It is.

Better than Please Please Me (which I love).

Yes PPM has three outstanding tracks (two self penned), but overall Rolling Stones No 1 is just absolutely consistantly brilliant.

Every single second of it.

I played it twice yesterday.

The boys done good.

Bill has some great bass lines on there.

If that was basically their live act in 1963 then the people who saw it were very lucky people.

Rolling Stones No 2 isn't a bad follow up either.



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It's definitely one of the strongest debut albums ever released, but the best debut album ever? The Doors. Maybe Hendrix. Zep's was pretty good, too.



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I'm a King Bee.

How did they get away with that one in 1963?

I realise what I said is subjective.

But I'm never wrong.

:-)

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I realise what I said is subjective.

But I'm never wrong.

:-)

GravityBoy ?

I'm never wruuvulla either.

Neither 'The Rolling Stones' nor 'Please Please Me' is the best debut album ever. There are fillers on both those records and they are not constant. As above mentioned; Led Zeppelin I, Are You Experienced and The Doors are way better. Complete albums. I also wanna nominate Black Sabbath (1970) & The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967)

PPM has some borderline filler, maybe.

Rolling Stones No 1? I disagree.

There is not a single track I want to skip.

The album is pure.

Hendrix and Zep 1st albums are great, I don't deny. But I love that first Stones album and that would be one of my Desert Island discs.

The cover is cool as well.

Classic.

No names.

I listened to it yesterday, what a great half an hour it is! Their mission is clearly stated and accomplished within the same record.

What is the best is of course subjective and whilst I don't agree that it is the best debut album, I do think it is something very special and it's one of my top 3 Rolling Stones albums.

If you want some rythm`blues, try the first Manfred Mann album from `64, "The Five Faces of Mann", -awesome!- And awesome sound too! It makes me think of The Stones, but man, ain`t it even better?

It is a great debut album.

When you think of it, The Stones debut album is head and shoulders above Please Please Me, and Bob Dylan's first album.

I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.

The Stones' first effort was quite unpolished and no original songs.












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Best debut album ever!

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Classic.

No names.

I'm reading Bill's excellent book at the moment and he said the "no names" idea was Andrew's.

It was a bold brilliant move.

They chickened out in America "Englands Newest Hitmakers".. meh.



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I think it is aswell.One must remember the year it was released.The Doors etc were later by a few years.The Stones and Beatles kicked open the door for Rock bands to follow.

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I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.

Good call on Boston. The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do. Boston's debut album "said" everything they had to say. That's true to a lesser degree with Hendrix and the Doors. It's really not true at all with the Stones.

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I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.

Good call on Boston. The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do. Boston's debut album "said" everything they had to say. That's true to a lesser degree with Hendrix and the Doors. It's really not true at all with the Stones.

IMO, it's up there with their best albums.

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I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.

Good call on Boston. The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do. Boston's debut album "said" everything they had to say. That's true to a lesser degree with Hendrix and the Doors. It's really not true at all with the Stones.

IMO, it's up there with their best albums.

Without any original songs, it can't be considered a mature, fully-realized artistic statement. Even Aftermath is basically just a collection of charming baby photos compared to the stunning artistic maturity of Hendrix and the Doors first albums. The Stones didn't really get there until Beggars.



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Yeah, why not...or is it 'Are you experienced'....'Marquee Moon' or 'The Clash'....god knows...

2 1 2 0

I realize this is a Stones forum and to some, anything the Stones have done they will think is the best. But best debut album ever? Give me a break!

At least it's the best debut album by the Stones.

I don't feel the need to compare with others. I absolutely love this one and thank you for
reminding me to put in on tonight!

Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away

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I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.

Boston's debut album "said" everything they had to say. That's true to a lesser degree with Hendrix and the Doors. It's really not true at all with the Stones.

I respectfully beg to disagree that "The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do." If that's true, why would anyone ever make more than one? Maybe it needs to feel like everything's been said and done at the time of its release - a perfect statement of everything the band is at that time - but something that they will never ever be able to improve on? Definitely not.

I love first albums - I'd nominate the Strokes and the Arctic Monkeys for a couple of relatively modern contenders.

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I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.

Boston's debut album "said" everything they had to say. That's true to a lesser degree with Hendrix and the Doors. It's really not true at all with the Stones.

I respectfully beg to disagree that "The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do." If that's true, why would anyone ever make more than one? Maybe it needs to feel like everything's been said and done at the time of its release - a perfect statement of everything the band is at that time - but something that they will never ever be able to improve on? Definitely not.

I love first albums - I'd nominate the Strokes and the Arctic Monkeys for a couple of relatively modern contenders.

If "The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do " - if that would be the case, then I would say that the Best debut would be The Sex Pistols " Nevermind The Bollocks"

I have to say that the first Damned album - " damned, damned, damned" - is truly a masterpiece of loud rock n roll - and they never did anything as great ast that first album.



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I'd have to say that Van Halen's debut was pretty strong as well.

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Mr DJA

I hate playing the "best" game with music. But apart from the debut albums already mentioned, these are some other great ones:

Freak Out - The Mothers of Invention
Music From Big Pink - The Band
Bleach - Nirvana
Enter The Wu Tang (36 Chambers) - Wu Tang Clan
Blue album - Weezer
Endtroducing… - DJ Shadow
Piper at the gates of dawn - Pink Floyd
In The Court of The Crimson King - King Crimson
The Inner Mounting Flame - The Mahavishnu Orchestra
Appetite for Destruction - Guns N' Roses

Pronounced by Lynyrd Skynyrd is pretty damn strong too.

The Cars first album is loaded with songs that were played on the radio...

It seems whatever copy of the Rolling Stones debut I get or hear has this awful scratching - it's not hugely audibly but it is noticeable and ruins my enjoyment of it - during some of the songs; especially noticeable during 'Carol'.

Love the album though!

Meanwhile the Rolling Stones' first album is very good, I surely wouldn't say it's comparable with the albums that followed, nor with other people's debut albums

I think the best debut album of all time is Jimi's Are You Experienced

....but in addition to some of the albums mentioned here; personal favourites are

JJ Cale......Naturally
Iggy Pop's first album; The Idiot
Rod Stewart's first.....Every Picture Tells A Story
The Band.....Music from Big Pink
Derek & The Dominos; Layla & other assorted love songs