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OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: January 30, 2017 22:38

8/12 — The Chelsea at The Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas — Las Vegas, Nev.
8/13 — Greek Theatre — Los Angeles, Calif.
8/15 — Ak-Chin Pavilion — Phoenix, Ariz.
8/16 — Isleta Amphitheater — Albuquerque, N.M.
8/18 — The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion — Woodlands, Texas
8/19 — Starplex Pavilion — Dallas, Texas
8/23 — Jiffy Lube Live — Bristow, Va.
8/24 — BB&T Pavilion — Camden, N.J.
8/26 — Jones Beach Theater — Wantagh, N.Y.
8/27 — Xfinity Center — Mansfield, Mass.
8/28 — PNC Bank Arts Center — Holmdel, N.J.
8/30 — Klipsch Music Center — Noblesville, Ind.
9/01 — KeyBank Pavilion — Burgettstown, Penn.
9/02 — Budweiser Stage — Toronto, Ontario
9/03 — DTE Energy Music Theatre — Detroit, Mich.
9/06 — Hollywood Casino Amphitheater — Chicago, Ill.
9/08 — Hollywood Casino Amphitheater — St. Louis, Mo.
9/09 — Blossom Music Center — Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
9/10 — Riverbend Music Center — Cincinnati, Ohio

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: January 30, 2017 22:43

Ugh, wow. Not a terrible bill at all, but I've never been a big fan of this way of touring. The sort of Foreigner/Styx/Poison/Journey/REO Speedwagon/Def Leppard summer amphitheater run. I like some of those bands but it just always seems so desperate. Seems the 70s acts try to not to 3 bands but do a double bill sort of thing. Aerosmith/Slash, Bad Company/Joe Walsh which are maybe just as desperate but IMO have a bit more integrity. Lumping Alice in with them... I don't know, I guess he fits but it seems sad. Deep Purple too, although again in this incarnation its probably what has to happen.

Just thinking out loud. I had a similar feeling when Alice OPENED for Motley Crue and I was like "really? I love Maiden but Alice is now only an opening act?" Hoping this is a money making thing he does before he hopefully gets the original band back together for a tour like he's been hinting at.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: HankM ()
Date: January 30, 2017 23:07

Fkn-A that sounds like an awesome line up.
And holy moly... look at all of those back to back to back dates, they are gonna be sore.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: January 30, 2017 23:25

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RollingFreak
Ugh, wow. Not a terrible bill at all, but I've never been a big fan of this way of touring. The sort of Foreigner/Styx/Poison/Journey/REO Speedwagon/Def Leppard summer amphitheater run. I like some of those bands but it just always seems so desperate. Seems the 70s acts try to not to 3 bands but do a double bill sort of thing. Aerosmith/Slash, Bad Company/Joe Walsh which are maybe just as desperate but IMO have a bit more integrity. Lumping Alice in with them... I don't know, I guess he fits but it seems sad. Deep Purple too, although again in this incarnation its probably what has to happen.

Just thinking out loud. I had a similar feeling when Alice OPENED for Motley Crue and I was like "really? I love Maiden but Alice is now only an opening act?" Hoping this is a money making thing he does before he hopefully gets the original band back together for a tour like he's been hinting at.
It has nothing to do with integrity...it has to do with teaming up to draw the biggest audience possible.

Fans win out when they put a quality package together. I plan on going to see this show.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: January 31, 2017 00:11

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Ugh, wow. Not a terrible bill at all, but I've never been a big fan of this way of touring. The sort of Foreigner/Styx/Poison/Journey/REO Speedwagon/Def Leppard summer amphitheater run. I like some of those bands but it just always seems so desperate. Seems the 70s acts try to not to 3 bands but do a double bill sort of thing. Aerosmith/Slash, Bad Company/Joe Walsh which are maybe just as desperate but IMO have a bit more integrity. Lumping Alice in with them... I don't know, I guess he fits but it seems sad. Deep Purple too, although again in this incarnation its probably what has to happen.

Just thinking out loud. I had a similar feeling when Alice OPENED for Motley Crue and I was like "really? I love Maiden but Alice is now only an opening act?" Hoping this is a money making thing he does before he hopefully gets the original band back together for a tour like he's been hinting at.
It has nothing to do with integrity...it has to do with teaming up to draw the biggest audience possible.

Fans win out when they put a quality package together. I plan on going to see this show.

True, although not if you've seen any of them. Cause they'll play their condensed Greatest Hits sets. Personally I'd rather see Alice solo or headlining, so I get some deeper cuts. Would feel the same about Deep Purple as well, but as I mentioned in their current incarnation I probably wouldn't go. I know it doesn't have to do with integrity, but I'd personally rather see these guys that can't fill arenas do smaller casino shows than package tours. The package tour thing has been very much what the 80s bands do.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: January 31, 2017 01:40

Meryl Streep's "Keep Playin' That Rock and Roll" was hot.
They should add Meryl to the lineup.
She is truly underrated singer.smiling smiley

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: Jah Paul ()
Date: January 31, 2017 01:40

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Personally I'd rather see Alice solo or headlining, so I get some deeper cuts.

Me, too - have no real interest in Deep Purple or Edgar.

Was kind of hoping Alice would be doing an "original band" tour this year (thought I heard they were reuniting for an album or something, unless I imagined it!)...guess that will happen later on, if it's still in the works.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: roryfaninva ()
Date: January 31, 2017 02:25

Alice's voice is still in great shape but poor old Ian Gillan sings through his nose these days.....a great set of pipes in his heyday though....

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: January 31, 2017 02:36

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Alice's voice is still in great shape but poor old Ian Gillan sings through his nose these days.....a great set of pipes in his heyday though....
Yeah, Ian sounds pretty awful, but I've never seen DP...I'd go just to see Ian, Paicey and Roger once, although Steve Morse and Don Airey are quite good and this lineup has put out some quality albums.

Alice still sounds incredible, and Nita Strauss is VERY easy on the eyes.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: January 31, 2017 02:39

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Ugh, wow. Not a terrible bill at all, but I've never been a big fan of this way of touring. The sort of Foreigner/Styx/Poison/Journey/REO Speedwagon/Def Leppard summer amphitheater run. I like some of those bands but it just always seems so desperate. Seems the 70s acts try to not to 3 bands but do a double bill sort of thing. Aerosmith/Slash, Bad Company/Joe Walsh which are maybe just as desperate but IMO have a bit more integrity. Lumping Alice in with them... I don't know, I guess he fits but it seems sad. Deep Purple too, although again in this incarnation its probably what has to happen.

Just thinking out loud. I had a similar feeling when Alice OPENED for Motley Crue and I was like "really? I love Maiden but Alice is now only an opening act?" Hoping this is a money making thing he does before he hopefully gets the original band back together for a tour like he's been hinting at.
It has nothing to do with integrity...it has to do with teaming up to draw the biggest audience possible.

Fans win out when they put a quality package together. I plan on going to see this show.

True, although not if you've seen any of them. Cause they'll play their condensed Greatest Hits sets. Personally I'd rather see Alice solo or headlining, so I get some deeper cuts. Would feel the same about Deep Purple as well, but as I mentioned in their current incarnation I probably wouldn't go. I know it doesn't have to do with integrity, but I'd personally rather see these guys that can't fill arenas do smaller casino shows than package tours. The package tour thing has been very much what the 80s bands do.
I think it's just down to not wanting to give up arena crowds, and the only way to fill up U.S. sheds is to draw from several different fanbases at once.

I've seen Alice open for Iron Maiden in an Amphitheater, Heaven and Hell (Dio-fronted Sabbath) in an arena, and headlining on Halloween night at the Boston Orpheum theater.

My guess is Alice has no issue opening for bands if it means playing in front of 10-20 thousand people, as the fact that he opened for every night of Motley Crue's farewell tour proves.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: January 31, 2017 03:06

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Personally I'd rather see Alice solo or headlining, so I get some deeper cuts.

Me, too - have no real interest in Deep Purple or Edgar.

Was kind of hoping Alice would be doing an "original band" tour this year (thought I heard they were reuniting for an album or something, unless I imagined it!)...guess that will happen later on, if it's still in the works.

No, you heard right. And in the websites announcing this tour they are all still saying thats on the docket. Hopefully thats true, but yeah annoying that I guess thats now not gonna be till early next year at the earliest cause I doubt they pull something together before this.

And yeah, Alice has no problem opening, and I have no problem with him doing it. He's made it clear over the years he'll get out there and play anyway he can, and he's probably right. Just hard to find him matched with someone of his calibre. To me, Deep Purple and Edgar Winter aren't it and he'd be the Def Leppard in a lineup with them and Poison and Styx, which has also steered me from those shows. But good on all of them for still being around.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: January 31, 2017 03:25

This news is a bit underwhelming.

I've never seen Alice Cooper and might have liked to, but never made the attempt. Hasn't he been been playing small theaters, clubs, and places like the House of Blues lately? I suppose I missed my chance for that, and I have zero interest in "Deep Purple" without Blackmore. And Edgar Winter...good guy with a couple of great early '70's tunes, but paying to see him in an ampitheater? Might be OK in a small club, but...........

Does seem sort of a desperate attempt to bring people in...count me out.

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Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: January 31, 2017 07:27

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This news is a bit underwhelming.

I've never seen Alice Cooper and might have liked to, but never made the attempt. Hasn't he been been playing small theaters, clubs, and places like the House of Blues lately? I suppose I missed my chance for that, and I have zero interest in "Deep Purple" without Blackmore. And Edgar Winter...good guy with a couple of great early '70's tunes, but paying to see him in an ampitheater? Might be OK in a small club, but...........

Does seem sort of a desperate attempt to bring people in...count me out.

Yes, Alice has and he probably still will after this. If he gets back with his original band there's no way they play arenas so I think he'll still be playing theaters. I too have wanted to see him for awhile but since they are theaters they are always just a bit more than I'd like to spend. Like $100 usually, which isn't bad, but without the original band I never pull the trigger. I'm hoping my waiting pays off.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: January 31, 2017 09:39

I have no problem with 70's bands touring like this. I saw Deep Purple in 85 on their reunion tour but I doubt I would play to see them now. However, I wouldn't mind seeing this tour. Seen Alice several times over the years, always puts on a great show and has a great band.
Recently saw Stevie Nicks/Pretenders in Vancouver. I wouldn't pay to see either on their own but both for $100 was a good deal. Have tickets for Def Lep with Poison and Tesla. Again, wouldn't pay to see any of them individually since I've seen all of them back in the 80's but all three for $100 is a good deal.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Date: January 31, 2017 10:08

A weird, but cool, bill thumbs up

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: noughties ()
Date: January 31, 2017 13:09

Alice Cooper is influenced by The Stones, they say.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: January 31, 2017 13:49

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noughties
Alice Cooper is influenced by The Stones, they say.
Alice always has good things to say about the Stones.

On a recent Chris Jericho (the wrestler and lead singer of Fozzy) podcast, Alice said he refuses to retire before Jagger, so he's going to keep going as long as Mick goes. It was pretty great.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: January 31, 2017 13:52

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Alice Cooper is influenced by The Stones, they say.
Alice always has good things to say about the Stones.

On a recent Chris Jericho (the wrestler and lead singer of Fozzy) podcast, Alice said he refuses to retire before Jagger, so he's going to keep going as long as Mick goes. It was pretty great.

Yeah, Alice has said that for several years. Alice, while still aging well, isn't quite aging vocally as good as Mick (but really, who is?). Still I agree, its good to know he's not going anywhere though, as long as Mick doesn't. Seems like Jagger and McCartney are holding that torch to see how long a rock star can really go.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: January 31, 2017 14:22

These triple bills are creative marketing tools to lump classic rock era bands together to sell tickets which is okay but the downside is when you have these types of bills you get shorter sets by the bands/artists .

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: rbk ()
Date: January 31, 2017 15:03

I've lived in the Great Lakes region for nearly sixty years where Alice is an institution. I gave up needing to see him ever again about thirty years ago BUT... last summer it was the Hollywood Vampires and a couple of years ago it was with Motley Crue and before that it was a new festival and before that a club and before that a theater in town and before that, etc, etc. He and his fencing sword and his play money and macabre props are like putting on an old pair of shoes and I will gladly do so to see Deep Purple one last time.

Now, if we could just get Ritchie Blackmore's latest Rainbow over here...

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Date: January 31, 2017 16:11

people keep saying "thats what the current deep purple has to do". trust me. even if it was the entire MKII lineup the band would be playing venues that hold less than 5,000 people here in the states.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: January 31, 2017 16:22

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people keep saying "thats what the current deep purple has to do". trust me. even if it was the entire MKII lineup the band would be playing venues that hold less than 5,000 people here in the states.
Probably, although if Ritchie and Jon Lord had rejoined the band 8-10 years ago, I bet they could have done a successful MKII reunion tour in amphitheaters.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Date: January 31, 2017 16:47

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people keep saying "thats what the current deep purple has to do". trust me. even if it was the entire MKII lineup the band would be playing venues that hold less than 5,000 people here in the states.
Probably, although if Ritchie and Jon Lord had rejoined the band 8-10 years ago, I bet they could have done a successful MKII reunion tour in amphitheaters.

i meant if the MKII lineup had stayed together instead of morse coming in around 1995

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: January 31, 2017 17:01

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people keep saying "thats what the current deep purple has to do". trust me. even if it was the entire MKII lineup the band would be playing venues that hold less than 5,000 people here in the states.
Probably, although if Ritchie and Jon Lord had rejoined the band 8-10 years ago, I bet they could have done a successful MKII reunion tour in amphitheaters.

i meant if the MKII lineup had stayed together instead of morse coming in around 1995
Ah, well yeah, that's for sure.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: wonderboy ()
Date: January 31, 2017 17:08

It harkens back to the original 50s rock and roll tours when you'd have a bunch of acts doing short sets.
Personally, I like that. Give me a great, short set and bring somebody else on.
It might be good for the performers, too. At a certain age, a lot of acts probably can't do long shows.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: January 31, 2017 18:18

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people keep saying "thats what the current deep purple has to do". trust me. even if it was the entire MKII lineup the band would be playing venues that hold less than 5,000 people here in the states.
Probably, although if Ritchie and Jon Lord had rejoined the band 8-10 years ago, I bet they could have done a successful MKII reunion tour in amphitheaters.

i meant if the MKII lineup had stayed together instead of morse coming in around 1995
Ah, well yeah, that's for sure.

Don't be so sure about that. Look at Iron Maiden - still selling out arenas across America!

Had the MKII lineup stayed together, they could have and probably would have recorded and released some vintage classic Deep Purple tunes and kept a huge fan base.
But as it is now, many people see the current DP lineup as being close to a tribute band.

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Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Date: January 31, 2017 20:08

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people keep saying "thats what the current deep purple has to do". trust me. even if it was the entire MKII lineup the band would be playing venues that hold less than 5,000 people here in the states.
Probably, although if Ritchie and Jon Lord had rejoined the band 8-10 years ago, I bet they could have done a successful MKII reunion tour in amphitheaters.

i meant if the MKII lineup had stayed together instead of morse coming in around 1995
Ah, well yeah, that's for sure.

Don't be so sure about that. Look at Iron Maiden - still selling out arenas across America!

Had the MKII lineup stayed together, they could have and probably would have recorded and released some vintage classic Deep Purple tunes and kept a huge fan base.
But as it is now, many people see the current DP lineup as being close to a tribute band.


deep purple wasn't selling out 11k places in the early 90s in the states when the mkii was still together.


Maiden plays 8k places and brings along opening acts that can draw about two thousand or so people themselves. Ghost was just playing thousand plus seat gigs and selling out

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: January 31, 2017 20:16

Maiden is WAY bigger than Deep Purple...they sell out soccer stadiums in Europe and South America, and sell out MSG every time they play the U.S. They also still have their classic '80s lineup intact (plus Janick Gers).

When Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith left, coupled with the downturn in metal popularity in the '90s, they were reduced to playing theaters in the States.

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Date: January 31, 2017 20:48

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Maiden is WAY bigger than Deep Purple...they sell out soccer stadiums in Europe and South America, and sell out MSG every time they play the U.S. They also still have their classic '80s lineup intact (plus Janick Gers).

When Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith left, coupled with the downturn in metal popularity in the '90s, they were reduced to playing theaters in the States.


maiden is on the same level now as def leppard and def leppard can not sell out msg now without other bands. Please post proof that maiden recently sold out msg with no other big named bands playing the show with them

Re: OT: Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Touring Together This Summer
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: January 31, 2017 20:56

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Maiden is WAY bigger than Deep Purple...they sell out soccer stadiums in Europe and South America, and sell out MSG every time they play the U.S. They also still have their classic '80s lineup intact (plus Janick Gers).

When Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith left, coupled with the downturn in metal popularity in the '90s, they were reduced to playing theaters in the States.


maiden is on the same level now as def leppard and def leppard can not sell out msg now without other bands. Please post proof that maiden recently sold out msg with no other big named bands playing the show with them
Wow.

I attended a sold-out Iron Maiden show at MSG in March 2016...LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO, and the only band that opened was Steve Harris' son's band (the Raven Age).

Madison Square Garden
30 March 2016
New York City
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$1,472,331

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