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Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: buffalo7478 ()
Date: February 26, 2012 14:24

The studio version still gives me chills every time I hear it - something few other songs do. It can never be matched.

Live in '73 (even Brussels) they played it with fire...different but with the fire and passion the song needs. Keith's rhythm, Taylor's leads - superb. The Vegas versions are an embarrassment next to the pre-1975 versions

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: February 26, 2012 14:47

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seitan

Taylor is a great guitarist - but are you sure he dont overplay his cards here - To me Rolling Stones have always been the best - when they dont turn songs into mad guitar solo fest.


Taylor is very careful not to play over Jagger's vocals. That would be an immediate firing offense.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Youngie ()
Date: February 26, 2012 14:59

Maybe not the best but my fvorite version:




Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:05

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Youngie
Maybe not the best but my fvorite version:



The studio version(without recorded opening "Oooooh" and Clayton vocals), but with live vocals by Mick. cool smiley

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Youngie ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:05





I like this version (which everyone here has heard). Not to sure about the "horns" though.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Youngie ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:08

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His Majesty
The studio version(without recorded opening "Oooooh" and Clayton vocals), but with live vocals by Mick. cool smiley

Yeah I prefer the song this way - without Clayton's vocals. I think grinning smiley

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:09

The live versions don't capture all the instruments used in the studio version. Especially the thingmagig (I don't know what instrument is called) that is prevalent throughout the song.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:11

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Youngie
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His Majesty
The studio version(without recorded opening "Oooooh" and Clayton vocals), but with live vocals by Mick. cool smiley

Yeah I prefer the song this way - without Clayton's vocals. I think grinning smiley

Plus, Jaggers live vocal is excellent! thumbs up

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Youngie ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:15

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His Majesty
Plus, Jaggers live vocal is excellent! thumbs up

thumbs up

just don't burn me at the stake for not being in love with Clayton's vocals LOL.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:28

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Chris Fountain
The live versions don't capture all the instruments used in the studio version. Especially the thingmagig (I don't know what instrument is called) that is prevalent throughout the song.

It's actually a hollow gourd called a guiro.

I think it is played by Jimmy Miller on the studio version of Gimme Shelter.





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-26 15:54 by mitchflorida1.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:33

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Youngie
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His Majesty
Plus, Jaggers live vocal is excellent! thumbs up

thumbs up

just don't burn me at the stake for not being in love with Clayton's vocals LOL.

It's ok, sacred cows... I don't like Mick Taylor's soloing. grinning smiley

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: February 26, 2012 15:36

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mitchflorida1
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Chris Fountain
The live versions don't capture all the instruments used in the studio version. Especially the thingmagig (I don't know what instrument is called) that is prevalent throughout the song.

It's actually a hollow gourd called a guirro.

I think it is played by Jimmy Miller on the studio version of Gimme Shelter.


That's it!!! It's a crucial element of the song!! Thanks MitchFlorida1 !

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Youngie ()
Date: February 26, 2012 16:08

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His Majesty
It's ok, sacred cows... I don't like Mick Taylor's soloing. grinning smiley

Madness grinning smiley

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: 6853 ()
Date: February 26, 2012 16:16

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mitchflorida1
I have never heard this quality of guitar work from the Stones before or after in live concert. Reminds me of Eric Clapton's Layla. Is this the best or what? Charlie's drumming is really stand out on this.




this underying riff in the verse is something i have not heard before.
claptons Layla has a similar chord sequence as well, so it makes it sound even more alike..

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: February 27, 2012 03:11

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mitchflorida1
I have never heard this quality of guitar work from the Stones before or after in live concert. Reminds me of Eric Clapton's Layla. Is this the best or what? Charlie's drumming is really stand out on this.




Good version although not the best imo.But nevertheless still hope they'll release a great 72 show in their Archive serie.

Btw. - Does anybody know the guy in the video with Keith and dog at ca. 2.23?

I had to smile when I saw him in that never seen pic.His name is Thomas Beyl.
He was working for German music mag Bravo in 60's/70's doing interviews with rockstars,etc. I knew him from Dusseldorf's "Teenage-fair" and still remember his article about visiting Keith in France (but without such photos).

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: pmk251 ()
Date: February 27, 2012 03:55

This the best version? No argument from me. Except for one wander (around 3:50) Taylor stays nicely in the pocket. A brisk, powerful performance by the band with Taylor hitting some nice screaming notes. This is my favorite performance of this song from this era, but I would not mind hearing a re-working of it that keeps the studio mood. One that retains Keith's rickety, eerie riff a la Altamont.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: February 27, 2012 04:34

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tatters
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71Tele
'72 and '73 versions of this tune have never been equalled.

They've been surpassed!


Anything beats the 1972 and 1973 versions. But IMO this one so far is the best one posted on this thread.

My problem with 1972-73 versions is that Mick Taylor plays the solo's too fast with no sustain on the notes. Plus I don't like his guitar tone. This song is meant to be played slowerrrrrr. When played fast, it loses its psychedelic feel.

The 1995 version here, is slower and much better than 1972, however it is not perfect, but longer solos would have made it a gem. I think Lisa jumps in too fast to sing her part. Keith and Ronnie mesh really good here.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: February 27, 2012 04:48

You really can't compare the live version of Gimme Shelter to the studio version. Apples and avocados.

On the other hand, compare Mick Taylor's Philly performance to the version from Houston the same year (from "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rolling Stones" )

Philly is amazing. In Houston MT is not playing as well, just noodling around endlessly, thrashing for direction. 2:10 Kind of hurts my ears.








Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-27 05:17 by mitchflorida1.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 27, 2012 16:37

I like this version. Good tempo. Special end (from 5:10).




Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Captainchaos ()
Date: February 27, 2012 17:00

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kleermaker
I like this version. Good tempo. Special end (from 5:10).



great version - awful mix tho

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: February 27, 2012 17:34

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Tornandfrayed
Any pre-Vegas version that doesn´t include Lisa Fisher...

Some favorites of mine:

1969-12-06 Altamont
1972-07-07 Knoxville
1972-07-19 Boston
1972-07-21 (1st) Philadelphia
1972-07-25 (2nd) New York City
1973-02-26 Sydney
1973-09-09 London
1973-10-17 (2nd) Brussels
1975-07-13 Los Angeles
1975-07-18 Seattle

Good list, there, TornAndFrayed. I'd include Gimme Shelter from Fort Collins 1975, though.....my favourite version after London 09-09-73

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: February 27, 2012 18:01

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kleermaker
I like this version. Good tempo. Special end (from 5:10).






This is a more Jagger-centric version with a very good vocal!

Where was Charlie on this version? Either he took a holiday or the recording didn't pick up his drums.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-27 18:04 by mitchflorida1.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: straycatblues73 ()
Date: February 27, 2012 18:01

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tatters
Quote
71Tele
'72 and '73 versions of this tune have never been equalled.

They've been surpassed!
My problem with 1972-73 versions is that Mick Taylor plays the solo's too fast with no sustain on the notes. Plus I don't like his guitar tone. This song is meant to be played slowerrrrrr. When played fast, it loses its psychedelic feel.

The 1995 version here, is slower and much better than 1972, however it is not perfect, but longer solos would have made it a gem. I think Lisa jumps in too fast to sing her part. Keith and Ronnie mesh really good here.

you gotta blame keith for the fast tempo ! see also midnight rambler.
Other faster songs can work well , like dead flowers '73

That just leaves the tone of micks guitar , oh well. .

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 27, 2012 19:14

London 1973, 9-9, another nice one, as said before. Good groove. One of the best versions ever to my taste. I like Taylor's part from 3:57 on.




Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: February 27, 2012 20:41

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kleermaker
I like Taylor's part from 3:57 on.



*You like?* Is there anybody living who doesn't ?

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 27, 2012 23:28

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Erik_Snow

*You like?* Is there anybody living who doesn't ?

Hello.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: February 28, 2012 00:53

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His Majesty
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Erik_Snow

*You like?* Is there anybody living who doesn't ?

Hello.

grinning smiley

I considered one nanosecond to call your name, but then I realized you would report yourself. You didn't disappoint me!

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 28, 2012 01:04

thumbs up

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: February 28, 2012 01:25

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Erik_Snow
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kleermaker
I like Taylor's part from 3:57 on.

*You like?* Is there anybody living who doesn't ?


We aren't talking about "liking" a live version, we are talking about "loving" a version. On that basis, the Philly version is the winner.

Re: Best Version of Gimme Shelter ever?
Posted by: Captainchaos ()
Date: February 28, 2012 02:19

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kleermaker
London 1973, 9-9, another nice one, as said before. Good groove. One of the best versions ever to my taste. I like Taylor's part from 3:57 on.



for a stretched out Gimme Shelter this is up there as a contender for the best
Great playing, Great sound

any like this from 69/70/72?

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