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Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: iamwaiting ()
Date: January 10, 2013 02:17

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I like Bill's work on Rip This Joint and All Down The Line

Bill Plummer plays upright bass on Rip This Joint, not Bill Wyman. So once again a non-Wyman song has a likable bass part.

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: January 10, 2013 02:44

The "All Down The Line" mono 45 mix is WAY different than the stereo LP mix..listen to them back to back sometime!

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: January 10, 2013 02:46

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Munichhilton
I like Bill's work on Rip This Joint and All Down The Line

Bill Plummer plays upright bass on Rip This Joint, not Bill Wyman. So once again a non-Wyman song has a likable bass part.

I know....that's why I said I like Bill's work on....oh forget it.

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: LieB ()
Date: January 10, 2013 03:01

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scottkeef
The "All Down The Line" mono 45 mix is WAY different than the stereo LP mix..listen to them back to back sometime!

Yes, I've heard the 45 mix and it's awesome (though I can't really remember why I thought so) and different from the Exile version. Still, the album version is 100% mono. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Using the regular album version as the B side of the Plundered My Soul single was a wasted opportunity; they should have picked that 45 mix.

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: January 10, 2013 04:29

Bill is beyond superb, but Keith's bass on "Casino Boogie" is one of my favorite Stones pleasures. It's completely wrong from a technical point of view, but it's perfect. Taylor on "Tumbling Dice" is extraordinary as well. Ronnie had a great moment on "Emotional Rescue". But go back and listen to the reissued Ya Yas or Ladies & Gentlemen. Mr. Bill Wyman was the secret weapon of this band.

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: January 10, 2013 04:37

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LieB
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scottkeef
The "All Down The Line" mono 45 mix is WAY different than the stereo LP mix..listen to them back to back sometime!

Yes, I've heard the 45 mix and it's awesome (though I can't really remember why I thought so) and different from the Exile version. Still, the album version is 100% mono. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Using the regular album version as the B side of the Plundered My Soul single was a wasted opportunity; they should have picked that 45 mix.

Whoa, you know I never really noticed that before (even tho like you say they are completely different mixes) Maybe its just me but for example I think the DJ Mono SF LP blows away the stereo version. Now there are some here that will point out to me(and have) that this is just a fold down but all I know is it smokes especially "Knockin"

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Date: January 10, 2013 06:43

Who plays bass on "Hide You Love"? I assumed it was Keith, it does't sound like Bill.... Love the bass roll on that.

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: uhbuhgullayew ()
Date: January 10, 2013 06:51

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71Tele
Bill is beyond superb, but Keith's bass on "Casino Boogie" is one of my favorite Stones pleasures. It's completely wrong from a technical point of view, but it's perfect.


Sounds like a jazz description to me.

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: January 10, 2013 07:25

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at least Keith and Ronnie play real basses ..not those funny home-made things..

Aw, come on!! you know you really want one of Bill's "home-tweaked" bass git-fiddles!! HAR HAR

Bill's home tweaked bass rocked the world!

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: lapaz62 ()
Date: January 10, 2013 07:26

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I suppose you could say that others have risen to the occassion on individual cuts as far as the bass part goes. Keith was fantastic on Sympathy, JJF, and Happy. Sympathy is the only cut where I think Bill just couldn't get that mad samba. JJF & Happy are done in the Bill Wyman/Stones style.

Ronnie's standout bass moment was Emotional Rescue. I don't know why they chose Ronnie, when Bill had just knocked the world out with his bass on the Miss You single. Ronnie never again rose to make a bass part that mattered on a Stones single.

Mick Taylor had his moments with Tumbling Dice and Fingerprint File, even though I think Bill claims to be on the Tumbling Dice single. On Fingerprint File Bill does contribute the synthesizer, which he also performed on the 1975 tour. And don't forget his credited organ playing on Jumping Jack Flash.

Face it. Even though it may not be Bill playing (during the classic years) on a cut, except for a very few instances, the bass line is in the Wyman style. I pay close attention to how Bill played things live that he didn't play on the studio cut and he has never let me down. He could play the bass part to Happy in his sleep.

And the fact that people actually listen to what the bassist is playing on a song is testament to Bill's talent. Hardly anyone listens to Darryl Jones and thinks, Oh Yeah, that's much better.

Taylor also played Bass on Dancing with Mr D, I think.



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Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: Glam Descendant ()
Date: January 10, 2013 08:01

>Ronnie's standout bass moment was Emotional Rescue. I don't know why they chose Ronnie


I don't think they *chose* Ronnie, I just don't think Bill was present when the basic track was laid down;(based on comments from Jagger).

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: January 10, 2013 08:26

There are some Bass-players with the spirit of Keith or Ronnie out there...Bruce Thomas in The Attractions for example...

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Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: lapaz62 ()
Date: January 10, 2013 12:25

When someone joins a band but can't play anything, they give him a Bass.

Re: Keith, Mick T and Ronnie, the great bass players
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: January 10, 2013 13:45

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71Tele
Bill is beyond superb, but Keith's bass on "Casino Boogie" is one of my favorite Stones pleasures. It's completely wrong from a technical point of view, but it's perfect. Taylor on "Tumbling Dice" is extraordinary as well. Ronnie had a great moment on "Emotional Rescue". But go back and listen to the reissued Ya Yas or Ladies & Gentlemen. Mr. Bill Wyman was the secret weapon of this band.
darn right.bill had a very heavy duty bass sound.

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