Have any of the live album tracks ever been available on bootleg without overdubs/before they overdubbed on them? Is there a live boot dedicated to such a thing? It may be impossible to do for all I know but it would make a great listening.

the stones never do overdubs, skippy; you should know better.

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the stones never do overdubs, skippy; you should know better.

What was I thinking.

I meant loaves of bread.

Most pre 1999 tracks are all available in their raw form spread out across the boot spectrum. Just off the top of my head, Still Life is available on Jersey Devil, Hampton, Chicago 1981....Flashpoint comes from Wembley and Atlantic City plus some others.

Love You Live is from several nice sounding 1976 boots, mostly Paris. All 4 songs from El Mo around.... and Ya Yas is widely circulating in its entirety.


Live Licks and No Security are tougher to nail down.

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Most pre 1999 tracks are all available in their raw form spread out across the boot spectrum. Just off the top of my head, Still Life is available on Jersey Devil, Hampton, Chicago 1981....Flashpoint comes from Wembley and Atlantic City plus some others.

Love You Live is from several nice sounding 1976 boots, mostly Paris. All 4 songs from El Mo around.... and Ya Yas is widely circulating in its entirety.


Live Licks and No Security are tougher to nail down.

what are you implying here? the stones never have and never will do overdubs; they don't know how to. there are no overdubs; that's just vulgar

NO SECURITY

2."You Got Me Rocking" – 3:26 (Amsterdam Arena, July 6, 1998)
3."Gimme Shelter" – 6:22 (MTV 10 Spot October 25, 1997)
4."Flip the Switch" – 4:12 (Amsterdam Arena, July 1, 1998)
5."Memory Motel" – 6:05 (Amsterdam Arena, July 5, 1998)
6."Corinna" (Taj Mahal/Jesse Ed Davis) – 4:17 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
7."Saint of Me" – 5:25 (River Plate Stadium Buenos Aires, April 4, 1998)
8."Waiting on a Friend" – 5:02 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
9."Sister Morphine" (Jagger/Richards/Marianne Faithfull) – 6:16 (Amsterdam Arena, July 6, 1998)
10."Live with Me" – 3:54 (Amsterdam Arena, July 1, 1998)
11."Respectable" – 3:35 (Amsterdam Arena, July 5, 1998)
12."Thief in the Night" (Jagger/Richards/Pierre de Beauport) – 5:37 (Zeppelinfeld Nuremberg June 13, 1998)
13."The Last Time" – 4:47 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
14."Out of Control" – 7:59 (River Plate Stadium Buenos Aires, April 4, 1998)
Japanese edition bonus track
12."I Just Want to Make Love to You" (Willie Dixon) – 5:19 (Amsterdam Arena July 1, 1998)

Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

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Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

The Licks Live overdub on Neighbours is painfully obvious. How come...what...why?

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Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

The Licks Live overdub on Neighbours is painfully obvious. How come...what...why?

nobody listens to this album anyway. so it really doesn't count.

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Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

Keith spent the 3 days before the Paris show in July 1998 doing overdubs in a studio there for No Security. There are quite a few overdubs on the album.

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Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

Keith spent the 3 days before the Paris show in July 1998 doing overdubs in a studio there for No Security. There are quite a few overdubs on the album.

no. because that would mean the stones do overdubs; and they don't.

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Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

There are a few very noticable overdubs on NS. Keith's acoustic guitar on Waiting On A Friend comes to mind (replacing Mick's guitar).

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Have any of the live album tracks ever been available on bootleg without overdubs/before they overdubbed on them? Is there a live boot dedicated to such a thing? It may be impossible to do for all I know but it would make a great listening.

Well, on the Hampton release, there are a few songs that turned up on Still Life earlier.

On LSTNT the third and fourth guitar in the bridge (featured on Still Life) are removed as far as I can tell...

There is a version of Jumping Jack Flash from YaYas with a over-dubbed solo from Keith. It was discarded. Not bad just did not fit. There is a site somewhere on the net that breaks down GYYYO. Very interesting. I will see If I can find it.

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There is a version of Jumping Jack Flash from YaYas with a over-dubbed solo from Keith. It was discarded. Not bad just did not fit. There is a site somewhere on the net that breaks down GYYYO. Very interesting. I will see If I can find it.

I've seen that page, but never heard the JJF w Keith's solo.

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Have any of the live album tracks ever been available on bootleg without overdubs/before they overdubbed on them? Is there a live boot dedicated to such a thing? It may be impossible to do for all I know but it would make a great listening.

Well, on the Hampton release, there are a few songs that turned up on Still Life earlier.

On LSTNT the third and fourth guitar in the bridge (featured on Still Life) are removed as far as I can tell...

I know there was a third guitar added, it's obvious, but for years I had no idea the ending was from a different show! How strange.

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Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

There are a few very noticable overdubs on NS. Keith's acoustic guitar on Waiting On A Friend comes to mind (replacing Mick's guitar).

I recorded that from the radio and when the live album appeared it seemed untouched to me.

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Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

Keith spent the 3 days before the Paris show in July 1998 doing overdubs in a studio there for No Security. There are quite a few overdubs on the album.

no. because that would mean the stones do overdubs; and they don't.

Some of those overdubs were so bad, I took the liberty of redubbing them over the raw tracks.

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NO SECURITY

2."You Got Me Rocking" – 3:26 (Amsterdam Arena, July 6, 1998)
3."Gimme Shelter" – 6:22 (MTV 10 Spot October 25, 1997)
4."Flip the Switch" – 4:12 (Amsterdam Arena, July 1, 1998)
5."Memory Motel" – 6:05 (Amsterdam Arena, July 5, 1998)
6."Corinna" (Taj Mahal/Jesse Ed Davis) – 4:17 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
7."Saint of Me" – 5:25 (River Plate Stadium Buenos Aires, April 4, 1998)
8."Waiting on a Friend" – 5:02 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
9."Sister Morphine" (Jagger/Richards/Marianne Faithfull) – 6:16 (Amsterdam Arena, July 6, 1998)
10."Live with Me" – 3:54 (Amsterdam Arena, July 1, 1998)
11."Respectable" – 3:35 (Amsterdam Arena, July 5, 1998)
12."Thief in the Night" (Jagger/Richards/Pierre de Beauport) – 5:37 (Zeppelinfeld Nuremberg June 13, 1998)
13."The Last Time" – 4:47 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
14."Out of Control" – 7:59 (River Plate Stadium Buenos Aires, April 4, 1998)
Japanese edition bonus track
12."I Just Want to Make Love to You" (Willie Dixon) – 5:19 (Amsterdam Arena July 1, 1998)

Lots of this doesn't circulate as raw desk tapes though.

Some of the vocals on Get yer ya-ya's out are overdubbed.

www.rollingstonesnet.com/yaya.htm



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Have any of the live album tracks ever been available on bootleg without overdubs/before they overdubbed on them? Is there a live boot dedicated to such a thing? It may be impossible to do for all I know but it would make a great listening.

Well, on the Hampton release, there are a few songs that turned up on Still Life earlier.

On LSTNT the third and fourth guitar in the bridge (featured on Still Life) are removed as far as I can tell...

I know there was a third guitar added, it's obvious, but for years I had no idea the ending was from a different show! How strange.

Not a different show, just edited.

Mathijs

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NO SECURITY

2."You Got Me Rocking" – 3:26 (Amsterdam Arena, July 6, 1998)
3."Gimme Shelter" – 6:22 (MTV 10 Spot October 25, 1997)
4."Flip the Switch" – 4:12 (Amsterdam Arena, July 1, 1998)
5."Memory Motel" – 6:05 (Amsterdam Arena, July 5, 1998)
6."Corinna" (Taj Mahal/Jesse Ed Davis) – 4:17 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
7."Saint of Me" – 5:25 (River Plate Stadium Buenos Aires, April 4, 1998)
8."Waiting on a Friend" – 5:02 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
9."Sister Morphine" (Jagger/Richards/Marianne Faithfull) – 6:16 (Amsterdam Arena, July 6, 1998)
10."Live with Me" – 3:54 (Amsterdam Arena, July 1, 1998)
11."Respectable" – 3:35 (Amsterdam Arena, July 5, 1998)
12."Thief in the Night" (Jagger/Richards/Pierre de Beauport) – 5:37 (Zeppelinfeld Nuremberg June 13, 1998)
13."The Last Time" – 4:47 (TWA Dome, St-Louis, MO, December 12, 1997)
14."Out of Control" – 7:59 (River Plate Stadium Buenos Aires, April 4, 1998)
Japanese edition bonus track
12."I Just Want to Make Love to You" (Willie Dixon) – 5:19 (Amsterdam Arena July 1, 1998)

Lots of this doesn't circulate as raw desk tapes though.

the original poster didn't ask for raw desk tapes,
the shows, except (afaik) buenos aires, are all out on bootlegs

Overdubs on "No Security"? Really? Why bother?

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Actually I think No Security and Stripped each have very little, if any overdubs. Ya-Yas, Love You Love, Still Life, Flashpoint and Lick Licks on the other hand...

(Got Live (US 66) is barely worth even talking about. totally unlistenable after Under My Thumb.

There are a few very noticable overdubs on NS. Keith's acoustic guitar on Waiting On A Friend comes to mind (replacing Mick's guitar).

I recorded that from the radio and when the live album appeared it seemed untouched to me.

Listen to the St. Louis show (or watch the dvd). Then turn on Waiting On A Friend from No Security. Classic Keith acoustic.

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Overdubs on "No Security"? Really? Why bother?

well heck. it was worth a try

Dandelion Powerman. I have the JJF with the Keith's solo over-dub. I added to a CDR. I will have to track it down. I have at least 1K in CDs that includes CDRs.Too many. Never ready can listen to them but, once. Of course, it is the Stones, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, The Who etc; I think I got it here from the "Hot Stuff" Section.

Dandelion Powerman,
Go over to the thread. "No guitar over-dubs on Ya-Ya" mathijs talks about the over dub on JJF.



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Dandelion Powerman. I have the JJF with the Keith's solo over-dub. I added to a CDR. I will have to track it down. I have at least 1K in CDs that includes CDRs.Too many. Never ready can listen to them but, once. Of course, it is the Stones, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, The Who etc; I think I got it here from the "Hot Stuff" Section.

Yeah, I've heard about the overdub. However, I haven't heard it myself yet

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Have any of the live album tracks ever been available on bootleg without overdubs/before they overdubbed on them? Is there a live boot dedicated to such a thing? It may be impossible to do for all I know but it would make a great listening.

Well, on the Hampton release, there are a few songs that turned up on Still Life earlier.

On LSTNT the third and fourth guitar in the bridge (featured on Still Life) are removed as far as I can tell...

I know there was a third guitar added, it's obvious, but for years I had no idea the ending was from a different show! How strange.

Not a different show, just edited.

Mathijs

That's one hell of a edit then!

The Four Flicks dvd has the original Twickenham performance of Street fighting Man before Mick overdubbed a new lead vocal for the Live Licks album.