of our cost of goods. Meaning what we would pay our sub-contractors.

If you plug those factors in what is obviously a first class run tour. I don't think the ticket prices are that far off the mark. You also have to factor in seats that don’t sell.

Multiplying the ticket cost by the number of seats and then dividing it by the band member is just stupid.

As I see it, the cat bird seat is having the ability of being over 50. Smoking dope all your life and bitching about ticket cost and corporate bonuses. When in actuality you haven’t a clue of economics and how the real world works.

If someone is offended they should stay home. Voice their opinion by not buying a seat rather than going on some diatribe when the only thing being accomplished is showing ignorance.

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GADAWG


"I work for a publically traded company and all of our business is generated through a public RFP bidding process. any of our contracts are in excess of $50 million annually. Once we win an award there is usually a substantial startup cost for implementation. In many cases 10% to 20% of the first year gross. This doesn’t include a performance bond equal to one year of our cost of goods. Meaning what we would pay our sub-contractors"

Sweet Jesus, that is the single douchiest thing I have ever seen on a site about a rock band

Now that's some mighty fine postin' there.
Big ups, James Kirk

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headly123
I paid $15 for front row seats from a scalper to see the Eagles one time. My friends thought was nuts . We were sitting around one night having some herbal refreshment and remembered that were playing so we just thought what the hell. Let's just go and get some seats and listen so some music and ended up front. Funny thing was when we were hanging out waiting for the opening act some guy starting talking to us. Just nice chit chat. Then he left and a few minutes later the lights went down and the opening act came on. WE were sitting there listening and I turned to my friends and said. Hey weren't we just talking to that guy ? Turns out it was Jimmy Buffett. Go figure. He gave us a nod and played a nice set. Anyway times have changed and the Stones haven't stopped screwing their fans for years now. This Forum is full of posts about people talking about ticket prices. Ten and fifteen years ago when they started their Vegas Stage act people bought into it because they thought this is it. The last tour. So they went along with it. Well now the economy sucks and the prices went up to see them and I don't know for sure that everyone is buying into one. They may fill the arenas but only with corporate and other people with various methods . Because I am not paying $185 to sit in the rafters. One that is BS and two I am afraid of heights.

My post from another string. It looks like this is a good fit for my response....

With due respect all the posts seem to be on the demand side of the equation. I work for a publically traded company and all of our business is generated through a public RFP bidding process.

Many of our contracts are in excess of $50 million annually. Once we win an award there is usually a substantial startup cost for implementation. In many cases 10% to 20% of the first year gross. This doesn’t include a performance bond equal to one year of our cost of goods. Meaning what we would pay our sub-contractors.

If you plug those factors in what is obviously a first class run tour. I don't think the ticket prices are that far off the mark. You also have to factor in seats that don’t sell.

Multiplying the ticket cost by the number of seats and then dividing it by the band member is just stupid.

As I see it, the cat bird seat is having the ability of being over 50. Smoking dope all your life and bitching about ticket cost and corporate bonuses. When in actuality you haven’t a clue of economics and how the real world works.

If someone is offended they should stay home. Voice their opinion by not buying a seat rather than going on some diatribe when the only thing being accomplished is showing ignorance.

Spot on GaDawg, well said. Now be prepared to face the onslaught of the critics to your factual post. Job well done.

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Sorry but there was never any announcement or any indicative speculation about the fall tour in the US. BV speculated about it that things might happen. But I think for July 13th the Stones will call it quits. I also don't think of any European Dates.

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there are only a limited number of people who will pay $300 an hour for a rock band to pose and play 3 chords, no matter how legendary the group.

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bv
Why on earth would ticket sales have anything to do with their touring? Fact is AEG is a promoter who was overbidding everyone else. We will see tomorrow in LA and on Sunday in Oakland if AEG over-estimated the market.

The Stones have been playing stadiums with sectons not sold out in the past, no worries. They just perform. If it is 15,000 or 19,000 in the arena I don't care. They leave the sales to others. They are paid up-front, before they do play a single song or show. If they were in it for the money only, they would move into Vegas for a few years like Elton John and Celine Dion, with side trips to MSG for some East Coast income every now and then. But point is they love to be on stage. And they love to perform in front of YOU and ME! Not just to anyone... That is why they keep it going.

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Why on earth would ticket sales have anything to do with their touring? Fact is AEG is a promoter who was overbidding everyone else. We will see tomorrow in LA and on Sunday in Oakland if AEG over-estimated the market.

The Stones have been playing stadiums with sectons not sold out in the past, no worries. They just perform. If it is 15,000 or 19,000 in the arena I don't care. They leave the sales to others. They are paid up-front, before they do play a single song or show. If they were in it for the money only, they would move into Vegas for a few years like Elton John and Celine Dion, with side trips to MSG for some East Coast income every now and then. But point is they love to be on stage. And they love to perform in front of YOU and ME! Not just to anyone... That is why they keep it going.

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bv
Why on earth would ticket sales have anything to do with their touring? Fact is AEG is a promoter who was overbidding everyone else. We will see tomorrow in LA and on Sunday in Oakland if AEG over-estimated the market.

The Stones have been playing stadiums with sections not sold out in the past, no worries. They just perform. If it is 15,000 or 19,000 in the arena I don't care. They leave the sales to others. They are paid up-front, before they do play a single song or show. If they were in it for the money only, they would move into Vegas for a few years like Elton John and Celine Dion, with side trips to MSG for some East Coast income every now and then. But point is they love to be on stage. And they love to perform in front of YOU and ME! Not just to anyone... That is why they keep it going.

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Why on earth would ticket sales have anything to do with their touring? Fact is AEG is a promoter who was overbidding everyone else. We will see tomorrow in LA and on Sunday in Oakland if AEG over-estimated the market.

The Stones have been playing stadiums with sections not sold out in the past, no worries. They just perform. If it is 15,000 or 19,000 in the arena I don't care. They leave the sales to others. They are paid up-front, before they do play a single song or show. If they were in it for the money only, they would move into Vegas for a few years like Elton John and Celine Dion, with side trips to MSG for some East Coast income every now and then. But point is they love to be on stage. And they love to perform in front of YOU and ME! Not just to anyone... That is why they keep it going.

BV, for a man as bright as yourself, this ............ <<< Why on earth would ticket sales have anything to do with their touring? >>> .......... is an extraordinarily silly question in my opinion. I'm most surprised you ask it.

OF course ticket sales have "something to do with touring". Ticket sales, at any particular price, are nothing more or nothing less than "a measure" of peoples' interest in seeing the band. I completely agree with you that once the Stones made their financial demands for performing known (i.e. they specify their guaranteed fee), then it was up to various promoters to bid for the right to promote the band and lay on the tour. BUT - the Rolling Stones themselves, no matter how far removed from the day to day boring humdrum activities of promoting and selling, CANNOT be absolved of some degree of responsibility for the pricing structure that the successful promoter then subsequently came up with.

If they had specified that they wanted a guaranteed $100,000 each for Mick, Keith, Charlie, and Ronnie per show, then we more than likely wouldn't be seeing pit packages for $1,500 - would we ? But they didn't ask for a measly $100,000 for each key band member per show, did they ? They asked for a s**tload MORE !!

so whatever else you do, please don't try and sell the argument that there isn't a connection between ticket sales and touring, as if "money isn't an overriding concern to this band. If it wasn't an overriding concern, they wouldn't be charging absurd guaranteed fees, and forcing promoters to come up with equally absurd ticket prices in order to cover their arses !!

The only remotely sensibly priced gigs of this entire run of shows are probably Hyde Park 1 & 2, that's it. The American shows indicate that both parties have taken leave of their senses, the Rolling stones themselves, and similarly their idiotic promoter - AEG.