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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
So your saying that when he was asked in 89 to join The Stones he should of said no? That doesnt make sense? Ruined the sound? Not the sound tech? Not the mixer? Not Mick or Keith that would stop anything if they didn't like it? Strange comment.
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
So your saying that when he was asked in 89 to join The Stones he should of said no? That doesnt make sense? Ruined the sound? Not the sound tech? Not the mixer? Not Mick or Keith that would stop anything if they didn't like it? Strange comment.
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
Typical response from someone who is clearly not a musician and just sits and watching the wheels and put down everything that is not an aquired taste.
Firstly, in the late eighties The Stones had a lot to prove. They needed to update themselves to be relevant again and that included a more polished sound, to attract a contemporary audience.
Secondly, you put all the blame on one man. He was not responsible for The Stones' decision to move away from the normally rougher sound. Everyone had realised, according to Jagger, that things had changed and the standards were higher regarding timing and playing. They could not just play like they did in 1981/82 this time. That Clifford played the keyboards, had nothing to do with The Stones' choices. If they didn't like what he was doing to the sound, they had given him the boot, which they obviously didn't do.
Thirdly, he needs some respect, as he is the guy on the recent tours, who has presented them, played diverse keyboards and french-horn, plus he is the one who keeps things together for Keith during his set, when the latter from time to time, gets confused over his own songs.
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
Typical response from someone who is clearly not a musician and just sits and watching the wheels and put down everything that is not an aquired taste.
Firstly, in the late eighties The Stones had a lot to prove. They needed to update themselves to be relevant again and that included a more polished sound, to attract a contemporary audience.
Secondly, you put all the blame on one man. He was not responsible for The Stones' decision to move away from the normally rougher sound. Everyone had realised, according to Jagger, that things had changed and the standards were higher regarding timing and playing. They could not just play like they did in 1981/82 this time. That Clifford played the keyboards, had nothing to do with The Stones' choices. If they didn't like what he was doing to the sound, they had given him the boot, which they obviously didn't do.
Thirdly, he needs some respect, as he is the guy on the recent tours, who has presented them, played diverse keyboards and french-horn, plus he is the one who keeps things together for Keith during his set, when the latter from time to time, gets confused over his own songs.
Yes, that French horn brought the tour to a whole new level...
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
Typical response from someone who is clearly not a musician and just sits and watching the wheels and put down everything that is not an aquired taste.
Firstly, in the late eighties The Stones had a lot to prove. They needed to update themselves to be relevant again and that included a more polished sound, to attract a contemporary audience.
Secondly, you put all the blame on one man. He was not responsible for The Stones' decision to move away from the normally rougher sound. Everyone had realised, according to Jagger, that things had changed and the standards were higher regarding timing and playing. They could not just play like they did in 1981/82 this time. That Clifford played the keyboards, had nothing to do with The Stones' choices. If they didn't like what he was doing to the sound, they had given him the boot, which they obviously didn't do.
Thirdly, he needs some respect, as he is the guy on the recent tours, who has presented them, played diverse keyboards and french-horn, plus he is the one who keeps things together for Keith during his set, when the latter from time to time, gets confused over his own songs.
Yes, that French horn brought the tour to a whole new level...
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
Typical response from someone who is clearly not a musician and just sits and watching the wheels and put down everything that is not an aquired taste.
Firstly, in the late eighties The Stones had a lot to prove. They needed to update themselves to be relevant again and that included a more polished sound, to attract a contemporary audience.
Secondly, you put all the blame on one man. He was not responsible for The Stones' decision to move away from the normally rougher sound. Everyone had realised, according to Jagger, that things had changed and the standards were higher regarding timing and playing. They could not just play like they did in 1981/82 this time. That Clifford played the keyboards, had nothing to do with The Stones' choices. If they didn't like what he was doing to the sound, they had given him the boot, which they obviously didn't do.
Thirdly, he needs some respect, as he is the guy on the recent tours, who has presented them, played diverse keyboards and french-horn, plus he is the one who keeps things together for Keith during his set, when the latter from time to time, gets confused over his own songs.
Yes, that French horn brought the tour to a whole new level...
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Ignorant is right. Its a comment from a person that has no idea whats going on.
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JTHanis
If I'm "ignorant" for feeling that way, so be it. It's par for the course on this board nowadays that someone who doesn't share the views promulgated by the leader and the personalit cult around him is put down.
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JTHanis
If I'm "ignorant" for feeling that way, so be it. It's par for the course on this board nowadays that someone who doesn't share the views promulgated by the leader and the personalit cult around him is put down.
No worries mate, I actually thought your comment was funny. Matt is probably the only guy in history to play a french horn at a major rock show. You've at least got to give the guy credit for not calling up a french horn patch on his keyboard and playing the real thing instead.....now if we could only get Chuck on a real piano.
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Captain Teague
He ruined their sound on the Urban Jungle tour, so he should do us a favour and keep well away, even if he is a nice guy and full of enthusiasm.
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BILLPERKS
Matt is Mick's talented yes man.
Im sure he's a nice fellow.
But I could have done without his Stones related presence.
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crawdaddy
Matt Clifford is a genuinely nice bloke and a very ,very good musician.
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Rik
Took him 25 years, from bow to bow
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crawdaddy
Matt Clifford is a genuinely nice bloke and a very ,very good musician.
This is also my impression.
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Blueranger
What can Clifford contribute to The Stones?
I'll tell you: He can keep track of things and holding things together on stage and behind it. So many times he has saved Keith and Charlie's butt when they can't keep time. It's probably why they have hired him again. Sorry, but those so-called 'Stones-Fans' who puts Clifford down because he interrupts their glorified picture of The Stones, will have to think again. Live with the fact, that they now need other musicians to keep it together, while they are performing.