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Not correct: Lady Jane yes, should be no 7 but Satisfaction was not on the set list.
TRUE, I think - and unless what I said in the O2 update threat (I was too thrilled and thinking there are mostly hardcore fans at this show) - Stones are professionals and deliver to the mayority - and so is the setlist......! No problem.....the show should be enjoyed and not be analyzed tooo much...!!!
Not on the set list and not on rs.com...check again.
Why not give them gorilla towels to wave too.
No they didn't. I have the set list in front of me: JJF is no 24 after no 23 YCAGWYW...and no 7 Lady Jane but they just decided not to play that one.
Ah, now they did! But I have it in front of me, believe me; jjf last and 24th song!
Well, at least he hasn't hired allison krauss to sing every word in unison with him and hit his high notes for him like robert plant has.
Maybe he should, Arthritis? The thing is, I don't mind the pointing and strutting, it's part of Jagger's swagger. But if you add that nasal, flat voice on top of that it doesn't end well. Nowadays...
It's actually quite common on internet boards. of course, the discussion has absolutely no relationship to what actually happened in the room, as people have pointed out in response.
Quite amusing, people complaining about a set full of Stones songs. Given the circumstances, given my personal situation of having seen over 50 shows since 72 and having dropped one Large on a pair of great looking seats in Bklyn in a weak, Cognac-driven late night moment, I'm pleased with the evening and hoping Mick T., at least, is not afraid to fly over.
I find his joke offensive, it is TIME for it!
Why would anyone on this Board care what Paul McCartney (or Billy Joel or Elton John or anyone else) played in concert? [EDIT] Sorry, perhaps your point is that despite being the same age, McCartney plays a longer show, so the Stones should also play a longer show? I might agree with that. They could mix in an acoustic set to control the pacing. In terms of actual music, I suspect that most of the people on this board would trade a three-song set by the Stones for 3 hour show by "Macca".
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 04:53 by drbryant.
Most of these songs are no more than 2-3 minutes in length.
I think it is quite clear what the point is. It is about effort, content, and value. Rehashing the same old songs to please the majority is DOA. A 70 year old musician can play 37 songs from throughout their career and mix them up with ease why can't the Stones?
Some are some are not. The Stones also have many 2 to 3 minute songs that could be added to the show.
It's a delicate balance. They need to rehash the old songs. I want to hear JJF, MR, TD, even after all these years. Some other crezy longtime fan will have his own small list. There's a little wiggle room for new and/or obscure stuff. But DOA? I don't think so.
It is an example of what setlist should look like. It has nothing to do with who is better than who. It is all about the content. The Stones choose the easiest path possible. There are no risks, no hard work, just the usual string of the same hits and a sprinkling of songs that have made into many tours prior.
Really, where is the effort here? They leave out so many songs from their catalog it is depressing.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Dreamer
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:07
Quote
mjmjr
official set list had lady jane and satisfaction, probably omitted since they started 40 minutes late
Not correct: Lady Jane yes, should be no 7 but Satisfaction was not on the set list.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
mjmjr
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:07
according to rs.com it was to be the final #
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
ThroughTheLonelyNights
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:08
Quote
andy js
Looks more than solid to me. You also have to factor in, the vast MAJORITY of people attending gigs don't want obscure album tracks, they want to hear the so called 'classics' and have a good nights entertainment
It doesn't matter what a few hundred of us would prefer. You have to cater for the majority
TRUE, I think - and unless what I said in the O2 update threat (I was too thrilled and thinking there are mostly hardcore fans at this show) - Stones are professionals and deliver to the mayority - and so is the setlist......! No problem.....the show should be enjoyed and not be analyzed tooo much...!!!
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Dreamer
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:11
Quote
mjmjr
according to rs.com it was to be the final #
Not on the set list and not on rs.com...check again.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
The Sicilian
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:11
Quote
ThroughTheLonelyNightsQuote
andy js
Looks more than solid to me. You also have to factor in, the vast MAJORITY of people attending gigs don't want obscure album tracks, they want to hear the so called 'classics' and have a good nights entertainment
It doesn't matter what a few hundred of us would prefer. You have to cater for the majority
TRUE, I think - and unless what I said in the O2 update threat (I was too thrilled and thinking there are mostly hardcore fans at this show) - Stones are professionals and deliver to the mayority - and so is the setlist......! No problem.....the show should be enjoyed and not be analyzed tooo much...!!!
Why not give them gorilla towels to wave too.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
mjmjr
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:14
they changed it....if i knew how to post a picture i would, but they had a picture of the official set list up and removed it
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 02:15 by mjmjr.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 02:15 by mjmjr.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
ThroughTheLonelyNights
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:16
Quote
The SicilianQuote
ThroughTheLonelyNightsQuote
andy js
Looks more than solid to me. You also have to factor in, the vast MAJORITY of people attending gigs don't want obscure album tracks, they want to hear the so called 'classics' and have a good nights entertainment
It doesn't matter what a few hundred of us would prefer. You have to cater for the majority
TRUE, I think - and unless what I said in the O2 update threat (I was too thrilled and thinking there are mostly hardcore fans at this show) - Stones are professionals and deliver to the mayority - and so is the setlist......! No problem.....the show should be enjoyed and not be analyzed tooo much...!!!
Gorilla towels are way too stupid - but what do you want to say??
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 02:16 by ThroughTheLonelyNights.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
backstreetboy1
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:16
i donyt know how u can sy same setlist 40 years.what about licks tour.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Dreamer
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:18
Quote
mjmjr
they changed it....if i knew how to post a picture i would, but they had a picture of the official set list up and removed it
No they didn't. I have the set list in front of me: JJF is no 24 after no 23 YCAGWYW...and no 7 Lady Jane but they just decided not to play that one.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Dreamer
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:22
Quote
mjmjr
they changed it....if i knew how to post a picture i would, but they had a picture of the official set list up and removed it
Ah, now they did! But I have it in front of me, believe me; jjf last and 24th song!
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
mjmjr
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:24
ok.........good set anyway
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:30
I think we have reached a point where the setlist doesn't matter that much. It's the deliverance that matters. And I'm afraid Mick's voice is a bit of a spoiler these days.
And the pointing and strutting only makes it worse.
And the pointing and strutting only makes it worse.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
arthritis
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:40
Quote
Stoneage
I think we have reached a point where the setlist doesn't matter that much. It's the deliverance that matters. And I'm afraid Mick's voice is a bit of a spoiler these days.
And the pointing and strutting only makes it worse.
Well, at least he hasn't hired allison krauss to sing every word in unison with him and hit his high notes for him like robert plant has.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:49
Quote
arthritisQuote
Stoneage
I think we have reached a point where the setlist doesn't matter that much. It's the deliverance that matters. And I'm afraid Mick's voice is a bit of a spoiler these days.
And the pointing and strutting only makes it worse.
Well, at least he hasn't hired allison krauss to sing every word in unison with him and hit his high notes for him like robert plant has.
Maybe he should, Arthritis? The thing is, I don't mind the pointing and strutting, it's part of Jagger's swagger. But if you add that nasal, flat voice on top of that it doesn't end well. Nowadays...
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Lady Jayne
()
Date: November 26, 2012 03:14
At one point Mick 'joked' it was time to play the whole Satanic Majesties album, so be thankful for small mercies! I must be very non hard core because I loved the set list.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: November 26, 2012 03:24
Tepid list
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Rokyfan
()
Date: November 26, 2012 03:33
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GumbootCloggeroo
You can't judge a show based on the set list...
It's actually quite common on internet boards. of course, the discussion has absolutely no relationship to what actually happened in the room, as people have pointed out in response.
Quite amusing, people complaining about a set full of Stones songs. Given the circumstances, given my personal situation of having seen over 50 shows since 72 and having dropped one Large on a pair of great looking seats in Bklyn in a weak, Cognac-driven late night moment, I'm pleased with the evening and hoping Mick T., at least, is not afraid to fly over.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
scottkeef
()
Date: November 26, 2012 03:52
Looks good other than they coulda left played a couple more good songs instead of Miss You and Start Me Up and Taylor should have been on YCAGWYW too...
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
TheBostonStrangler
()
Date: November 26, 2012 03:55
Quote
Lady Jayne
At one point Mick 'joked' it was time to play the whole Satanic Majesties album, so be thankful for small mercies! I must be very non hard core because I loved the set list.
I find his joke offensive, it is TIME for it!
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
drbryant
()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:24
I thought that it was an amazing setlist. I think many people who don't have as much experience attending shows by major artists don't understand that the second half of a show has always been dedicated to the artists' most well-known tracks. It's primarily for reasons of pacing. Smaller bands with a core group of fans have more flexibility.
I actually think that even long time fans enjoy hearing the favorites to close out a show. On the Bigger Bang tour, it seems that most people on this Forum enjoyed the shows, but there were quite a few complaints every show about the setlist. I remember checking (by clicking on the names of people who mentioned setlists) and was surprised to see that a small handful of members were posting constantly about setlists (multiple posts in one day on different threads all complaining about the setlist), and literally nothing else. I don't know about this tour, though.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 04:48 by drbryant.
I actually think that even long time fans enjoy hearing the favorites to close out a show. On the Bigger Bang tour, it seems that most people on this Forum enjoyed the shows, but there were quite a few complaints every show about the setlist. I remember checking (by clicking on the names of people who mentioned setlists) and was surprised to see that a small handful of members were posting constantly about setlists (multiple posts in one day on different threads all complaining about the setlist), and literally nothing else. I don't know about this tour, though.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 04:48 by drbryant.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
The Sicilian
()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:47
Here is a setlist from Paul McCartney's 2012 tour on November 14, 2012 at Houston Tx.
37 Songs, Are you reading this everybody???
Now compare the shows.
01-Magical Mystery Tour
02-Junior's Farm
03-All My Loving
04-Jet
05-Got to Get You into My Life
06-Sing the Changes
07-The Night Before
08-Let Me Roll It
09-Paperback Writer
10-The Long and Winding Road
11-Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five
12-My Valentine
13-Maybe I'm Amazed
14-I'm Looking Through You
15-And I Love Her
16-Blackbird
17-Here Today
18-Dance Tonight
19-Mrs. Vandebilt
20-Eleanor Rigby
21-Something
22-Band on the Run
23-Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
24-Back in the U.S.S.R.
25-I've Got a Feeling
26-A Day in the Life
("Give Peace a Chance" snippet)
27-Let It Be
28-Live and Let Die
29-Hey Jude
Encore:
30-Lady Madonna
31-Day Tripper
32-Get Back
Encore 2:
33-Yesterday
34-Helter Skelter
35-Golden Slumbers
36-Carry That Weight
37-The End
37 Songs, Are you reading this everybody???
Now compare the shows.
01-Magical Mystery Tour
02-Junior's Farm
03-All My Loving
04-Jet
05-Got to Get You into My Life
06-Sing the Changes
07-The Night Before
08-Let Me Roll It
09-Paperback Writer
10-The Long and Winding Road
11-Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five
12-My Valentine
13-Maybe I'm Amazed
14-I'm Looking Through You
15-And I Love Her
16-Blackbird
17-Here Today
18-Dance Tonight
19-Mrs. Vandebilt
20-Eleanor Rigby
21-Something
22-Band on the Run
23-Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
24-Back in the U.S.S.R.
25-I've Got a Feeling
26-A Day in the Life
("Give Peace a Chance" snippet)
27-Let It Be
28-Live and Let Die
29-Hey Jude
Encore:
30-Lady Madonna
31-Day Tripper
32-Get Back
Encore 2:
33-Yesterday
34-Helter Skelter
35-Golden Slumbers
36-Carry That Weight
37-The End
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
drbryant
()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:50
Quote
The Sicilian
Here is a setlist from Paul McCartney's 2012 tour on November 14, 2012 at Houston Tx.
37 Songs, Are you reading this everybody???
Now compare the shows.
01-Magical Mystery Tour
02-Junior's Farm
03-All My Loving
04-Jet
05-Got to Get You into My Life
06-Sing the Changes
07-The Night Before
08-Let Me Roll It
09-Paperback Writer
10-The Long and Winding Road
11-Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five
12-My Valentine
13-Maybe I'm Amazed
14-I'm Looking Through You
15-And I Love Her
16-Blackbird
17-Here Today
18-Dance Tonight
19-Mrs. Vandebilt
20-Eleanor Rigby
21-Something
22-Band on the Run
23-Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
24-Back in the U.S.S.R.
25-I've Got a Feeling
26-A Day in the Life
("Give Peace a Chance" snippet)
27-Let It Be
28-Live and Let Die
29-Hey Jude
Encore:
30-Lady Madonna
31-Day Tripper
32-Get Back
Encore 2:
33-Yesterday
34-Helter Skelter
35-Golden Slumbers
36-Carry That Weight
37-The End
Why would anyone on this Board care what Paul McCartney (or Billy Joel or Elton John or anyone else) played in concert? [EDIT] Sorry, perhaps your point is that despite being the same age, McCartney plays a longer show, so the Stones should also play a longer show? I might agree with that. They could mix in an acoustic set to control the pacing. In terms of actual music, I suspect that most of the people on this board would trade a three-song set by the Stones for 3 hour show by "Macca".
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 04:53 by drbryant.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
Hanns Rainsch
()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:54
Has anyone noticed that this was the longest Stones concert in Europe since 1995? The official setlist was even 25 songs (incl. Lady Jane & Satisfaction) what would have made the show longer than all Brigdes to Babylon concerts and most Voodoo Lounge sets. After the usual 18-19 songs of the last Bigger Bang legs that's a surprise.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
uhbuhgullayew
()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:58
Quote
The Sicilian
Here is a setlist from Paul McCartney's 2012 tour on November 14, 2012 at Houston Tx.
37 Songs, Are you reading this everybody???
Now compare the shows.
01-Magical Mystery Tour
02-Junior's Farm
03-All My Loving
04-Jet
05-Got to Get You into My Life
06-Sing the Changes
07-The Night Before
08-Let Me Roll It
09-Paperback Writer
10-The Long and Winding Road
11-Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five
12-My Valentine
13-Maybe I'm Amazed
14-I'm Looking Through You
15-And I Love Her
16-Blackbird
17-Here Today
18-Dance Tonight
19-Mrs. Vandebilt
20-Eleanor Rigby
21-Something
22-Band on the Run
23-Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
24-Back in the U.S.S.R.
25-I've Got a Feeling
26-A Day in the Life
("Give Peace a Chance" snippet)
27-Let It Be
28-Live and Let Die
29-Hey Jude
Encore:
30-Lady Madonna
31-Day Tripper
32-Get Back
Encore 2:
33-Yesterday
34-Helter Skelter
35-Golden Slumbers
36-Carry That Weight
37-The End
Most of these songs are no more than 2-3 minutes in length.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
The Sicilian
()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:59
Quote
drbryant
I thought that it was an amazing setlist. I think many people who don't have as much experience attending shows by major artists don't understand that the second half of a show has always been dedicated to the artists' most well-known tracks. It's primarily for reasons of pacing. Smaller bands with a core group of fans have more flexibility.
Why would anyone on this Board care what Paul McCartney (or Billy Joel or Elton John or anyone else) played in concert? Is there a point here?
I think it is quite clear what the point is. It is about effort, content, and value. Rehashing the same old songs to please the majority is DOA. A 70 year old musician can play 37 songs from throughout their career and mix them up with ease why can't the Stones?
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
The Sicilian
()
Date: November 26, 2012 05:02
Quote
uhbuhgullayew
Most of these songs are no more than 2-3 minutes in length.
Some are some are not. The Stones also have many 2 to 3 minute songs that could be added to the show.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
GumbootCloggeroo
()
Date: November 26, 2012 05:07
Well, the Paul McCartney/Rolling Stones comparison sure didn't take long!
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
carlorossi
()
Date: November 26, 2012 05:14
Quote
The Sicilian
Rehashing the same old songs to please the majority is DOA.
It's a delicate balance. They need to rehash the old songs. I want to hear JJF, MR, TD, even after all these years. Some other crezy longtime fan will have his own small list. There's a little wiggle room for new and/or obscure stuff. But DOA? I don't think so.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
The Sicilian
()
Date: November 26, 2012 05:16
Quote
GumbootCloggeroo
Well, the Paul McCartney/Rolling Stones comparison sure didn't take long!
It is an example of what setlist should look like. It has nothing to do with who is better than who. It is all about the content. The Stones choose the easiest path possible. There are no risks, no hard work, just the usual string of the same hits and a sprinkling of songs that have made into many tours prior.
Really, where is the effort here? They leave out so many songs from their catalog it is depressing.
Re: The Stones 2012 London setlist discussion
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: November 26, 2012 05:17
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 05:18 by EddieByword.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-26 05:18 by EddieByword.
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