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elunsi
I think the "todger" comment is the least what Mick thinks about. But for an artist it is probably the worst if your partner claims to have written 95% of all songs and gives you only credit for a 5%.

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stonesrule
Love your post Fan Since 1964.

However...this to me is not just about Mick. There are other people in the band.
And Keith apparently doesn't give Charlie a call or Darryl, for example.

Guess they're all just "guys he knows from work." An example -- when you've had "serious" cancer as Charlie did you live with the worry of it coming back. Just a pleasant chat with Keith on a human level would probably have pleased Charlie. But it's all about Keith. I didn't mean for this tread and my comments to be anything but facts. I have very good memories of Keith but I like to see a little personal growth in myself and my friends. DON'T YOU?

In my life and work, I've known many music and film stars. At a certain level, they can be and act "spoiled." Sometimes it's a phase. Other times it lasts forever. I guess I just thought Keith had it in him. to "get real." And I still want to believe he will.

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stonesrule
Look back at IORR posts regarding at Keith's playing on the tour way before the accident.

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stonesrule
Love your post Fan Since 1964.

However...this to me is not just about Mick. There are other people in the band.
And Keith apparently doesn't give Charlie a call or Darryl, for example.

Guess they're all just "guys he knows from work." An example -- when you've had "serious" cancer as Charlie did you live with the worry of it coming back. Just a pleasant chat with Keith on a human level would probably have pleased Charlie. But it's all about Keith. I didn't mean for this tread and my comments to be anything but facts. I have very good memories of Keith but I like to see a little personal growth in myself and my friends. DON'T YOU?

In my life and work, I've known many music and film stars. At a certain level, they can be and act "spoiled." Sometimes it's a phase. Other times it lasts forever. I guess I just thought Keith had it in him. to "get real." And I still want to believe he will.

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Let's face it, how much of this alleged Jagger-Richards feud is us speculating and projecting? As terrible as some of the things Keith said about Mick in his book were, they were really no different than what he has been saying, in one form or another, for the past 25 years. "Brenda" could hardly have been shocked.

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stonesrule
Today, I want to join that group of people at IORR who always have ideas for what various members of The Rolling Stones should, do, think and/or say.

I respect the many good parts of Keith Richards but after I read his autobiography, I felt very disappointed in him...He can be an intelligent person who's good with words and appreciates books. But for every fascinating and honest part of "Life" there were numerous lapses of memory, misstatements, lack of honest and tasteless statements. Keith has always fostered the "rebel" image although it almost did him in on numerous occasions. If he wasn't famous as opposed to being an adult, if he hadn't collected millions of dollars for his "memories." if he were someone reading the book from an objective point of view, I don't think he'd be a fan of the central character -- himself. Since becoming "famous," he's been surrounded by enablers and hangers-on as well as loving friends and family.

My point is that as much as I'd personally enjoy seeing Keith on stage again and giving a solid performance (as opposed to relying on back up musicians) I really have had enough of "PR bullshit," endless posing for photos, arms around Jagger etc., the usual "Aren't I cool! and "Oh yes, we're going on tour..." (Get those tickets NOW."

It would be impressive to see him present himself at a major press conference as an imperfect adult who loves music and who respects his musical partner Mick Jagger.

I don't look for any apologies from Keith but it would be positive and high time if he showed some appreciation for the army of longtime fans as well as the new ones and for Mick, Charlie and others who have put up with a hell of a lot from him through the years.

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71Tele
Let's face it, how much of this alleged Jagger-Richards feud is us speculating and projecting? As terrible as some of the things Keith said about Mick in his book were, they were really no different than what he has been saying, in one form or another, for the past 25 years. "Brenda" could hardly have been shocked.

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elunsi
I think the "todger" comment is the least what Mick thinks about. But for an artist it is probably the worst if your partner claims to have written 95% of all songs and gives you only credit for a 5%.

Well MJ doesn't give a shit about all contibutions on songwriting!
I guess thats's all coming out of greed!
@#$%& Mick Jagger and his financial stuff!
Get together as a band and do someting that stands for rock and roll and not financial duties!

It's only rock and roll but we like it, like it yes we do!

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stonesrule
Today, I want to join that group of people at IORR who always have ideas for what various members of The Rolling Stones should, do, think and/or say.

I respect the many good parts of Keith Richards but after I read his autobiography, I felt very disappointed in him...He can be an intelligent person who's good with words and appreciates books. But for every fascinating and honest part of "Life" there were numerous lapses of memory, misstatements, lack of honest and tasteless statements. Keith has always fostered the "rebel" image although it almost did him in on numerous occasions. If he wasn't famous as opposed to being an adult, if he hadn't collected millions of dollars for his "memories." if he were someone reading the book from an objective point of view, I don't think he'd be a fan of the central character -- himself. Since becoming "famous," he's been surrounded by enablers and hangers-on as well as loving friends and family.

My point is that as much as I'd personally enjoy seeing Keith on stage again and giving a solid performance (as opposed to relying on back up musicians) I really have had enough of "PR bullshit," endless posing for photos, arms around Jagger etc., the usual "Aren't I cool! and "Oh yes, we're going on tour..." (Get those tickets NOW."

It would be impressive to see him present himself at a major press conference as an imperfect adult who loves music and who respects his musical partner Mick Jagger.

I don't look for any apologies from Keith but it would be positive and high time if he showed some appreciation for the army of longtime fans as well as the new ones and for Mick, Charlie and others who have put up with a hell of a lot from him through the years.

I agree somewhat!
To me the comment on "a tiny todger" should pass unnoticed in his band!
For gods sake they have been around for soon 50 years!
If the hang up is this comment then it's obvious that Jagger has no what so ever empathy with what friends say or do!
Keith is a rock and roller, whilst Mick isn't anymore!
In rock and roll you take that "insult" with a smaile and think "ok" Keith that your version of the story and then go on with it!
As I see it jagger takes it very hard and to me that a proof that Richards tells a true story! But for gods sake don't let that be an obsticle to big to get over!

Keith is one personality and the rest of the bunch is their own ones, so god damn it lite's get on the road and proove that THE ROLLING STONES are bigger than anything else!

STOP WHINING Mrs BRENDA JAGGER!

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Rip This
there are so many whiners on some of these threads that it would be easy to take a vote on who needs to leave the island.....

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Rip This
btw...Keith's got a night out planned in Nov....


Bill Clinton will present Keith Richards with the Mailer Prize for Distinguished Biography at the Norman Mailer Center’s benefit at the Mandarin Oriental on Nov. 8 ...

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stonesrule
Look back at IORR posts regarding at Keith's playing on the tour way before the accident.

I must had got lucky with 3 shows in 05, 2 in 06 before the accident and then when I went back in September 06 I didn't really hear much coming from him and sadly realized what everyone was saying.

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GeneGenie
I respect the many good parts of Keith Richards but after I read his autobiography, I felt very disappointed in him...He can be an intelligent person who's good with words and appreciates books. But for every fascinating and honest part of "Life" there were numerous lapses of memory, misstatements, lack of honest and tasteless statements.


It's called an editor.

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stonesrule
Today, I want to join that group of people at IORR who always have ideas for what various members of The Rolling Stones should, do, think and/or say.

I respect the many good parts of Keith Richards but after I read his autobiography, I felt very disappointed in him...He can be an intelligent person who's good with words and appreciates books. But for every fascinating and honest part of "Life" there were numerous lapses of memory, misstatements, lack of honest and tasteless statements. Keith has always fostered the "rebel" image although it almost did him in on numerous occasions. If he wasn't famous as opposed to being an adult, if he hadn't collected millions of dollars for his "memories." if he were someone reading the book from an objective point of view, I don't think he'd be a fan of the central character -- himself. Since becoming "famous," he's been surrounded by enablers and hangers-on as well as loving friends and family.

My point is that as much as I'd personally enjoy seeing Keith on stage again and giving a solid performance (as opposed to relying on back up musicians) I really have had enough of "PR bullshit," endless posing for photos, arms around Jagger etc., the usual "Aren't I cool! and "Oh yes, we're going on tour..." (Get those tickets NOW."

It would be impressive to see him present himself at a major press conference as an imperfect adult who loves music and who respects his musical partner Mick Jagger.

I don't look for any apologies from Keith but it would be positive and high time if he showed some appreciation for the army of longtime fans as well as the new ones and for Mick, Charlie and others who have put up with a hell of a lot from him through the years.

I agree somewhat!
To me the comment on "a tiny todger" should pass unnoticed in his band!
For gods sake they have been around for soon 50 years!
If the hang up is this comment then it's obvious that Jagger has no what so ever empathy with what friends say or do!
Keith is a rock and roller, whilst Mick isn't anymore!
In rock and roll you take that "insult" with a smaile and think "ok" Keith that your version of the story and then go on with it!
As I see it jagger takes it very hard and to me that a proof that Richards tells a true story! But for gods sake don't let that be an obsticle to big to get over!

Keith is one personality and the rest of the bunch is their own ones, so god damn it lite's get on the road and proove that THE ROLLING STONES are bigger than anything else!

STOP WHINING Mrs BRENDA JAGGER!

As far as I can tell, Mrs Brenda Jagger hasn't done any whining, although you'd hardly notice because so many people are doing it on his behalf.