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I was disappointed with the film. I was hoping we'd get more than "Biggest Bang - Disc Five.
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Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: darkstar212 ()
Date: January 26, 2008 20:52
I was hired as an extra. I was lucky enough to see both shows. The first night there were four seats front row in front of Keith. I was lucky enough to get one of those! One of my greatest concert experiences ever. Caught his pic after Satisfaction. The second night they removed the seats to give it a more vibrant GA feel. I know the stink that erupted about the extras being actors and non-fans. Well there were some of those around for sure. I remember night two when I was standing next to two good looking guy models and one said to the other, "Do you know any Rolling Stones songs? The other pretty boy replied, "I think like one." Very sad, but believe me many a Stones fan was able to get hired as extras as well. It wasn't all non-fans. I met many cool people who were big fans of either the Stones or rock and roll. The stink that erupted about extras not being fans was way overblown. Also, this was a special situation and special event. They had no choise but to have hired people up close. It was crazy with all the cameras and changing film and boom cameras. You had to have people working as actors in case they needed you to move or for liability reasons. Maybe not fair to all real fans, but sadly, if you were there, you would realize thats the only way to film something like they did. I hope people get over this negative attitude over that whole situation and realize it was done for a real reason and **absolutely no way of doing it overwise.** Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot. That simply was the case. Don't complain about some small concessions and be happy with the overall project!!
About three months after the shows, I just happened to start dating Martin Scorsese's personal assistant here in New York. I didn't know it when I first met her. After the first date she told me. I then told her I was hired as an extra for the movie. I also told her how angry Stones fans were online(from IORR of course!) over the use of good looking extras instead of fans. She then took that info and told Martin himself!! Way cool! At the time he was editing the movie daily and she would hear and see him working on it. I was told that he was using mostly footage from night two. Then about two weeks later she told me Martin was upset himself by how the crowd looked. She stated he thought they went overboard and made the crowd too good looking. So he started digitally darkening some of the crowd, eliminating some the pretty people! We broke up after Martin won the Oscar for The Departed and I haven't seen her since. Funny to think the online complaints of people being too good looking might have actually had an effect on the outcome of the movie. Wonder if Martin would have darkened people if the seed hadn't been planted in his mind that there was an uproar over the good looking people. Anyhow, that's my Shine a Light story.
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>>By the way, how do people know those girls were paid to be there? Did this leak out? Or is it assumption? Either way I don't care, just curious.<<
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Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: darkstar212 ()
Date: January 26, 2008 20:52
I was hired as an extra. I was lucky enough to see both shows. The first night there were four seats front row in front of Keith. I was lucky enough to get one of those! One of my greatest concert experiences ever. Caught his pic after Satisfaction. The second night they removed the seats to give it a more vibrant GA feel. I know the stink that erupted about the extras being actors and non-fans. Well there were some of those around for sure. I remember night two when I was standing next to two good looking guy models and one said to the other, "Do you know any Rolling Stones songs? The other pretty boy replied, "I think like one." Very sad, but believe me many a Stones fan was able to get hired as extras as well. It wasn't all non-fans. I met many cool people who were big fans of either the Stones or rock and roll. The stink that erupted about extras not being fans was way overblown. Also, this was a special situation and special event. They had no choise but to have hired people up close. It was crazy with all the cameras and changing film and boom cameras. You had to have people working as actors in case they needed you to move or for liability reasons. Maybe not fair to all real fans, but sadly, if you were there, you would realize thats the only way to film something like they did. I hope people get over this negative attitude over that whole situation and realize it was done for a real reason and **absolutely no way of doing it overwise.** Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot. That simply was the case. Don't complain about some small concessions and be happy with the overall project!!
About three months after the shows, I just happened to start dating Martin Scorsese's personal assistant here in New York. I didn't know it when I first met her. After the first date she told me. I then told her I was hired as an extra for the movie. I also told her how angry Stones fans were online(from IORR of course!) over the use of good looking extras instead of fans. She then took that info and told Martin himself!! Way cool! At the time he was editing the movie daily and she would hear and see him working on it. I was told that he was using mostly footage from night two. Then about two weeks later she told me Martin was upset himself by how the crowd looked. She stated he thought they went overboard and made the crowd too good looking. So he started digitally darkening some of the crowd, eliminating some the pretty people! We broke up after Martin won the Oscar for The Departed and I haven't seen her since. Funny to think the online complaints of people being too good looking might have actually had an effect on the outcome of the movie. Wonder if Martin would have darkened people if the seed hadn't been planted in his mind that there was an uproar over the good looking people. Anyhow, that's my Shine a Light story.
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memphiscats
Excellent story! So cool - good for you open-g.
I LOVE this movie. I know a lot of the fans here don't but c'est la vie - or c'est le Stones. I stand by Marty and his rendition of a Stones concert. I don't care for most of the other films of the Stones I've seen. I thought the production quality was shoddy or just off in some way. But this film is GREAT in my weary movie-goers eyes. I like the opportunity to glimpse at the Stones in a smaller venue. An opportunity that most of us could only dream of...
Thanks so much for sharing your insider scoop.
Cheers.
M.
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memphiscats
Excellent story! So cool - good for you open-g.
I LOVE this movie. I know a lot of the fans here don't but c'est la vie - or c'est le Stones. I stand by Marty and his rendition of a Stones concert. I don't care for most of the other films of the Stones I've seen. I thought the production quality was shoddy or just off in some way. But this film is GREAT in my weary movie-goers eyes. I like the opportunity to glimpse at the Stones in a smaller venue. An opportunity that most of us could only dream of...
Thanks so much for sharing your insider scoop.
Cheers.
M.
Err, look again Memphiscats. this is not my story (wish it was, mind you)
IORR member darkstar212 posted this here in 2008.
cheers
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jhat111
I think anyone that thinks Keith doesn't play well in this movie is out of their minds pretty much
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71Tele
If Scorcese had applied the same treatment to a doc on the Stones as he did to Dylan in "No Direction Home" we would have had the ultimate Stones movie. Instead we got a warmed-over concert film with some random old footage and contrived drama about the set list. Throw in some Clintons and rented blondes, and that's yer movie.
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>>By the way, how do people know those girls were paid to be there? Did this leak out? Or is it assumption? Either way I don't care, just curious.<<
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Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: darkstar212 ()
Date: January 26, 2008 20:52
I was hired as an extra. I was lucky enough to see both shows. The first night there were four seats front row in front of Keith. I was lucky enough to get one of those! One of my greatest concert experiences ever. Caught his pic after Satisfaction. The second night they removed the seats to give it a more vibrant GA feel. I know the stink that erupted about the extras being actors and non-fans. Well there were some of those around for sure. I remember night two when I was standing next to two good looking guy models and one said to the other, "Do you know any Rolling Stones songs? The other pretty boy replied, "I think like one." Very sad, but believe me many a Stones fan was able to get hired as extras as well. It wasn't all non-fans. I met many cool people who were big fans of either the Stones or rock and roll. The stink that erupted about extras not being fans was way overblown. Also, this was a special situation and special event. They had no choise but to have hired people up close. It was crazy with all the cameras and changing film and boom cameras. You had to have people working as actors in case they needed you to move or for liability reasons. Maybe not fair to all real fans, but sadly, if you were there, you would realize thats the only way to film something like they did. I hope people get over this negative attitude over that whole situation and realize it was done for a real reason and **absolutely no way of doing it overwise.** Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot. That simply was the case. Don't complain about some small concessions and be happy with the overall project!!
About three months after the shows, I just happened to start dating Martin Scorsese's personal assistant here in New York. I didn't know it when I first met her. After the first date she told me. I then told her I was hired as an extra for the movie. I also told her how angry Stones fans were online(from IORR of course!) over the use of good looking extras instead of fans. She then took that info and told Martin himself!! Way cool! At the time he was editing the movie daily and she would hear and see him working on it. I was told that he was using mostly footage from night two. Then about two weeks later she told me Martin was upset himself by how the crowd looked. She stated he thought they went overboard and made the crowd too good looking. So he started digitally darkening some of the crowd, eliminating some the pretty people! We broke up after Martin won the Oscar for The Departed and I haven't seen her since. Funny to think the online complaints of people being too good looking might have actually had an effect on the outcome of the movie. Wonder if Martin would have darkened people if the seed hadn't been planted in his mind that there was an uproar over the good looking people. Anyhow, that's my Shine a Light story.
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Would you rather look at a bunch of fat middle aged men and women, screaming and acting like fools
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flilflam
Would you rather look at a bunch of fat middle aged men and women, screaming and acting like fools
No of course not. So what's the Rolling Stones doing on stage in 2006 anyway ?
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flilflam
Would you rather look at a bunch of fat middle aged men and women, screaming and acting like fools
No of course not. So what's the Rolling Stones doing on stage in 2006 anyway ?
Playing a concert, what the hell do think they are doing?
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Would you rather look at a bunch of fat middle aged men and women, screaming and acting like fools
No of course not. So what's the Rolling Stones doing on stage in 2006 anyway ?
Playing a concert, what the hell do think they are doing?
Obviously. play with words goes over some peoples heads at messageboards
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flilflam
Here is an interesting question about the lovely young women (who appear not to be acting) and the young men, most of whom seemed to be enjoying themselves at the concert.
Would you rather look at a bunch of fat middle aged men and women, screaming and acting like fools, or a group of attractive younger people having a genuine blast at a rock concert. I would much prefer the young bunch. This is show business after all, and I want my senses to be stimulated, not deflated.
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flilflam
Here is an interesting question about the lovely young women (who appear not to be acting) and the young men, most of whom seemed to be enjoying themselves at the concert.
Would you rather look at a bunch of fat middle aged men and women, screaming and acting like fools, or a group of attractive younger people having a genuine blast at a rock concert. I would much prefer the young bunch. This is show business after all, and I want my senses to be stimulated, not deflated.
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GOO
Didn't realize the movie was so hated,i really don't think it's that bad
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Didn't realize the movie was so hated,i really don't think it's that bad
I don't think it's hated. It's just that it's seen as a wasted opportunity. It didn't live up to expectations and was not a great concert. The concerts they've filmed on their own on Four Flicks and The Biggest Bang are much better. With Scorcese involved you anticipated something special, or different, and neither happened.
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GOO
Didn't realize the movie was so hated,i really don't think it's that bad
I don't think it's hated. It's just that it's seen as a wasted opportunity. It didn't live up to expectations and was not a great concert. The concerts they've filmed on their own on Four Flicks and The Biggest Bang are much better. With Scorcese involved you anticipated something special, or different, and neither happened.
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flairville
I would much rather see an audience that wants to be there. I was 27 in 2006 and would have given a kidney to be there.
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Stoneage
They hire big names like Scorcese and Hal Ashby to make spectacular cinema and still they manage to make so little out of it! They apply the latest and most expensive camera works to make an epic concert film, the IMAX concert, and still the result is contrived, almost playback looking. You wonder why it so often goes wrong for them?