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MadMax
Jeppe, surely Sonny is a '67 Tele right? Hard to find one of those but I am 100 % positive it's from 1967.
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JumpinJeppeFlash
There are several errors.
Micawber is NOT a 54 Tele (Malcolm is), it´s a 53 Tele.
Sonny is NOT a 67 Tele, it´s a 66 Tele.
The Mary Kay strat (the one Keith got from Ronnie) is NOT a 58 Strat, it´s a 57 Strat.
Also Keith has played several black Tele Customs, the one he played during ABB Tour is not a 72, it´s a 75.
Only a few of Keiths more famous guitars is mentioned in the youtube clip, there are many more for example Keiths stock 52 Tele nicknamed George and the red 59 355.
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Mathijs
Sonny is a 1967 maple capped Tele. The maple cap didn't come factory standard before January 1967, and in 1966 the Fender logo was still the open gold trim logo. Serial number is also from 1967.
The Mary Kaye is from 1958, not from 1957, as evidenced by the serial number on the neck plate.
Keith only has had two black Fender Telecaster Customs -the 1975 he used from 1975 until 1983, and a copy assembled in 1983 by Jim Barber, which he most probably never used.
Micawber is a 1953, Malcolm a 1954.
And just to note -Keith never named any of his guitars any names.
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MadMax
Mathijs wrote: "Sonny is a 1967 maple capped Tele. The maple cap didn't come factory standard before January 1967, and in 1966 the Fender logo was still the open gold trim logo. Serial number is also from 1967."
Thanks Mathijs, that's what I also remember from my studies of Fenders when I collected like a maniac 10-15 years ago. Also I got the Rolling Stones Gear book and there it clearly states Sonny is a 1967. Señor who wrote it got full access to most of the guitars so why would he mention the wrong year? I have never seen a 1966 Tele with that thicker, "fyrkantigare" logo and the maple fretboard. Maybe I am not wrong Jeppe, eller hur? Cheers!
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JumpinJeppeFlash
There are several errors.
Micawber is NOT a 54 Tele (Malcolm is), it´s a 53 Tele.
Sonny is NOT a 67 Tele, it´s a 66 Tele.
The Mary Kay strat (the one Keith got from Ronnie) is NOT a 58 Strat, it´s a 57 Strat.
Also Keith has played several black Tele Customs, the one he played during ABB Tour is not a 72, it´s a 75.
Only a few of Keiths more famous guitars is mentioned in the youtube clip, there are many more for example Keiths stock 52 Tele nicknamed George and the red 59 355.
Sonny is a 1967 maple capped Tele. The maple cap didn't come factory standard before January 1967, and in 1966 the Fender logo was still the open gold trim logo. Serial number is also from 1967.
The Mary Kaye is from 1958, not from 1957, as evidenced by the serial number on the neck plate.
Keith only has had two black Fender Telecaster Customs -the 1975 he used from 1975 until 1983, and a copy assembled in 1983 by Jim Barber, which he most probably never used.
Micawber is a 1953, Malcolm a 1954.
And just to note -Keith never named any of his guitars any names.
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Elmo Lewis
And just to note -Keith never named any of his guitars any names.
What exactly do you mean, Mathijs? What about Malcolm/Micawber/Guts, etc.?
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Spud
I suspect that a lot of this information and mis-information has been taken from various Guitar magazine interviews with Keith's guitar techs down the years.
I've read a good few... and they quite often contradict each other in the details.
you can't really blame the authors for using what ought to be reliable information from a good source.
As for exact years of manufacture...sometimes it's 100% clear on examination...but sometimes dating one component will be misleading in 50s and 60s production because parts may have been made over many months and serial numbered neck plates usually just came out of a big box !
You can't even trust pencilled neck dates all the time as they only date the neck. [and you did find a few custom order maple capped necks in the mid 60s before they became routinely available.]
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JumpinJeppeFlash
There are several errors.
Micawber is NOT a 54 Tele (Malcolm is), it´s a 53 Tele.
Sonny is NOT a 67 Tele, it´s a 66 Tele.
The Mary Kay strat (the one Keith got from Ronnie) is NOT a 58 Strat, it´s a 57 Strat.
Also Keith has played several black Tele Customs, the one he played during ABB Tour is not a 72, it´s a 75.
Only a few of Keiths more famous guitars is mentioned in the youtube clip, there are many more for example Keiths stock 52 Tele nicknamed George and the red 59 355.
Sonny is a 1967 maple capped Tele. The maple cap didn't come factory standard before January 1967, and in 1966 the Fender logo was still the open gold trim logo. Serial number is also from 1967.
The Mary Kaye is from 1958, not from 1957, as evidenced by the serial number on the neck plate.
Keith only has had two black Fender Telecaster Customs -the 1975 he used from 1975 until 1983, and a copy assembled in 1983 by Jim Barber, which he most probably never used.
Micawber is a 1953, Malcolm a 1954.
And just to note -Keith never named any of his guitars any names.
Mathijs
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Spud
I just don't see the point of getting upset about these details...which we know can leave a little open to interpretation and opinion.
If errors are made due to carelessness or gross ignorance...that's another matter...but I think most folks are genuinely trying to get it right.
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Spud
I just don't see the point of getting upset about these details...which we know can leave a little open to interpretation and opinion.
If errors are made due to carelessness or gross ignorance...that's another matter...but I think most folks are genuinely trying to get it right.
I'm glad you say this Spud, because I see it that way too. That type of video clip, or e.g. the Stones Gear book, or even fan authored books - often I catch some mistakes, often I do not, but almost always my first reaction and impulse is one of "Job well done, and thank you". And not "There are several mistakes in here".
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Spud
I just don't see the point of getting upset about these details...which we know can leave a little open to interpretation and opinion.
If errors are made due to carelessness or gross ignorance...that's another matter...but I think most folks are genuinely trying to get it right.
I'm glad you say this Spud, because I see it that way too. That type of video clip, or e.g. the Stones Gear book, or even fan authored books - often I catch some mistakes, often I do not, but almost always my first reaction and impulse is one of "Job well done, and thank you". And not "There are several mistakes in here".
What is the point of writing a book that describes even the most well-known and well-documented instruments with several fact errors and claiming it to be "the most comprehensive ever"?