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'Cockney' used to be spoken by those from the East End of London - anyone burn with ear-shot of the Bow Bells, if you want to get technical. Go to Bow now and you'll more likely come across a burka than someone getting 'Oliver Twist or 'having a bubble bath'
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'Cockney' used to be spoken by those from the East End of London - anyone burn with ear-shot of the Bow Bells, if you want to get technical. Go to Bow now and you'll more likely come across a burka than someone getting 'Oliver Twist or 'having a bubble bath'
Actually the Bow Bells are not in Bow, but on Cheapside (in the City) at St Mary le Bow church
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'Cockney' used to be spoken by those from the East End of London - anyone burn with ear-shot of the Bow Bells, if you want to get technical. Go to Bow now and you'll more likely come across a burka than someone getting 'Oliver Twist or 'having a bubble bath'
Actually the Bow Bells are not in Bow, but on Cheapside (in the City) at St Mary le Bow church
True, but Cheapside - near Whitechapel, right? - counts as East London, kind of, I suppose. Actually, I found out recently that there is a difference between East London and the 'East End'
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'Cockney' used to be spoken by those from the East End of London - anyone burn with ear-shot of the Bow Bells, if you want to get technical. Go to Bow now and you'll more likely come across a burka than someone getting 'Oliver Twist or 'having a bubble bath'
Actually the Bow Bells are not in Bow, but on Cheapside (in the City) at St Mary le Bow church
True, but Cheapside - near Whitechapel, right? - counts as East London, kind of, I suppose. Actually, I found out recently that there is a difference between East London and the 'East End'
There certainly is Al. I never knew until I worked in east London (correct spelling with lower case (e)ast as it is not an official area). The East End is the environs of the square mile around the city.
However east London includes the boroughs of Waltham Forest, Barking & Dagenham, parts of Redbridge, Newham, Tower Hamlets and Barking (though not Dagenham).
There is a slight discrepency as the postal codes for east London end in Redbridge (South Woodford is E18) and Newham (Manor Park is E12) after which, postal wise it becomes Essex.
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Romford has a non-London post code and doesn't use the 020 area code but is administratively within the London Borough of Havering. I don't think it's been part of Essex county since the 1960s.
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'Cockney' used to be spoken by those from the East End of London - anyone burn with ear-shot of the Bow Bells, if you want to get technical. Go to Bow now and you'll more likely come across a burka than someone getting 'Oliver Twist or 'having a bubble bath'
Actually the Bow Bells are not in Bow, but on Cheapside (in the City) at St Mary le Bow church
True, but Cheapside - near Whitechapel, right? - counts as East London, kind of, I suppose. Actually, I found out recently that there is a difference between East London and the 'East End'
There certainly is Al. I never knew until I worked in east London (correct spelling with lower case (e)ast as it is not an official area). The East End is the environs of the square mile around the city.
However east London includes the boroughs of Waltham Forest, Barking & Dagenham, parts of Redbridge, Newham, Tower Hamlets and Barking (though not Dagenham).
There is a slight discrepency as the postal codes for east London end in Redbridge (South Woodford is E18) and Newham (Manor Park is E12) after which, postal wise it becomes Essex.
Romford has a non-London post code and doesn't use the 020 area code but is administratively within the London Borough of Havering. I don't think it's been part of Essex county since the 1960s.
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As a non-londoner, I feel comfortable with this statement: outside of central London, the City and a few of the well known suberbs, IMO, London has no meaning anymore. Where exactly does it begin and end? Parts if Kent, Surrey, Hertfordshire and practically the whole of Middlesx full under this banner of 'Greater London' So many 'Londoners' I meet who reside within the London postal codes are from the home counties, whilst so many genuine Londoners now reside in my Kent neighbourhood. London has became quite faceless in this respect. How many cockneys actually live in the east end? Very few. How many pie and mash shops are left? Even fewer!!