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stonesnow
What's so great about the deluxe box? Is it because it comes with a vinyl, a blu-ray, and a CD or 2 [featuring the Andrew Splooge Oldham orchestra]? Well, I would only have use for the CD/DVD content, and not the blu-ray/vinyl stuff, and I have nowhere to hang the replica poster, so I'm just going to go to a Newbury Comics and get the DVD-only package at the new-item discount price--$16.99USD. As for the live from England '65 stuff, I'll settle for a $15 boot at some point. Sure, I'll miss out on that "ingeniously designed luxurious soft touch package", but the $55 I save will go toward beer and cigarettes for repeat viewings of the DVD. For $71, that box set ought to come with enough beer and cigarettes to get you through the DVD and CDs at least three times. Then it would be worth the price they are asking.
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stonesnow
What's so great about the deluxe box? Is it because it comes with a vinyl, a blu-ray, and a CD or 2 [featuring the Andrew Splooge Oldham orchestra]? Well, I would only have use for the CD/DVD content, and not the blu-ray/vinyl stuff, and I have nowhere to hang the replica poster, so I'm just going to go to a Newbury Comics and get the DVD-only package at the new-item discount price--$16.99USD. As for the live from England '65 stuff, I'll settle for a $15 boot at some point. Sure, I'll miss out on that "ingeniously designed luxurious soft touch package", but the $55 I save will go toward beer and cigarettes for repeat viewings of the DVD. For $71, that box set ought to come with enough beer and cigarettes to get you through the DVD and CDs at least three times. Then it would be worth the price they are asking.
It's actually not that high priced, especially when compared to other Stones stuff, but also compared to a lot of other stuff I've seen lately. I can see why somebody wouldn't care for it. I rarely buy boxes unless I can afford it, which isn't often. I'm not buying the Grrr! box for example, I'm just getting the regular 3 disc version. The only boxes I have are Ladies And Gentlemen and Ya-Ya's, which I only paid $30 and $40 for respectively. I thought the CDs looked like good content, the Soundtrack probably has some BS tracks, but some look promising. And seeing as there isn't a lot of official live material with Brian on it, I was excited about the live CD. $71 dollars seems good to me though, another band I like recently tried to get me to pay that same price for a 3 DVD set, that's it 3 DVD's. Same price. I didn't buy it. This seems to be worth the price to me. If you don't value it as highly, that's your choice and your opinion. But it sounds to me like you're trying to talk people out of getting it just because you aren't.
As for the DVD and BluRay, I actually kind of like that it has both. I don't have a BluRay either, but I'm sure I will one day. It's getting to the point where I"m thinking about not investing any more money into DVDs, because they're on the way out.
If you want to buy beer and cigarettes, that's cool. The way I see it though, beer gets pissed out, cigarettes turn to ash. I'm not saying I don't drink or smoke, but they hardly seem like a better value.
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SFTD
The bonus CD recordings from the 1965 tour are unreleased versions and clearly NOT the same recordings that are available on the existing 1965 EP and circulating on bootleg. These are different, to an extent, and surprisingly in minimal " stereo ", well to be fair, stereophonic.
I'll call them stereophonic since the audience noise is definitely stereophonic. Hard to distinguish much stereo effect from the band given amount of audience noise.
A must have !!!!!!!!!!!
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marclaff
Sorry, i don't agree.
Intro / ENSTL / Pain in my heart / Down the road apiece are from the EP
I didn't check the other songs
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marclaff
Sorry, i don't agree.
Intro / ENSTL / Pain in my heart / Down the road apiece are from the EP
I didn't check the other songs
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rootsman
Comparing the versions on "Live in England ´65" to the original EP, I think it´s like this:
Everybody Needs Somebody To Love (short intro) –
Same version
Pain In My Heart –
Very similar music (same?), different vocals/lyrics at about 0.30 onwards
Route 66 –
Alternate take (similar music, different vocals)
I´m Moving On –
Alternate take (similar music, more audible slide, different vocals, no Keith vocals)
I´m Alright –
Alternate take (completely different)
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ironbelly
There was GOT LIVE IF YOU WANT IT! (DFE 8620) VGP, but no VGP catalog number with
4th ENGLAND TOUR MARCH 5-18, 1965
1. We Want The Stones/Everybody Needs Somebody To Love/Pain In My Heart
2. Down The Road Apiece
3. Time Is On My Side
4. I'm Alright
5. Route 66
6. I'm Moving On
7. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love
Once UrbanSteel posted it here, but I can not find it on my HD for comparison.
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thabo
The Bonus CD (live in England 1965) is just fantastic especially the final 'Everybody Needs Somebody'. This is what made the Stones, their early live performances. Don't forget that the Stones were allready a club sensation before they recorded anything, that's why back in 63 the "Pop-Music Media" complained that with 'Come On' the Stones were unable to capture their exciting performance sound on vinyl.
As far as the movie is concerned non of the audio is from the actual performances filmed. Satisfaction for example is from the 1966 'Got Live If You Want It!' LP. I don't mind a different REAL live audio on another live footage, however we all know that the 1966 'Got Live..' LP can hardly be called a real live recording. So it is a pity that they used that audio for the movie instead of the 'Satisfaction' audio from their wellknown live performance on Ready Steady Go, for example. However it looks great though.
The movie is not entirely shot in 1965, in the Director's Cut 'Lady Jane' is used and in all cuts 'Going Home'. And look carefully at the Mick Jagger that is interviewed, this Mick Jagger interview snap shots are clearly from late 1966 or even early 1967, as that was the time that Mick was growing his whiskers (he has it in the interview but not on stage or any other of the Irish 1965 tour footage) and also the subject of the changing youth culture, and specifically reffering to the West-Coast hippy movement, was simply not a topic in Jagger interviews prior to late 66 early 67.
The movie gives a very suprising inside view. It is clear from the stage performance footage that Mick Jagger and Brian Jones are the central personages as far as the image of the band on stage are concerned. But off stage it is Keith that is allready the musical motor of the band, he is either playing the guitar, rehearsing, composing new songs or behind the piano, but all the time he is into music, his performance of 'Needle of Death'on guitar is just breathtakingly hair raisingly beautifull and better than the original by Bert Jansch. And my God what a fine person he seems to once have been before he allowed that German woman to take him somewhere else. Brain however we see hardly playing the guitar or any other instrument off stage. Also we see how closely befriended Oldham and the Glimmer's were back then. Another outstanding feature is the humour of Mick, the scene in the restaurant where he is flirting with some housewives is absolutely hilarious.
I really wonder if the Stones themselves have watched this new release and what they think of it.