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LieBI kinda see what you mean, but I don't agree at all. The textures of Beggar's Banquet and Exile, just to mention but two of their masterpieces, are incredible through headphones. I've spent so many hours listening to the Stones on headphones ... Jump Back when going to bed, Handsome Girls on the train, Tattoo You on cassette while clearing weeds from the lawn ...Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
I think one rough rule of thumb I have is - the Stones are not to be listened to on headphones. If the song works on headphones, it's most likely not good Stones.
I also see what you mean. I didn't phrase it well enough. I too have listened to the Stones on headphones for thousands of hours. It sets my head swirling.
But if you are looking for Hi Fi quadrophonic stupendous separation, and stereo tricks, and panning games - the Stones are not the one. That's what I meant.
Now if you love (like me) to hear Ronnie bang the slide against the neck, a pick drop, studio chatter in between cuts, but also great rock'n roll that feeds of energy and joy, not wizardry, then the Stones are the one.
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LieBI kinda see what you mean, but I don't agree at all. The textures of Beggar's Banquet and Exile, just to mention but two of their masterpieces, are incredible through headphones. I've spent so many hours listening to the Stones on headphones ... Jump Back when going to bed, Handsome Girls on the train, Tattoo You on cassette while clearing weeds from the lawn ...Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
I think one rough rule of thumb I have is - the Stones are not to be listened to on headphones. If the song works on headphones, it's most likely not good Stones.
Isn't that something for the gardener to do, and would he be listening to the stones?
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Stoneage
Technically speaking the sound quality should have gotten better and better. Funnily it looks as the sound quality goes down when the CD is introduced. As if nothing can compare to the sound of a vinyl LP.
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drewmaster
It's fascinating that only ONE person considers A Bigger Bang to be their best-sounding album. I'm also of the opinion that it is not -- not by a long shot -- but theoretically, shouldn't it be? Here's why I suggest it should be:
1) Recording technology is continually becoming more sophisticated; more things are possible than ever before. Even if they choose not to take advantage of today's technology, any sounds they could produce in 1968, or 1973, or 1977, or 1981, they could certainly produce today, because yesterday's technology is still available today.
2) Wisdom is theoretically cumulative. Anything that Mick or Keith or anyone else knew thirty years ago they should be able to remember and apply today. For example, Keith has talked a lot about certain sounds he's discovered he can create with certain guitars.
The answer, I suppose, has to be either that they've FORGOTTEN how to create the sounds they were able to create in years past, or they're too LAZY to do so. And not having people like Jimmy Miller around doesn't help, either.
Drew
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tatters
It was difficult to do in 1968 and would be impossible to do now.
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tatters
It was difficult to do in 1968 and would be impossible to do now.
McCartney moaned even in the early 70's that you couldn't overload the channel on the recording desk because they all had limiters installed.
The Beatles were always overloading the sound, because "dirty" is good.
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drewmaster
It's fascinating that only ONE person considers A Bigger Bang to be their best-sounding album. I'm also of the opinion that it is not -- not by a long shot -- but theoretically, shouldn't it be? Here's why I suggest it should be:
1) Recording technology is continually becoming more sophisticated; more things are possible than ever before. Even if they choose not to take advantage of today's technology, any sounds they could produce in 1968, or 1973, or 1977, or 1981, they could certainly produce today, because yesterday's technology is still available today.
2) Wisdom is theoretically cumulative. Anything that Mick or Keith or anyone else knew thirty years ago they should be able to remember and apply today. For example, Keith has talked a lot about certain sounds he's discovered he can create with certain guitars.
The answer, I suppose, has to be either that they've FORGOTTEN how to create the sounds they were able to create in years past, or they're too LAZY to do so. And not having people like Jimmy Miller around doesn't help, either.
Drew
I don't think it's a question of having "forgotten" how to achieve a particular sound, it's more that once technology has moved on and advanced, it becomes difficult if not impossible to recreate an earlier sound. The sound they got on JJF and SFM, for example, was achieved by screwing with technolgy, by using it in ways you're not supposed to, deliberately trying to get a "bad" sound. It was difficult to do in 1968 and would be impossible to do now. No matter how hard you tried to fvck it up, today's technology would make it come out sounding too "good".
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drewmaster
It's fascinating that only ONE person considers A Bigger Bang to be their best-sounding album. I'm also of the opinion that it is not -- not by a long shot -- but theoretically, shouldn't it be? Here's why I suggest it should be:
1) Recording technology is continually becoming more sophisticated; more things are possible than ever before. Even if they choose not to take advantage of today's technology, any sounds they could produce in 1968, or 1973, or 1977, or 1981, they could certainly produce today, because yesterday's technology is still available today.
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drewmaster
2) Wisdom is theoretically cumulative. Anything that Mick or Keith or anyone else knew thirty years ago they should be able to remember and apply today. For example, Keith has talked a lot about certain sounds he's discovered he can create with certain guitars.
The answer, I suppose, has to be either that they've FORGOTTEN how to create the sounds they were able to create in years past, or they're too LAZY to do so. And not having people like Jimmy Miller around doesn't help, either.
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ab
The best sounding Stones albums were Some Girls through Tattoo You. The snare and bass sounds on those records should be preserved for eternity.