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Keith has demonstrated his idiocy many times over the years. Showing people the blade, showing people the gun, nearly killing himself numerous times, shooting Mick's guitar and throwing parrots out of windows.Quote
slew
If Keith is an idiot send me the prescription!!
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Had to make a point. If you like the Stones you really have to like both Glimmer Twins!
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Palace Revolution 2000
The thread has wandered off to Keith.
Maybe we should ask what is a rebel? Someone who rejects authority? A mutineer against the powers that be? Someone who refutes any allegiance?
I have to say that in the early years there is no doubt Jagger was a rebel. And I come back to the fact that before anything had happened, before there were any Rolling Stones - Jagger was actively pursuing the Blues. Against the grain; going with his blood.
I guess it's the latter years that make some doubt Jagger's rebel status.
How does a rebel end up then? What does a rebel eventually end up doing? If he has rebelled enough, and ...won? I mean, Jagger basically won.[/[/b]quote]
you @#$%& nailed it. he was a rebel, and was part of the change. he did his bit, and shouldn't be expected to be a rebel in his late 60's.
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slew
Show him the blade is kind of funny actually. It fits his image. Did he ever really show anyone the blade though? I mean really he is a skinny little runt that most people if he showed them the blade they'd disarm him and kick his arse if he was not Keith Richards!
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kowalski
[www.mickjaggerbiography.com]Quote
"The best of Jagger playlist"
Jagger: Rebel, Rock Star, Rambler, Rogue is a look at Mick Jagger as you have never seen him before. From bluesy teenager to hardened legendary rocker, Jagger explores the highs and lows of over 50 years of rock n’ roll (with a little glam rock, punk rock, soul music and cocktail party mixed in). Combine with author Marc Spitz’s “Best of Jagger” playlist and you will find yourself on the Mick side of the Glimmer Twins.
1. “Down the Road Apiece” (1965)
A great example of Mick’s improbably credible interpretation (and with his own Cockney affects, hybridization) of the African American vocal style. In less than two minutes, The Rolling Stones version of Amos Milburn’s boogie woogie party starter, made it forever-okay for scrawny white boys to sing lustily about chicken cooked in bacon grease.
2. “As Tears Go By” (1965)
In ’64, Mick and Keith were reluctant to bring this “girly” ballad to the other Rolling Stones and gave it to Marianne Faithfull instead. By ’65, pop seemed to require emotional sophistication and baroque melancholy overnight and Mick bravely manned up to his female side. This is the bridge song, allowing the Stones to compete with the Beatles, Dylan and the Kinks.
3. “Memo From Turner” (1970)
Memo to Turner: keep it in your pants. Why doesn’t Keith Richards appear on what might have been the Rolling Stones’ contribution to the soundtrack for Mick’s film debut, the perverse and still brilliant British gangster film Performance? As they say on Facebook, it’s complicated. Co-star Anita Pallenberg, provocateur director Donald Cammell, enough drug casualties to fully stock a Victorian loony bin all contribute to the first and still un-mended rift between Mick and Keith. But at least we have this gem with Ry Cooder’s sinister guitar and disturbing, cut and paste lyrics indebted to William S. Burroughs. Great on its own but definitely check out the video.
4. “You’re So Vain” (1972)
He comes in on the second verse, just after the guitar solo. He’s not credited, but it was impossible to hear Carly Simon’s number one single and not know who the mystery man was. Maybe the song is about Warren Beatty, maybe it’s about Kris Kristofferson or James Taylor. But the singing… is all about Mick Jagger. The hands down highlight of the Stones early to mid 70s “flakey” period (thanks Lester Bangs).
5. “(You’ve Gotta Walk) Don’t Look Back” (1979)
What do you do when the punks call you a ponce dinosaur and put you on their villians list? You make an album full of stonking, two and a half minute songs about heroin and hustling, and for insurance, you align yourself with the Stepping Razor himself, the Toughest of the Tough, Mr. Peter Tosh; who got crazy respect from even the most vicious of punk rockers. Mick did both and somehow survived the rampant iconoclasm. This reggae-fied version of the Temptations classic is cynical synergy, or if you prefer, image damage control and a little kitschy but the sheer star power of the two makes it a must.
6. “State of Shock” (1984)
At the time Michael Jackson could have guzzled a liter of Pepsi and belched the alphabet and it would have moved vinyl. A song from his teenage years “Farewell My Summer Love” was a top 10 hit. He’d sung the hook on Rockwell’s “Somebody’s Watching Me’ (later immortalized in a Geico insurance commercial) and the track went to number 2. This, however, was the best of the post-Thriller cash in singles; a sexed up Stonesy-riff stunt cast with a real Stone. Mick replaced Freddie Mercury (no small feat) and made the track his own.
7. “Evil” (1993)
Over a year before Rick Rubin patented his stripped down/return to form approach with Johnny Cash and later, Neil Diamond, he paired Mick with Hollywood bar band The Red Devils for a never-released album full of Mick’s favorite blues songs, like this Howling Wolf classic. Evil is goin’ on!
8. “Streets of Berlin” (1997)
During the opening scene of the brutal and homoerotic, Holocaust-set 1997 indie film Bent, Mick croons this cabaret ballad in Dietrich drag, while swinging on an oversized parakeet perch, out decadence-ing and out-Berlin-ing his old cohort David Bowie in one fell (and actual) swoop.
9. “Sweet Neo Con” (2005)
In ’68, Mick marched with the students in protest of the Vietnam War and wrote “Street Fighting Man” in the offing. A decade on, with Thatcher in power, many assumed he’d long made peace with the establishment. Which is why this, easily the most explicit and angry protest song of the Iraq War era, shocked many fans. Hypocritical Christians, Halliburton and W. and Cheney get the gimlet eye.
10. “Pass the Wine (Sophia Loren)” (2010)
Senior citizen revisits undisputed 40 year old masterpiece, armed with digital technology, under pressure to stimulate catalog and somehow does not suck. One marvel of the new Exile on Main Street tracks (this the War-indebted, funky highlight) is that they did nothing to sully the legacy. The other = makes you wanna dance.
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71Tele
What about killing a librarian's orchid with second-hand cigarette smoke, then putting his ciggy out in the flowerpot? He's now gone too far!
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71Tele
This list is a joke. First of all, the throwaway track "Pass The Wine" instead of the brilliant "Plundered My Soul"? And "You're So vain" was the Stones highlight of the early to mid 70s? And for fucksakes SWEET NEO CON? It may be explicit and angry, but that doesn't make it a good song.
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71Tele
This list is a joke. First of all, the throwaway track "Pass The Wine" instead of the brilliant "Plundered My Soul"? And "You're So vain" was the Stones highlight of the early to mid 70s? And for fucksakes SWEET NEO CON? It may be explicit and angry, but that doesn't make it a good song.
Yeah, this list deflates the author's credibility slightly.
I love some of these songs, "Memo From Turner etc.., but no Exile, no Some Girls, virtually nothing between 70-82 except "State of Shock"?
We're in for another babble of a book.[/[/b]quote]
It would seem so...
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GravityBoy
"I don't want to step out onstage with someone wearing a coronet and sporting the old ermine," Richards told British music magazine "Uncut" in an expletive-rich interview.
"I told Mick it's a paltry honor...It's not what the Stones is about, is it?"
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kowalski
[www.mickjaggerbiography.com]Quote
"The best of Jagger playlist"
Jagger: Rebel, Rock Star, Rambler, Rogue is a look at Mick Jagger as you have never seen him before. From bluesy teenager to hardened legendary rocker, Jagger explores the highs and lows of over 50 years of rock n’ roll (with a little glam rock, punk rock, soul music and cocktail party mixed in). Combine with author Marc Spitz’s “Best of Jagger” playlist and you will find yourself on the Mick side of the Glimmer Twins.
1. “Down the Road Apiece” (1965)
A great example of Mick’s improbably credible interpretation (and with his own Cockney affects, hybridization) of the African American vocal style. In less than two minutes, The Rolling Stones version of Amos Milburn’s boogie woogie party starter, made it forever-okay for scrawny white boys to sing lustily about chicken cooked in bacon grease.
2. “As Tears Go By” (1965)
In ’64, Mick and Keith were reluctant to bring this “girly” ballad to the other Rolling Stones and gave it to Marianne Faithfull instead. By ’65, pop seemed to require emotional sophistication and baroque melancholy overnight and Mick bravely manned up to his female side. This is the bridge song, allowing the Stones to compete with the Beatles, Dylan and the Kinks.
3. “Memo From Turner” (1970)
Memo to Turner: keep it in your pants. Why doesn’t Keith Richards appear on what might have been the Rolling Stones’ contribution to the soundtrack for Mick’s film debut, the perverse and still brilliant British gangster film Performance? As they say on Facebook, it’s complicated. Co-star Anita Pallenberg, provocateur director Donald Cammell, enough drug casualties to fully stock a Victorian loony bin all contribute to the first and still un-mended rift between Mick and Keith. But at least we have this gem with Ry Cooder’s sinister guitar and disturbing, cut and paste lyrics indebted to William S. Burroughs. Great on its own but definitely check out the video.
4. “You’re So Vain” (1972)
He comes in on the second verse, just after the guitar solo. He’s not credited, but it was impossible to hear Carly Simon’s number one single and not know who the mystery man was. Maybe the song is about Warren Beatty, maybe it’s about Kris Kristofferson or James Taylor. But the singing… is all about Mick Jagger. The hands down highlight of the Stones early to mid 70s “flakey” period (thanks Lester Bangs).
5. “(You’ve Gotta Walk) Don’t Look Back” (1979)
What do you do when the punks call you a ponce dinosaur and put you on their villians list? You make an album full of stonking, two and a half minute songs about heroin and hustling, and for insurance, you align yourself with the Stepping Razor himself, the Toughest of the Tough, Mr. Peter Tosh; who got crazy respect from even the most vicious of punk rockers. Mick did both and somehow survived the rampant iconoclasm. This reggae-fied version of the Temptations classic is cynical synergy, or if you prefer, image damage control and a little kitschy but the sheer star power of the two makes it a must.
6. “State of Shock” (1984)
At the time Michael Jackson could have guzzled a liter of Pepsi and belched the alphabet and it would have moved vinyl. A song from his teenage years “Farewell My Summer Love” was a top 10 hit. He’d sung the hook on Rockwell’s “Somebody’s Watching Me’ (later immortalized in a Geico insurance commercial) and the track went to number 2. This, however, was the best of the post-Thriller cash in singles; a sexed up Stonesy-riff stunt cast with a real Stone. Mick replaced Freddie Mercury (no small feat) and made the track his own.
7. “Evil” (1993)
Over a year before Rick Rubin patented his stripped down/return to form approach with Johnny Cash and later, Neil Diamond, he paired Mick with Hollywood bar band The Red Devils for a never-released album full of Mick’s favorite blues songs, like this Howling Wolf classic. Evil is goin’ on!
8. “Streets of Berlin” (1997)
During the opening scene of the brutal and homoerotic, Holocaust-set 1997 indie film Bent, Mick croons this cabaret ballad in Dietrich drag, while swinging on an oversized parakeet perch, out decadence-ing and out-Berlin-ing his old cohort David Bowie in one fell (and actual) swoop.
9. “Sweet Neo Con” (2005)
In ’68, Mick marched with the students in protest of the Vietnam War and wrote “Street Fighting Man” in the offing. A decade on, with Thatcher in power, many assumed he’d long made peace with the establishment. Which is why this, easily the most explicit and angry protest song of the Iraq War era, shocked many fans. Hypocritical Christians, Halliburton and W. and Cheney get the gimlet eye.
10. “Pass the Wine (Sophia Loren)” (2010)
Senior citizen revisits undisputed 40 year old masterpiece, armed with digital technology, under pressure to stimulate catalog and somehow does not suck. One marvel of the new Exile on Main Street tracks (this the War-indebted, funky highlight) is that they did nothing to sully the legacy. The other = makes you wanna dance.
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proudmary
There is another list on Amazon.com. I think he wanted to be creative on the first one
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Here are Spitz's 10 favorite Jagger vocal performances (in order).
1. "That’s How Strong My Love Is" (1965)
Anyone who says the dude has no soul needs to dig this one out. You can’t fake blood and Mick’s broken heart bleeds all over the track. While you can’t beat Otis Redding’s version from the same year, Mick and the Stones come very close.
2. "Moonlight Mile" (1971)
Simply the greatest comedown record of all time, as if the someone finally turned the light on at long and perilous 60s cocktail party and everyone started to shiver and scheme at once. Keith is famously absent but Micks Jagger and Taylor craft an inimitable mood full of dread, resolve and unmatched beauty.
3. "Emotional Rescue" (1980)
More a new wave disco suite than anything else, the title track of the Stones’ seventeenth (!) album features three great Mick vocals: a cartoon mouse falsetto, a gleefully smarmy drawl and finally, a stentorian, spoken vow to cross the desert on Arabian horseback and somehow end up at Studio 54 before last call.
4. "Shattered" (1978)
Three words: "Shmatta, shmatta, shmatta."
5. "The Spider and the Fly" (1965)
Who else can infuse a lyric like: "Down to the bar at the place I’m at..." with Hitchcock-ian suspense and sexy mischief? Something amoral is about to happen. Less an ode to the famous Mary Howitt poem and more a warning (that none of his women seemed to heed) that a spider will be a spider.
6. "I Can’t Get No Satisfaction" (1965)
So overplayed it’s underplayed. You don’t listen to it as much as you should because you think you know it, but have another (loud) date with it and be reminded (as last season’s Mad Men demonstrated) why it’s the greatest rock and roll recording of all time.
7. "Lady Jane" (1967)
Quietly elegant, terribly English, with the late, great Brian Jones’ lacework dulcimer and Mick’s least camp (or perhaps most) vocals ever.
8. "Ventilator Blues" (1972)
Slathered with echo and heavier than metal, this is one of the few places on record where Mick sounds like he might be able to kick your ass without a security team. Exile on Main Street purists can’t really abide including this without a nod to it’s segue song, the gospel great, "I Just Wanna See His Face."
9. "Too Much Blood" (1983)
Featuring Mick’s cockney "rap" (this was after all, the era when every respectable British rock god from Joe Strummer to Adam Ant, Captain Sensible and Malcolm McLaren released a rap record) about a Japanese pal who ate his Parisian girlfriend and buried her bones in the Bois de Boulogne. Not the greatest protest song ever written, but, musically, at least, certainly the Rolling Stones greatest (and only) Duran Duran homage.
10. "Country Honk" (1969)
Rock’s greatest mimic can turn on a Jamaican patois (see 1976’s "Hot Stuff" ) and, most consistently an African American blues baritone (see every Rolling Stones record up to Aftermath), but he seems to get the most pleasure from channeling the hard r’s and elongated vowels of our country "sang-errrs." The more famous single version (with more cowbell to boot) contains a straight forward rock vocal but this album track (off Let It Bleed) is more fun than a jar full of spit.
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hbwriter
song picks aside, the guy can, in my opinion, write - he's funny, his references are sharp - and he's enjoying himself. This might be a fun read.