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crawdaddy
Watch out for the man on the right.He is a well known scalper who will try to sell you tickets for much more than they are worth.
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Grison
Despite my understanding for all the anger and enormous outbreak about the ridicolous ticket prices there are ways to explain such.
We knew already after 2007 that in any event the Rolling Stones would gather moss and play again only for the cash cow in her reach. Mind you you all pointing your fingers to Mick, but I tell you one thing it is also Keith for a very long time who's inspired to take the bucks as big as they can come.
The Rolling Stones had been offered 16 Mio US$ for the four concerts which also was on the News Site within IORR. It was crystal clear that these money is guaranteed for the Stones no matter how the Promoter will make any money out of it. Get me if the currency was £. Anyway it is now up to the Promoter to try to get the utmost out of the event. So he hits the high notes on tickets prices to see how many will go for those and at the end he might even have big cash, because the touts/scalpers took the risk to sell the tickets at even more flipping stupid prices.
As the Stones cash in only anyway the promised amount (perhaps with an upscale percentage on sales) they are never interested in the ticket business at all. We can discuss endlessly if this may be right or wrong. But at the end they concentrate on their ability of playing life while rehearsing or giving secredt clubshows. I do not say that it is fair or anything, but either we live with it even with a bitter taste in the mouth or we live with it anyway.
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Grison
Despite my understanding for all the anger and enormous outbreak about the ridicolous ticket prices there are ways to explain such.
We knew already after 2007 that in any event the Rolling Stones would gather moss and play again only for the cash cow in her reach. Mind you you all pointing your fingers to Mick, but I tell you one thing it is also Keith for a very long time who's inspired to take the bucks as big as they can come.
The Rolling Stones had been offered 16 Mio US$ for the four concerts which also was on the News Site within IORR. It was crystal clear that these money is guaranteed for the Stones no matter how the Promoter will make any money out of it. Get me if the currency was £. Anyway it is now up to the Promoter to try to get the utmost out of the event. So he hits the high notes on tickets prices to see how many will go for those and at the end he might even have big cash, because the touts/scalpers took the risk to sell the tickets at even more flipping stupid prices.
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Grison
Despite my understanding for all the anger and enormous outbreak about the ridicolous ticket prices there are ways to explain such.
We knew already after 2007 that in any event the Rolling Stones would gather moss and play again only for the cash cow in her reach. Mind you you all pointing your fingers to Mick, but I tell you one thing it is also Keith for a very long time who's inspired to take the bucks as big as they can come.
The Rolling Stones had been offered 16 Mio US$ for the four concerts which also was on the News Site within IORR. It was crystal clear that these money is guaranteed for the Stones no matter how the Promoter will make any money out of it. Get me if the currency was £. Anyway it is now up to the Promoter to try to get the utmost out of the event. So he hits the high notes on tickets prices to see how many will go for those and at the end he might even have big cash, because the touts/scalpers took the risk to sell the tickets at even more flipping stupid prices.
$25 million = £16 million.
You're correct in that the entire band are all culpable and that, as I've said before, the promoters are obliged to set a high ticket price to get a return on their very high investment (they had to average approximately £210 per ticket JUST TO BREAK EVEN). However, it still goes back to the Stones only playing these shows because they demanded and were given such an exorbitant guarantee.
By demanding so much money, they're effectively leaving the promoter with little option but to minimise THEIR risk by allowing what was an unregulated secondary market free for all bunfight and passing the financial risk of ticket selling down the chain to third parties. It still doesn't alter the two basic outcomes which are 1) The Stones are demanding and getting paid a crazy amount of money and 2) their fans are being bled white as a result of those demands.
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Grison
Despite my understanding for all the anger and enormous outbreak about the ridicolous ticket prices there are ways to explain such.
We knew already after 2007 that in any event the Rolling Stones would gather moss and play again only for the cash cow in her reach. Mind you you all pointing your fingers to Mick, but I tell you one thing it is also Keith for a very long time who's inspired to take the bucks as big as they can come.
The Rolling Stones had been offered 16 Mio US$ for the four concerts which also was on the News Site within IORR. It was crystal clear that these money is guaranteed for the Stones no matter how the Promoter will make any money out of it. Get me if the currency was £. Anyway it is now up to the Promoter to try to get the utmost out of the event. So he hits the high notes on tickets prices to see how many will go for those and at the end he might even have big cash, because the touts/scalpers took the risk to sell the tickets at even more flipping stupid prices.
$25 million = £16 million.
You're correct in that the entire band are all culpable and that, as I've said before, the promoters are obliged to set a high ticket price to get a return on their very high investment (they had to average approximately £210 per ticket JUST TO BREAK EVEN). However, it still goes back to the Stones only playing these shows because they demanded and were given such an exorbitant guarantee.
By demanding so much money, they're effectively leaving the promoter with little option but to minimise THEIR risk by allowing what was an unregulated secondary market free for all bunfight and passing the financial risk of ticket selling down the chain to third parties. It still doesn't alter the two basic outcomes which are 1) The Stones are demanding and getting paid a crazy amount of money and 2) their fans are being bled white as a result of those demands.
Landing the Stones is a great "catch" for any promoter. Could be that it wasn't so much the Stones "demanding" as it was the promoters "offering". Your "scenario" sort of paints the promoters as victims in this deal. It's really hard to say what went on behind closed doors. I am certain Mick had no desire in pissing off his fan base and coming across as some greedy old rock legend only interested in one last "heist" at the expense of his fans. No, he is much smarter than that. There must be some sort of explanation that probably won't come out until after these four shows are over with. It will be interesting to see if this same group actually promotes the shows next year, or if they do whether the same ticket scale is used. Something doesn't add up here.
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slew
Ticket prices are a scam, The Stones have some sort of input but who knows who really drives it.
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Glam Descendant
Billboard: There's been controversy about your ticket pricing for the London and New Jersey shows. What's your take on that?
Mick: I don't think there should be a secondary ticket market. I don't think it should be legal. To my mind, there has to be a better way of doing it, but we're living, really, with the way the system functions. We can't, in four shows, change the whole ticketing system. You might say, "The tickets are too expensive"-well, it's a very expensive show to put on, just to do four shows, because normally you do a hundred shows and you'd have the same expenses. [laughs] So, yes, it's expensive. But most of the tickets go for a higher price than we've sold them for, so you can see the market is there. We don't participate in the profit. If a ticket costs 250 quid [$400], let's imagine, and goes for 1,000 quid [$1,600], I just want to point out that we don't get that difference.
full interview w/M&K here:
[www.billboard.com]
Well thank You Mr Jagger,for those comforting words,you are totally full of it,and l hope that lots of those tickets go unsold on show night,and of course you set the price by the amount of money you demand and get from the promoters..><Quote
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Billboard: There's been controversy about your ticket pricing for the London and New Jersey shows. What's your take on that?
Mick: I don't think there should be a secondary ticket market. I don't think it should be legal. To my mind, there has to be a better way of doing it, but we're living, really, with the way the system functions. We can't, in four shows, change the whole ticketing system. You might say, "The tickets are too expensive"-well, it's a very expensive show to put on, just to do four shows, because normally you do a hundred shows and you'd have the same expenses. [laughs] So, yes, it's expensive. But most of the tickets go for a higher price than we've sold them for, so you can see the market is there. We don't participate in the profit. If a ticket costs 250 quid [$400], let's imagine, and goes for 1,000 quid [$1,600], I just want to point out that we don't get that difference.
full interview w/M&K here:
[www.billboard.com]
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corriecas
beacuse the Stones dont care.
if they are bought, thats fine by them,
and they dont give a toss about fans opinions
jeroen
Sort of seems that way doesn't it. Maybe the fans should send them a message by not attending. They just use us to feed their addiction to performing anyway. I am moving closer by the day to being done with them altogether.
I share this sentiment and have almost given up.
It's clear from Ronnie & Keith's comments that they're a) out of touch with 'regular' stones fans and/or b)they're not bothered what fans think.
Add to that the lack of output in recent years and Keith's below par performances on the last tour(s)... I kind of wonder, what am I hanging around for, they're done.
The ticket issue is shameful, but the new songs are really good in my opinion. I am thinking PPV is the way to go.
Smart man.
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Glam Descendant
Billboard: There's been controversy about your ticket pricing for the London and New Jersey shows. What's your take on that?
Mick: I don't think there should be a secondary ticket market. I don't think it should be legal. To my mind, there has to be a better way of doing it, but we're living, really, with the way the system functions. We can't, in four shows, change the whole ticketing system. You might say, "The tickets are too expensive"-well, it's a very expensive show to put on, just to do four shows, because normally you do a hundred shows and you'd have the same expenses. [laughs] So, yes, it's expensive. But most of the tickets go for a higher price than we've sold them for, so you can see the market is there. We don't participate in the profit. If a ticket costs 250 quid [$400], let's imagine, and goes for 1,000 quid [$1,600], I just want to point out that we don't get that difference.
full interview w/M&K here:
[www.billboard.com]
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JamesPhelge00
Maybe there will be cheaper ticket prices at some bigger venues. Can't see you would fill stadiums at these prices.