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organicjoe
To me, opening the vaults is for example; one disc of Honky Tonk Women. Start with the first acoustic strum take (or whatever the first idea was), all through the numerous arrangements and versions, include single instrument tracks along the way, all this chronological to the final and released version. This would be an hour of heaven.
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melillo
the vaults that i really care about are the video vaults there must be tons of footage from every tour in great quality just sitting around , i mean what the hell mick you cant take them to your grave with you
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Spodlumt
(It has something mystical, it is based on the assumption that the stones do not put their best songs on to albums, but hide them. e.g. ABB is a bad album with bad songs, but under the radar was their best song since satisfaction.)
WITHOUT QUESTION THE MOST RIDICULOUS STATEMENT EVER MADE ON THIS BOARD!
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This is what we all know from listening to the bootlegs:
A)The Stones "write songs" by endlessly noodling in the studio. Often just Keith, Mick and/or Charlie playing with a riff or a crude musical idea.
Once the concept sort of gels they'll record a 10-12 minute version of it, usually to end up with four minutes of solid performance.
C)Then, hopefully, this will inspire lyrics, a chorus and perhaps a bridge segment which will be cropped into, or overdubbed upon, the basic recording.
D) They will then add Ronnie, maybe Darryl as well as some other instruments and effects resulting in a 5-6 minute track which will then be
E)edited (often too much i.e ABB, Some Girls)to 4 minutes or so and released.
This is what we can assume is in the vaults:
See "A," above.
Hence, it's safe to conclude there ain't nuthin' IN the vaults, Certainly not anything different or any better than what we know already. The Stones are notoriously lazy in their work and creative ethic resulting in just enough material to get by, especially in the post Tattoo You era
In that case you've never heard the Some Girls Paris sessions - about 25 unreleased songs there alone. And then there's all the stuff from the 90s as well.
Plus there's loads of different version of songs from the 60s. I'd guess there must be at least 75-100 decent complete songs - be it unreleased or alt versions -that they could release.
The late '70s Paris sessions was precisely why I said they haven't worked hard SINCE the post 'Tattoo You' era. I'm aware of that inspired and final large volume of work which resulted in both Some Girls and most of Emotional Rescue along with parts of Tattoo You. I am NOT aware, however, of any finished songs from then with the possible exception of Claudine and Do You Think I Care. Like the 4-6 volumes of Voodoo outtakes everything else is elongated and often meandering jams (Miss You, Whip Comes Down, You Got Me Rockin,' Sparks) or unfinished pieces and parts. Given that BTB was the only other work from the '90s and it was essentially dualing solo albums, I'm not aware of any outtakes from that era other than Keith's preferred mix of Might As Well Get Juiced. Given how 'padded' that record is, and how arduous the conditions of its creation, it's safe to assume that had any other quality material existed it could have easily replaced Too Tight or How Can I stop. Wonderful variants of issued Steel Wheels and ABB material exist but nothing finished or previously unheard of any consequence.
I'm sure '60s material exists but what has leaked in the FOUR DECADES since is likewise just unfinished variations of already issued material which logically leads one to conclude that there is is little else to be heard.
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Sleepy City
The Rolling Stones need to do something similar to the Elvis Presley "follow that dream" series of expanded albums & soundboard concert recordings.
[www.completeelvispresley.com]
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NedKelly
The Exile outtakes was a real dissapointment, and I would prefer to keep the vaults closed. There's a reason that the songs didn't make it on the original records. I find it most enjoyable to listen to outtake bootlegs, because those are real working progress, and that is always fun to listen to. But to have the boys add guitars, new lyrics and vocals, backup vocals and stuff.... Please don't.