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sjs12
I don't really know why I'm posting this because I do believe the ticket prices for these gigs is too high, but...
I was thinking how much it costs for a night out.
If I go out for a big night out, perhaps a meal, a nice bottle of wine, followed by a few drinks, entry to a club and taxis home etc. - well I don't know how much that would come to but:
If I went to one of the best restaurants in London, surely that would be at least £50 per person on food for a 3 course meal, and I don't know how much the wine would be on top. Let's call it £80.
Taxis - £10 each way
A few beers - maybe another £20
Night club - in London that must be £10 or so plus probably another £20 on booze
Well that lot comes to about £150.
Not that I can afford nights out like that but it has been known that I accidentally spend a bloody fortune when I go out for a few beers.
So £106 to see the greatest rock n roll band in the world is probably not too bad in comparison.
£150 seems OK too, maybe even up to £250.
So if you've got the money, paying £400 for a special once in a lifetime gig is maybe not that bad?
Of course, it probably prices most people out in these hard economic times. Certainly it makes it harder for people to attend multiple gigs. But maybe the downside of the Stones doing smaller arena gigs when they can easily sell out a stadium is that people can only afford to see them once per tour, instead of maybe 4 or 5 times.
If I can get tickets at less than about £250 I'll attend a show. I don't think I'll be able to afford more. (I probably can't really afford that.)
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backstreetboy1
lets see gazza,maybe because they have been the greatest band in the world 45 years prior to that,duh.
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Happy24
With that kind of maths you can justify anything, if you consider that part of a big night out must be a 3 course meal in one of the best London restaurants, if you have to take cab, and so on.
My maths goes like this - the Stones get 16 million pounds for 4 shows, which makes it pretty much 1 million for each one of them per one show (the cost of the backing musicians and the crew, which I suppose are part of that, are negligiable in those figures). The average price of a ticket is 400 pouds, maybe more with those special packages, but let's count "only" 400 (the amount of the "cheap tickets" seems to be minimal). There are about 20 000 seats in the O2, so about 80 000 tickets in total, so they sell the tickets for 32 mil. pounds. 16 To The Stones, 16 left. Sure, to rent an arena costs something, the organisation, but it is nothing compared to those amounts, which are close to the pure profit. For 4 shows. 8 hours of music. I can not find any means of justyfying that, no matter how hard I try.
I am looking forward to discussing how much money those bloody greedy bastards like Bono or Springsteen demand for their tickets (in Springsteen's case for only 4 hours of pure music)
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sjs12
One way to get lower ticket prices would be for them to only do stadium shows. That way more people can see them and they can't demand such high prices. Simple economics. (Mick did go to LSE after all so he must understand this.)
For years people have been complaining about stadium gigs. In my opinion these ticket prices are the result of playing only arenas and not stadiums.
OK so the Stones could tour for less profit, but then it is simply supply and demand. They don't have a monopoly on rock n roll concerts. You can always go and see someone else instead. Just like you can buy a Ford instead of a Bentley.
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The jury is hung I tell ya!
How would you know? Even the female members of the jury?
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Happy24
With that kind of maths you can justify anything, if you consider that part of a big night out must be a 3 course meal in one of the best London restaurants, if you have to take cab, and so on.
My maths goes like this - the Stones get 16 million pounds for 4 shows, which makes it pretty much 1 million for each one of them per one show (the cost of the backing musicians and the crew, which I suppose are part of that, are negligiable in those figures). The average price of a ticket is 400 pouds, maybe more with those special packages, but let's count "only" 400 (the amount of the "cheap tickets" seems to be minimal). There are about 20 000 seats in the O2, so about 80 000 tickets in total, so they sell the tickets for 32 mil. pounds. 16 To The Stones, 16 left. Sure, to rent an arena costs something, the organisation, but it is nothing compared to those amounts, which are close to the pure profit. For 4 shows. 8 hours of music. I can not find any means of justyfying that, no matter how hard I try.
I am looking forward to discussing how much money those bloody greedy bastards like Bono or Springsteen demand for their tickets (in Springsteen's case for only 4 hours of pure music)
I don't go to one of London's best restaurants as a part of every big night#, just as I don't go to see the Rolling Stones every Thursday.
I've set my limit of what I can possibly afford (£250ish). If I can get a ticket for that then I'll go. If not I won't. I'd prefer to pay £20 or less of course. But then I'd rather not pay £100 to fill the tank on my car!
#Edit - I have never been to one of London's best restaurants
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Erik_Snow
@Gazza, next thing, you'll be saying that there isn't just only one true religion either !
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Gazza
Its as absurd as suggesting that if Pele or Zinedine Zidane came out of retirement tomorrow they's still be the 'best footballer in the world'.
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robertfraser
Gotta say i'm not surprised at the prices sounds about right I have no idea why people feel betrayed, if you consider the following -
1) how much should a rolling stones ticket be worth if it is possibly the last shows they ever play? There will never be another band like them ever and they will be spoken about for 100's of years - the last legends of a bygone era?
2) any ticket should be charged compared to competition i.e how much should the rolling stones be worth compared to other acts out there, Rhiannia, justin beiber all the crap of the day, madonna even - considerably higher in my opinion it's like seeing the dodo for the last time
3) we have been able to see our band countless times over the last 20 years for £50.00 on average.
4)there are some fans on here that follow them round when they tour and see them 10+ so these prices won't mean anything to them and will ensure they see them, unlike led zepplin who played once and had 20 million fans apply for tickets.
5) I keep reading how they have betrayed fans on here and how it's a kick in the teeth.......are we a fan of the same band? the whole point of the stones attitude and appeal is they don't give a f*ck about what anyone thinks, and they don't care about anyone else, they were punk before punk. If you want a band that cares and wants to save the world try U2.
6) there's a good chance they may tour again next year so not all is lost anyway.
7) so far this year they have given us more product than ever before, in the mid 90's I would have killed for ladies and gents in blu ray quality, charlie is my darling and live in texas. As for the stones archive releases......brill.
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71Tele
The value of the tickets here are subjective, of course, depending on what the individual values. They have made a business decision that the "market" for the last series of Rolling Stones shows justifies these prices, and that enough people will pay them. I have no problem with that. Personally, I don't go to many concerts, so for the artists I truly love I will pay sky-high prices for a great seat. I paid $1400 to see the Stones at Roseland ballroom (which my friends considered insane) but I was able to afford it at the time, and it was a club show, and an opportunity that might never come again, so the value to me was there. For a show featuring Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman in a great venue, I would pay this and more. For a Taylorless, Wymanless show in a large arena, and a band that is five years older from the rather weak band I saw last time, I will not pay these prices.
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mc I am happy you can overlook me being the typo-king...
I wish spell check worked here, but it doesnt. I am a bad
speller, horrible grammarist and worse typer.. and my lysdexia doesnt help anything.
and that is why most of my posts have 5-10 edits.
that and changing my mind/mood all the time
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robertfraser
Gotta say i'm not surprised at the prices sounds about right I have no idea why people feel betrayed, if you consider the following -
1) how much should a rolling stones ticket be worth if it is possibly the last shows they ever play? There will never be another band like them ever and they will be spoken about for 100's of years - the last legends of a bygone era?
2) any ticket should be charged compared to competition i.e how much should the rolling stones be worth compared to other acts out there, Rhiannia, justin beiber all the crap of the day, madonna even - considerably higher in my opinion it's like seeing the dodo for the last time
3) we have been able to see our band countless times over the last 20 years for £50.00 on average.
4)there are some fans on here that follow them round when they tour and see them 10+ so these prices won't mean anything to them and will ensure they see them, unlike led zepplin who played once and had 20 million fans apply for tickets.
5) I keep reading how they have betrayed fans on here and how it's a kick in the teeth.......are we a fan of the same band? the whole point of the stones attitude and appeal is they don't give a f*ck about what anyone thinks, and they don't care about anyone else, they were punk before punk. If you want a band that cares and wants to save the world try U2.
6) there's a good chance they may tour again next year so not all is lost anyway.
7) so far this year they have given us more product than ever before, in the mid 90's I would have killed for ladies and gents in blu ray quality, charlie is my darling and live in texas. As for the stones archive releases......brill.