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Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: January 1, 2020 11:46

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I just don't see the point of getting upset about these details...which we know can leave a little open to interpretation and opinion.

If errors are made due to carelessness or gross ignorance...that's another matter...but I think most folks are genuinely trying to get it right.

I'm glad you say this Spud, because I see it that way too. That type of video clip, or e.g. the Stones Gear book, or even fan authored books - often I catch some mistakes, often I do not, but almost always my first reaction and impulse is one of "Job well done, and thank you". And not "There are several mistakes in here".

What is the point of writing a book that describes even the most well-known and well-documented instruments with several fact errors and claiming it to be "the most comprehensive ever"?
So, what would you suggest? Do not write the book?

Yes, i would suggest that.

Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Date: January 1, 2020 17:03

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I just don't see the point of getting upset about these details...which we know can leave a little open to interpretation and opinion.

If errors are made due to carelessness or gross ignorance...that's another matter...but I think most folks are genuinely trying to get it right.

I'm glad you say this Spud, because I see it that way too. That type of video clip, or e.g. the Stones Gear book, or even fan authored books - often I catch some mistakes, often I do not, but almost always my first reaction and impulse is one of "Job well done, and thank you". And not "There are several mistakes in here".

What is the point of writing a book that describes even the most well-known and well-documented instruments with several fact errors and claiming it to be "the most comprehensive ever"?
So, what would you suggest? Do not write the book?

Yes, i would suggest that.
LOL, so better no Stones books at all?

Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: January 1, 2020 17:24

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I just don't see the point of getting upset about these details...which we know can leave a little open to interpretation and opinion.

If errors are made due to carelessness or gross ignorance...that's another matter...but I think most folks are genuinely trying to get it right.

I'm glad you say this Spud, because I see it that way too. That type of video clip, or e.g. the Stones Gear book, or even fan authored books - often I catch some mistakes, often I do not, but almost always my first reaction and impulse is one of "Job well done, and thank you". And not "There are several mistakes in here".

What is the point of writing a book that describes even the most well-known and well-documented instruments with several fact errors and claiming it to be "the most comprehensive ever"?
So, what would you suggest? Do not write the book?

Yes, i would suggest that.
LOL, so better no Stones books at all?

Leave it to those who know what they are doing.

Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Posted by: xke38 ()
Date: January 1, 2020 20:27

I'd be interested to know how we - or some people - know that e.g. Micawber is a '53 as opposed to '54 Tele. Blackguard Teles were made until mid-54, and serial numbers, which were still on the bridgeplate, overlapped a lot in the period from 1950 to 1954 (even more so than in later periods). Body and neck dates as well as pot codes (unless replaced) would need to have been verified in order to come to any definitive conclusion...

Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: January 1, 2020 23:57

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I'd be interested to know how we - or some people - know that e.g. Micawber is a '53 as opposed to '54 Tele. Blackguard Teles were made until mid-54, and serial numbers, which were still on the bridgeplate, overlapped a lot in the period from 1950 to 1954 (even more so than in later periods). Body and neck dates as well as pot codes (unless replaced) would need to have been verified in order to come to any definitive conclusion...

Alan Rogan
”Chuch” Magee (R.I.P)
Johnny Starbuck
Pierre de Beauport
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Etc.

And several other sources.

Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Date: January 2, 2020 04:07

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I just don't see the point of getting upset about these details...which we know can leave a little open to interpretation and opinion.

If errors are made due to carelessness or gross ignorance...that's another matter...but I think most folks are genuinely trying to get it right.

I'm glad you say this Spud, because I see it that way too. That type of video clip, or e.g. the Stones Gear book, or even fan authored books - often I catch some mistakes, often I do not, but almost always my first reaction and impulse is one of "Job well done, and thank you". And not "There are several mistakes in here".

What is the point of writing a book that describes even the most well-known and well-documented instruments with several fact errors and claiming it to be "the most comprehensive ever"?
So, what would you suggest? Do not write the book?

Yes, i would suggest that.
LOL, so better no Stones books at all?

Leave it to those who know what they are doing.
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Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: January 2, 2020 12:16

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Ronnie is using one of Brian's Firebirds on Stripped.

Not Brian's. smiling smiley

Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: January 2, 2020 12:20

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Does Keith have/use any of Brian's guitars?

They still own some of the guitars Brian used, both non reverse Firebirds for example.

Last shown example of Keith 'playing' one is in IORR promo video. That's the same non reverse Firebird Brian played during the 1966 UK tour.

Re: Keith Richards - History of His Guitars
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: January 2, 2020 12:28

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So, what would you suggest? Do not write the book?

Write it, but don't be an absolute knobhead when people show information which throws doubt or out right disproves things that are in the book.

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