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Although the latter day albums have been less consistant than the best ones, I think we should be proud of many of the songs the band has released, regarding their age:
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I agree with DandelionPowderman
We should be proud of many of the songs the band has released
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I agree with DandelionPowderman
We should be proud of many of the songs the band has released
then why aren't we?
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I agree with DandelionPowderman
We should be proud of many of the songs the band has released
then why aren't we?
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I agree with DandelionPowderman
We should be proud of many of the songs the band has released
then why aren't we?
T.O.U.R.I.S.T
what does that stand for?
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I agree with DandelionPowderman
We should be proud of many of the songs the band has released
then why aren't we?
T.O.U.R.I.S.T
what does that stand for?
complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied, bored middle aged person who lost the spirit of rock n roll in his life and is now ..still missing his youth - and doesnt really like the Stones anyway. -in other words: tourist.
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I agree with DandelionPowderman
We should be proud of many of the songs the band has released
then why aren't we?
T.O.U.R.I.S.T
what does that stand for?
complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied, bored middle aged person who lost the spirit of rock n roll in his life and is now ..still missing his youth - and doesnt really like the Stones anyway. -in other words: tourist.
i need to hookup and party with some of these folks...didn't realize i had company. anyone up for it?
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Words is words. You can pile on a heap of 'em, but they won't make ABB a great album. The Stones have not made a decent album since Bill left, and even the couple before that were pretty spotty.
Bridges produced three of the greatest Stones songs ever.
If you say so. I still think it sounds like an album made by a commitee, not a band.
Notice the three listed songs? Me either.
What the hell? How many friggen times do I have to list them? For the last time: Out Of Control, Saint Of Me, and "Thief"! You shouldn't have to be told! Three of the greatest songs ever! By those "in the know" that is.
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Someone please point out the "Chuck Berry boogie" on A Bigger Bang.
Unless I missed it I didn't notice any excuse for Streets Of Love.
The ladies loved Streets Of Love.
Did you read what that is in context to? Doesn't look like it. Obviously.
How many different ways can you take shots at Streets Of Love? We get it.
It's about the articles in the original post, ding dong.
It's called karma. What goes around, comes around.
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I agree with DandelionPowderman
We should be proud of many of the songs the band has released
then why aren't we?
T.O.U.R.I.S.T
what does that stand for?
complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied, bored middle aged person who lost the spirit of rock n roll in his life and is now ..still missing his youth - and doesnt really like the Stones anyway. -in other words: tourist.
i need to hookup and party with some of these folks...didn't realize i had company. anyone up for it?
Apparently believing that the latter day Stones albums are not as good as previous ones means I have lost the spirit of rock n roll and that I don't like the Stones. Who knew?
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I agree with DandelionPowderman
We should be proud of many of the songs the band has released
then why aren't we?
T.O.U.R.I.S.T
what does that stand for?
complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied, bored middle aged person who lost the spirit of rock n roll in his life and is now ..still missing his youth - and doesnt really like the Stones anyway. -in other words: tourist.
i need to hookup and party with some of these folks...didn't realize i had company. anyone up for it?
Apparently believing that the latter day Stones albums are not as good as previous ones means I have lost the spirit of rock n roll and that I don't like the Stones. Who knew?
Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
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the stones didnt die in 1977. you did.
I'm with 71 Tele here. Their muse died in the late 70s. But there is nothing strange with that. In fact they managed to stay relevant for an unusually long time - almost two decades. Few band have managed that. Time waits for no one...
Music being "relevant" has always puzzled me. What have the Stones done that have made them "relevant"?
No relevant lyrics huh ? - Highwire on the Flashpoint album was relevant song about USA selling weapons to Saddam Hussein, Bigger Bang had a relevant song Sweet Neo Con -about president Bush invading another country for oil, - attitude on those songs reminded me of Street Fightin Man - I think Sweet Neo Con was rather boring jam musicially, but lyrics on that song were still interesting and relevant, and it's a proof that Stones still had some guts to sing important lyrics and they were ready to insult the right wingers -that´s the spirit of the sixties, - rebellion - it was still there.
It´s interesting that you say:
Had they done something similar to that in 1974 when they were still defining and evoloving their sound it might be a different discussion.
..it´s like.. if they had written these songs back in the seventies they would be now hits and classics, - in other words - the songs are good, but you dont like them cause they are "new" ..in other words - you are not listening to the songs as for what they are, you are lookin for bigger value, historical value - when in fact, -lot of music lovers just enjoy a good song when they hear it, without askin validation from some nostalgic historians. You could listen to the song "It´s Only Rock N Roll" and think about lyrics. It´s dedicated to silly critics who moan..Oh it´s not as good as they used to be..blaah. Great lyrics that kinda sums up this thread for me. I happen to like Stones reggae songs - nothing wrong there.
Oh, When you write: when they chase the tail of being current and music trendsthey pretty much sound like someone imitating something that was hip 6 months ago for three weeks at best. you sound like Keith Richards in his book Life when he was writing about Mick. I agree with you and Keith on that: - it´s stupid for Mick to try to be trendy.
They dont have to do that, cause they can still rock like the did in the old days.
Funny how you think releasing a song about a "war" a year after the "war" happened is relevance. How Sweet Neo Con reminds you of Street Fighting Man is beyond me. They couldn't be more different if they wanted to. It's convenient to say it's "like" SFM because of the relation of the subject matter but that's just apples and oranges. I've never been under any impression that The Rolling Stones were concerned with "the spirit of the sixties - rebellion" since...I dunno. Was Some Girls with the lyrics about black girls rebellious? I don't think so. To me it was just a comment based on Mick's experiences.
Dangerous Beauty is commentary about the actions of what one person did during W's "war". Yet somehow not one person seemed to take notice. It may as well of been about Charles Whitman. It's also a much better song than Sweet Neo Con but no one figured that out either.
You totally missed my point about the Stones doing something trendy now compared to doing something inventive in 1974 (Fingerprint File is a great example). It's nothing to do with being "new" nor the quality of the songs - Might As Well Get Juiced, regardless of the Dust Brothers, is still a horrible song. And it certainly has nothing to do with nostalgia. It's strictly about how bad the results of being trendy are. Saint Of Me is a pretty damn good song, regardless of the production.
The lyrics in It's Only Rock'N'Roll are funny about their critics. Mick pays attention afterall. No matter - it's still a wobbly song. It's a by-the-numbers tune that became a minor hit for 'em and also became somewhat of an anthem for the Stones. Which is perfect for them back then. Now it's a tagline for NBC Dateline or the evening news with whoever. So it goes.
I was not attempting to sound like Keith in his book squawking about Mick being trendy (I read the book but I don't really recall it - perhaps it's blended in with all the other ranting he's done over the years). That's coincidence. Do you think I like it when they're trendy and the song works, like Saint Of Me, but they shouldn't be trendy when the song sucks, like Juiced? Nahhh. There's no bias with liking a band. I prefer the live version of Saint Of Me from No Security over the LP version. They played it live just fine. I don't think they really needed to do what they did on the LP version, they could've done that for real anyway so why bother? Perhaps what Keith meant to say was "Is it good? If a song is good it's a good song." The producers really have no control over that. Might As Well Get Juiced is lame period.
That's what a lot of it came down to. They did what they did with the Dust Brothers and it was pointless anyway. And they (except Mick) didn't like it. Lucky us, we got it on their second newest album forever.
You like the Stones doing reggae, the one song they did, I think it stinks. It certainly fits on BLACK AND BLUE with the whole hazed out vibe going on with that record but it's still bad. It's entertaining though. it makes me laugh. But it's not good reggae, it's bad. C-side bad. It's amazing it even made the album. There you go.
So what are you doing here - if you dont even like the Stones ?
(It´s only rock n roll is one the best Stones classics ever..)
They have more than one reggae song, - you would know that, if you were a Stones fan...but I guess youre just a tourist here. "send it to me..."
(Releasing a song about a "war" a year after the "war" happened is still relevance -in fact you can still find people who think that Iraq war was a good idea, and wars dont ever end when the soldiers go home, wars end when children are safe, secure and life goes back to normal and all is forgotten...)
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
OK, but I'm still trying to figure out how "complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied" somehow spells out T.O.U.R.I.S.T.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
OK, but I'm still trying to figure out how "complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied" somehow spells out T.O.U.R.I.S.T.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
OK, but I'm still trying to figure out how "complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied" somehow spells out T.O.U.R.I.S.T.
there are several spelling-challenged indiviuals here. i've offered remedial training classes, but to date, no takers. you just need to sorta work around the spelling errors and attempt to understand their points in the overall context of their posts.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
OK, but I'm still trying to figure out how "complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied" somehow spells out T.O.U.R.I.S.T.
there are several spelling-challenged individuals here. i've offered remedial training classes, but to date, no takers. you just need to sorta work around the spelling errors and attempt to understand their points in the overall context of their posts.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
OK, but I'm still trying to figure out how "complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied" somehow spells out T.O.U.R.I.S.T.
there are several spelling-challenged individuals here. i've offered remedial training classes, but to date, no takers. you just need to sorta work around the spelling errors and attempt to understand their points in the overall context of their posts.
I understand seitan's point perfectly: Every Stones album is as good as every other one and anyone who doesn't think so must be middle aged, boring and have lost "spirit of rock n roll". He has not made any other point that I am aware of.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
OK, but I'm still trying to figure out how "complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied" somehow spells out T.O.U.R.I.S.T.
there are several spelling-challenged individuals here. i've offered remedial training classes, but to date, no takers. you just need to sorta work around the spelling errors and attempt to understand their points in the overall context of their posts.
I understand seitan's point perfectly: Every Stones album is as good as every other one and anyone who doesn't think so must be middle aged, boring and have lost "spirit of rock n roll". He has not made any other point that I am aware of.
I´ve made several other points, - and no I never said that Every Stones album is as good as every other one - in fact Bigger Bang is much better than Undercover or Dirty Work - Why dont you check out what I have posted on this thread so you can read my points. Scroll back.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
OK, but I'm still trying to figure out how "complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied" somehow spells out T.O.U.R.I.S.T.
there are several spelling-challenged individuals here. i've offered remedial training classes, but to date, no takers. you just need to sorta work around the spelling errors and attempt to understand their points in the overall context of their posts.
I understand seitan's point perfectly: Every Stones album is as good as every other one and anyone who doesn't think so must be middle aged, boring and have lost "spirit of rock n roll". He has not made any other point that I am aware of.
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I´ve made several other points, - and no I never said that Every Stones album is as good as every other one - in fact Bigger Bang is much better than Undercover or Dirty Work - Why dont you check out what I have posted on this thread so you can read my points. Scroll back.
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Regardless of a handful of good tracks on the last three records, the overall standard is far below their earlier work, and the fact that the Stones themselves don't play much of this material speaks volumes.
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Everyone knew. I like the Stones, the past, the present and who knows - the future. I like the later days albums too, - they sound like the Stones to me, but Hey, - At least I can enjoy the fact that the guys have had long, creative career in rock n roll, So I guess I'm a Stones fan and youre not !
I still love rock n roll and with all your complaining, - I guess you lost the spirit of the music somewhere along the road to your boring middle aged life. Hahahah....
Ah, yes, and that old "you're not a real fan" chestnut. The "spirit of the music" is very much alive in all the other music I listen to, as well as in the great Rolling Stones albums I still appreciate and play after all these years into my "boring middle age life".
To disparage and insult people personally who don't happen to agree with your opinion is as predicatable is it is infantile, but lacking good arguments I certainly understand why you feel the need to resort to this lowest common denominator type of response.
i guess you find it difficult accepting yourself as a tourist. it's really not so bad, though. after visiting some of the old albums, you get to come back home and relax and reminisce and be wistful about the good old days. don't fight it. it happens to the best of us.
OK, but I'm still trying to figure out how "complaining, bitching, moaning, never satisfied" somehow spells out T.O.U.R.I.S.T.
there are several spelling-challenged individuals here. i've offered remedial training classes, but to date, no takers. you just need to sorta work around the spelling errors and attempt to understand their points in the overall context of their posts.
I understand seitan's point perfectly: Every Stones album is as good as every other one and anyone who doesn't think so must be middle aged, boring and have lost "spirit of rock n roll". He has not made any other point that I am aware of.
I´ve made several other points, - and no I never said that Every Stones album is as good as every other one - in fact Bigger Bang is much better than Undercover or Dirty Work - Why dont you check out what I have posted on this thread so you can read my points. Scroll back.
You lost me when you started personal disparagements. It is always surprising to me that someone whom I have never met presumes they know my age, what "spirit of rok n roll" I have, or other personal details. Perhaps it's psychic powers. You can like what you like - doesn't matter to me. I simply think that the last few albums are attempts to recapture past glory through using tired formulas, combined with pretty cringe-worth attempts to be "current". yes, there are a couple of good Keith ballads and a few ok rockers in there, but overall I think the Some Girls outtakes album is much better than any of the last three studio albums.
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I agree with you on the fact that yes - Some Girls outtakes album is much better than any of the last three studio albums. I agree. But I dont count that as a latter day album, when it´s bonus tracks from the past.