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bam
There won't be empty seats. If the resale shops are working with Ticketmaster and/or the Stones, the unsold seats will be transferred back to Ticketmaster for last minute drops at face via TM.
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bam
There won't be empty seats. If the resale shops are working with Ticketmaster and/or the Stones, the unsold seats will be transferred back to Ticketmaster for last minute drops at face via TM.
Or distributes outside for free or being delivered free when buying a Stones CD in Virgin.
That would be 2 Stones shows in London not sold out. That used to be the Greatest Rock 'n Roll band in the world. Now, they can't even sell tickets or better they are not able to price their own tickets. Just wonder what Jagger learned at LSE, probably not too much of pricing policy and marketing.
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Going out on a limb here with a conspiracy theory. Are we victims of a price fixing scam?
The lack of tickets via TM, even in the seconds following ticket release, coupled with the immediate availability in the reseller market has got me thinking.
Is it possible that a large chunk of tickets have been taken out of the primary system and dropped straight in the secondary market? This would give a higher revenue yield, with fees and commissions recouped via the secondary market.
Example: a $600 ticket via ticketmaster instead sells for at least that value plus 20% charges. Therefore, the promoter receives a higher up-front cut from ticket "sales". There is clearly a lot of profit in the secondary market if you can sell at those prices. Or, put another way, there is much more money to share out between the parties from resell prices rather than the official prices. And we are expected to pay for it because it's the Stones and we are so desperate to see them again.
Of course, these tickets don't seem to be shifting in the resale market. So have we been victim to an arbitrage scam that is going badly wrong? Don't TM operate part of this reseller market through "Getmein"?
The most unsettling thing for me is that this couldn't work without collusion. Why not just set the ticket prices higher in the first place? Not if you are the band and want to keep the prices somewhat in check and avoid the negative publicity and backlash. So, you tolerate a controlled level of market manipulation in order to safeguard your $25m cut. The manipulation instead looks like a hugely successful ticket sale, massive demand for tickets, and maybe even claims that prices were underpriced. But it is all an illusion.
I'm just a hobbo who doesn't know about these things, but in my opinion there are dark forces at work. Come on, who really believes that these shows sold out in seconds? Add up all the other add-ons bonanza from box sets at ridiculous prices ($880 was it?), and deluxe, super-deluxe nonsense and we have clear evidence that somebody is trying hard to shaft us ticket buyers any way possible.
I think we are seeing the extreme edge of market manipulation. The whole thing stinks so badly
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There were probably about 20 tickets available at the lowest prices.
There should be a tour in 2013. Less excuse for panic buying then.
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Gazza
There were probably about 20 tickets available at the lowest prices.
There should be a tour in 2013. Less excuse for panic buying then.
What do you know about a tour in 2013?
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Gazza
There were probably about 20 tickets available at the lowest prices.
There should be a tour in 2013. Less excuse for panic buying then.
What do you know about a tour in 2013?
You don't really think he's gonna answer that this soon do you?
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Gazza
There were probably about 20 tickets available at the lowest prices.
There should be a tour in 2013. Less excuse for panic buying then.
What do you know about a tour in 2013?
You don't really think he's gonna answer that this soon do you?
Why, is he part of the Stones PR machine?
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Gazza
There were probably about 20 tickets available at the lowest prices.
There should be a tour in 2013. Less excuse for panic buying then.
What do you know about a tour in 2013?
You don't really think he's gonna answer that this soon do you?
Why, is he part of the Stones PR machine?
Yup
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Gazza
There were probably about 20 tickets available at the lowest prices.
There should be a tour in 2013. Less excuse for panic buying then.
What do you know about a tour in 2013?
You don't really think he's gonna answer that this soon do you?
Why, is he part of the Stones PR machine?
Yup
I doubt it. If he is he should have been fired a long time ago. Shows very little enthusiasm for the band. To be honest I find him kind of a downer.