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"Too Rude", Live version of "Cherry of Baby"

Electric piano?

Man, not even. I did that by impulse. It was actually Rocky D's post re 'Send it to me: that made me question pretty much all of Stones Reggae-fied tunes. But 'Too Rude", now that I give it a listen seems to be organic.
But to use the word 'synth' in modern recording is almost a misnomer because chances are there is a synth just about everywhere.

Indeed.

Instead, we'll have to create a cult-thread looking for computer free-recorded tracks. That'll be hard to find..

Is my memory playing tricks on me, or is there a synth in Shattered, too?

I listened to Shattered again. Just to check. There does not seem to be any synthesizer but lots of effected guitars (MXR90?).

And then there's sex and sex and sex.

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I listened to Shattered again. Just to check. There does not seem to be any synthesizer but lots of effected guitars (MXR90?).

And then there's sex and sex and sex.

What's that beeping sound in the ending of Ronnie's solo?

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Chances are there is a synth just about everywhere live when Chuck think it's time to fill up the sound...

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Chances are there is a synth just about everywhere live when Chuck think it's time to fill up the sound...

Chuck never plays a synth.

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I listened to Shattered again. Just to check. There does not seem to be any synthesizer but lots of effected guitars (MXR90?).

And then there's sex and sex and sex.

What's that beeping sound in the ending of Ronnie's solo?

Listen here:





[www.youtube.com]

I think it is a slide guitar but it could be a synth or a musical saw.

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I listened to Shattered again. Just to check. There does not seem to be any synthesizer but lots of effected guitars (MXR90?).

And then there's sex and sex and sex.

What's that beeping sound in the ending of Ronnie's solo?

Listen here:





[www.youtube.com]

I think it is a slide guitar but it could be a synth or a musical saw.

It's not the pedal steel

The end of the phrasing gives it away: a synth (God forbid)..

100 Years Ago?

I really thought it was a pedal steel (the Hawaiian sound) at the end of Ronnie's solo.

Chuck does indeed play synth on at least "Harlem Shuffle" and "Mixed Emotions." You can hear it clearly on the 12" singles. Although Bard might have been funning me.

Scratch that, Bard meant in concert. Well, it's true the keyboards compensate for guitars at times. Playing something that sounds either like a synth guitar or a playback. Andy Wallace did the same with Ronnie's solo shows in recent years. All part of the safety net unless you want to believe that's Pierre behind a curtain or under the stage.



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I really thought it was a pedal steel (the Hawaiian sound) at the end of Ronnie's solo.

Chuck does indeed play synth on at least "Harlem Shuffle" and "Mixed Emotions." You can hear it clearly on the 12" singles. Although Bard might have been funning me.

The thing is, we can hear the pedal steel simultaneously. And it sounds very different to those sounds (coming out of nowhere) in the ending of the solo.

Yeah, Chuck is credited on various sites on synth. But shouldn't that be keyboards, to be accurate and knitpick a bit?

Or perhaps he was pushing and turning buttons, loading in and adjusting the right sequencers, to get the proper sound for that 60s soul classic? That sounds crazy to me, but who knows...

Most of the time, though, it is indeed Chuck who handles the keyboards and organs for the Stones. Matt pushes the buttons on the synthesiser.

Well, Chuck's the only one who could be on synthesizer on "Harlem Shuffle." If it was one of the band, they'd take credit somewhere. You really hear it on the 12" single and once you do, you notice a couple seconds of it on the album track. It's a pity since I love his organ work on the studio cut, but the synth sorta works. It's obviously where they tried using the Uptown Horns but correctly thought they were too overt. The synth blends with the guitars to where you hear it subconsciously. Part of what went missing in later years were those bits you can't unhear once you notice them, but went years and years without noticing them. Bits of acoustic or slide or pedal steel or synth or something Brian, Bill, Jack, or Stu did in the sixties. There were always Easter Eggs, to use an annoying modern term, hidden in plain sight.

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Well, Chuck's the only one who could be on synthesizer on "Harlem Shuffle." If it was one of the band, they'd take credit somewhere. You really hear it on the 12" single and once you do, you notice a couple seconds of it on the album track. It's a pity since I love his organ work on the studio cut, but the synth sorta works. It's obviously where they tried using the Uptown Horns but correctly thought they were too overt. The synth blends with the guitars to where you hear it subconsciously. Part of what went missing in later years were those bits you can't unhear once you notice them, but went years and years without noticing them. Bits of acoustic or slide or pedal steel or synth or something Brian, Bill, Jack, or Stu did in the sixties. There were always Easter Eggs, to use an annoying modern term, hidden in plain sight.

Yeah, I know where it is now. Between two choruses (or after a chorus?) towards the ending, no?

It's semantics, but I believe that's a keyboard playing a string sample, or something? If it's a horn sample it's a really cheap instrument

Definitely not a horn sample. I meant it takes the place in the arrangement of where brass would go.

And yes, you're correct where it's at in the song.

It might be a keyboard then as you're saying. I think of it as a synth. From that perspective, what about "Winning Ugly" or "Primitive Cool?" Are those synths or just keyboards playing programs?

I suppose I don't know the difference. Should have paid more attention to Herbie Hancock's "RockSchool" decades ago instead of laughing when every other example was Midge Ure.

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Well, Chuck's the only one who could be on synthesizer on "Harlem Shuffle." If it was one of the band, they'd take credit somewhere. You really hear it on the 12" single and once you do, you notice a couple seconds of it on the album track. It's a pity since I love his organ work on the studio cut, but the synth sorta works. It's obviously where they tried using the Uptown Horns but correctly thought they were too overt. The synth blends with the guitars to where you hear it subconsciously. Part of what went missing in later years were those bits you can't unhear once you notice them, but went years and years without noticing them. Bits of acoustic or slide or pedal steel or synth or something Brian, Bill, Jack, or Stu did in the sixties. There were always Easter Eggs, to use an annoying modern term, hidden in plain sight.

Yeah, I know where it is now. Between two choruses (or after a chorus?) towards the ending, no?



It's semantics, but I believe that's a keyboard playing a string sample, or something? If it's a horn sample it's a really cheap instrument

Exactly, re.'semantics'. After 86 keys are pretty much what a synth was/is. Once MIDI and samples were in every keyboard, there we are.
"Back to Zero" and "Winning Ugly" are definitely synth heavy. The main guitar riff in "Winning" is a synth double.
But I was gong to post about 'Shattered" - I do not hear a synth at all. What is interesting about that transition is that Ronnie has another slide guitar coming in from underneath the pedal steel to smoosh that whole thing back into the groove.

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Well, Chuck's the only one who could be on synthesizer on "Harlem Shuffle." If it was one of the band, they'd take credit somewhere. You really hear it on the 12" single and once you do, you notice a couple seconds of it on the album track. It's a pity since I love his organ work on the studio cut, but the synth sorta works. It's obviously where they tried using the Uptown Horns but correctly thought they were too overt. The synth blends with the guitars to where you hear it subconsciously. Part of what went missing in later years were those bits you can't unhear once you notice them, but went years and years without noticing them. Bits of acoustic or slide or pedal steel or synth or something Brian, Bill, Jack, or Stu did in the sixties. There were always Easter Eggs, to use an annoying modern term, hidden in plain sight.

Yeah, I know where it is now. Between two choruses (or after a chorus?) towards the ending, no?



It's semantics, but I believe that's a keyboard playing a string sample, or something? If it's a horn sample it's a really cheap instrument

Exactly, re.'semantics'. After 86 keys are pretty much what a synth was/is. Once MIDI and samples were in every keyboard, there we are.
"Back to Zero" and "Winning Ugly" are definitely synth heavy. The main guitar riff in "Winning" is a synth double.
But I was gong to post about 'Shattered" - I do not hear a synth at all. What is interesting about that transition is that Ronnie has another slide guitar coming in from underneath the pedal steel to smoosh that whole thing back into the groove.

What do you hear in the left channel in the clip I posted? Listen closely to the last note. Sounds like a synth "vibrato", no?

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Chances are there is a synth just about everywhere live when Chuck think it's time to fill up the sound...

Chuck never plays a synth.

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Keyboard if you prefer.

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Chances are there is a synth just about everywhere live when Chuck think it's time to fill up the sound...

Chuck never plays a synth.

There is a difference between Fender Rhodes (which he is using in concert to beef up the riffs) and a synth.

Chances are there is a keyboard just about everywhere live when Chuck think it's time to fill up the sound..

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Chances are there is a keyboard just about everywhere live when Chuck think it's time to fill up the sound..

Yeah, maybe he'll do the opening riffs as well...

He already did.

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He already did.

Yeah, on She's A Rainbow..

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Well, Chuck's the only one who could be on synthesizer on "Harlem Shuffle." If it was one of the band, they'd take credit somewhere. You really hear it on the 12" single and once you do, you notice a couple seconds of it on the album track. It's a pity since I love his organ work on the studio cut, but the synth sorta works. It's obviously where they tried using the Uptown Horns but correctly thought they were too overt. The synth blends with the guitars to where you hear it subconsciously. Part of what went missing in later years were those bits you can't unhear once you notice them, but went years and years without noticing them. Bits of acoustic or slide or pedal steel or synth or something Brian, Bill, Jack, or Stu did in the sixties. There were always Easter Eggs, to use an annoying modern term, hidden in plain sight.

Yeah, I know where it is now. Between two choruses (or after a chorus?) towards the ending, no?



It's semantics, but I believe that's a keyboard playing a string sample, or something? If it's a horn sample it's a really cheap instrument

Exactly, re.'semantics'. After 86 keys are pretty much what a synth was/is. Once MIDI and samples were in every keyboard, there we are.
"Back to Zero" and "Winning Ugly" are definitely synth heavy. The main guitar riff in "Winning" is a synth double.
But I was gong to post about 'Shattered" - I do not hear a synth at all. What is interesting about that transition is that Ronnie has another slide guitar coming in from underneath the pedal steel to smoosh that whole thing back into the groove.

What do you hear in the left channel in the clip I posted? Listen closely to the last note. Sounds like a synth "vibrato", no?

I don't hear it. And I can't imagine the Stones o/d a synth just to boost a transition from solo; esp. in '78. But just because I don't hear it, doesn't mean it isn't there. I trust your ear Dandy.
Often crazy overtones and reverberations create new sounds. Like anyone playing in a band in small room at hi volume knows.
Or it's like that crazy Trombone on "Carol" that no one can really pin down.

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Well, Chuck's the only one who could be on synthesizer on "Harlem Shuffle." If it was one of the band, they'd take credit somewhere. You really hear it on the 12" single and once you do, you notice a couple seconds of it on the album track. It's a pity since I love his organ work on the studio cut, but the synth sorta works. It's obviously where they tried using the Uptown Horns but correctly thought they were too overt. The synth blends with the guitars to where you hear it subconsciously. Part of what went missing in later years were those bits you can't unhear once you notice them, but went years and years without noticing them. Bits of acoustic or slide or pedal steel or synth or something Brian, Bill, Jack, or Stu did in the sixties. There were always Easter Eggs, to use an annoying modern term, hidden in plain sight.

Yeah, I know where it is now. Between two choruses (or after a chorus?) towards the ending, no?



It's semantics, but I believe that's a keyboard playing a string sample, or something? If it's a horn sample it's a really cheap instrument

Exactly, re.'semantics'. After 86 keys are pretty much what a synth was/is. Once MIDI and samples were in every keyboard, there we are.
"Back to Zero" and "Winning Ugly" are definitely synth heavy. The main guitar riff in "Winning" is a synth double.
But I was gong to post about 'Shattered" - I do not hear a synth at all. What is interesting about that transition is that Ronnie has another slide guitar coming in from underneath the pedal steel to smoosh that whole thing back into the groove.

What do you hear in the left channel in the clip I posted? Listen closely to the last note. Sounds like a synth "vibrato", no?

I don't hear it. And I can't imagine the Stones o/d a synth just to boost a transition from solo; esp. in '78. But just because I don't hear it, doesn't mean it isn't there. I trust your ear Dandy.
Often crazy overtones and reverberations create new sounds. Like anyone playing in a band in small room at hi volume knows.
Or it's like that crazy Trombone on "Carol" that no one can really pin down.

Those three notes are crazy, but fitting. And I don't mean in a Woody on pedal steel or slide guitar-kinda way

The sound being described in shattered reminds me of a kind of a high pitched sound on the last part of She Was Hot. Could this be synth?



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Matt Clifford's synth harp on Miss You ...

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Ohh Good that's right. Thanks for reminding me.