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Possibly the Stones worst album pre-Dirty Work.
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how could a band this successful make such a poorly produced album?
-1 there is nothing wrong with this album...better than GHS.
NOT better than GHS. At least that record had some songs with actual feeling: 100 Years Ago, Winter, Coming Down Again. Not so with IORR, which had a few rock throwaways, a stale ballad, a fairly mediocre Motown cover, an ok funk workout, and possibly their weakest single to date.
No rockers on GHS are better than IYCRM, imo.
I too think that CDA is better than the ballads on IORR, but do you really find TWFNO stale?
And FF is WAY better than 100 Years Ago, imo.
Still, I like GHS the most, but that´s mainly due to the horrendous sound on IORR.
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straycatblues73
im amazed by the lack of appreciation here especially for Short & Curlies - whats not to like ?
a great , fun song , good harmonies , keith at his very best ,funny lyrics .
dance LS is a great one taker.
aint too PTB nice version, amazing originality in keiths solo. maybe they should finish the covers album
the ballads are all good.
luxury, another fun song with phony accent.
and FINGERPRINT FILE ,how can you not love this song ? fantastic arrangement, great closer.
more comedy songs on this album than before, just sit back and enjoy them.
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im amazed by the lack of appreciation here especially for Short & Curlies - whats not to like ?
a great , fun song , good harmonies , keith at his very best ,funny lyrics .
dance LS is a great one taker.
aint too PTB nice version, amazing originality in keiths solo. maybe they should finish the covers album
the ballads are all good.
luxury, another fun song with phony accent.
and FINGERPRINT FILE ,how can you not love this song ? fantastic arrangement, great closer.
more comedy songs on this album than before, just sit back and enjoy them.
What's not to like about Short & Curlies? It's very, very weak songwriting. Lazy.
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KeefintheNight82
What are the Bsides and outakes from this one?
If 'Through the Lonely Nights' is from this album, I think it's better than several songs on the album and could have been a good one if included.
What about 'waiting on a friend'? Is it an outtake from this album?
Possibly could have been some stronger stuff on the album.
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Havo
well, for me its their no.4 in the seventies--behind "sticky"-"Exile"-and "Some Girls"
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Context is important too. Goats Head Soup was seen as a less than successful album, somewhat like Emotional Rescue being the followup to Some Girls. Goats Head Soup succeeded Exile and the expectations were high. Goats Head Soup was kind of dismissed, with a lot of good will given the band for the four masterful albums that had preceded it. Therefore 'It's Only Rock and Roll' was anticipated as a makeup for Goats Head Soup. But it simply couldn't live up to what people had expected of the Rolling Stones. I think if we were honest with ourselves, they never would be better than Exile.
As the single for the album, IORR was also slammed as not being in the league of their last major hit, Angie, which was a world wide smash. The album did lack some of the depth of even Goats Head Soup. IORR's followup, Black and Blue, was a bigger head scratcher for fans, with no hit single, and only 8 cuts! It wasn't until Some Girls that they regained some of their aura. But looking back, IORR is a much better album than generally agreed upon. It's biggest sin was not being in the same golden circle of the Stones' earlier work.
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Context is important too. Goats Head Soup was seen as a less than successful album, somewhat like Emotional Rescue being the followup to Some Girls. Goats Head Soup succeeded Exile and the expectations were high. Goats Head Soup was kind of dismissed, with a lot of good will given the band for the four masterful albums that had preceded it. Therefore 'It's Only Rock and Roll' was anticipated as a makeup for Goats Head Soup. But it simply couldn't live up to what people had expected of the Rolling Stones. I think if we were honest with ourselves, they never would be better than Exile.
As the single for the album, IORR was also slammed as not being in the league of their last major hit, Angie, which was a world wide smash. The album did lack some of the depth of even Goats Head Soup. IORR's followup, Black and Blue, was a bigger head scratcher for fans, with no hit single, and only 8 cuts! It wasn't until Some Girls that they regained some of their aura. But looking back, IORR is a much better album than generally agreed upon. It's biggest sin was not being in the same golden circle of the Stones' earlier work.
I thought Fool To Cry was a big hit single?
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Context is important too. Goats Head Soup was seen as a less than successful album, somewhat like Emotional Rescue being the followup to Some Girls. Goats Head Soup succeeded Exile and the expectations were high. Goats Head Soup was kind of dismissed, with a lot of good will given the band for the four masterful albums that had preceded it. Therefore 'It's Only Rock and Roll' was anticipated as a makeup for Goats Head Soup. But it simply couldn't live up to what people had expected of the Rolling Stones. I think if we were honest with ourselves, they never would be better than Exile.
As the single for the album, IORR was also slammed as not being in the league of their last major hit, Angie, which was a world wide smash. The album did lack some of the depth of even Goats Head Soup. IORR's followup, Black and Blue, was a bigger head scratcher for fans, with no hit single, and only 8 cuts! It wasn't until Some Girls that they regained some of their aura. But looking back, IORR is a much better album than generally agreed upon. It's biggest sin was not being in the same golden circle of the Stones' earlier work.
I thought Fool To Cry was a big hit single?
"Fool to Cry" stalled in the top 10 in their two biggest markets (North America and Europe) whereas "Angie" was a massive #1 throughout the world; along with "Satisfaction," and "Honky Tonk Women" it's their most successful single, and the biggest hit they ever had in Europe.
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Context is important too. Goats Head Soup was seen as a less than successful album, somewhat like Emotional Rescue being the followup to Some Girls. Goats Head Soup succeeded Exile and the expectations were high. Goats Head Soup was kind of dismissed, with a lot of good will given the band for the four masterful albums that had preceded it. Therefore 'It's Only Rock and Roll' was anticipated as a makeup for Goats Head Soup. But it simply couldn't live up to what people had expected of the Rolling Stones. I think if we were honest with ourselves, they never would be better than Exile.
As the single for the album, IORR was also slammed as not being in the league of their last major hit, Angie, which was a world wide smash. The album did lack some of the depth of even Goats Head Soup. IORR's followup, Black and Blue, was a bigger head scratcher for fans, with no hit single, and only 8 cuts! It wasn't until Some Girls that they regained some of their aura. But looking back, IORR is a much better album than generally agreed upon. It's biggest sin was not being in the same golden circle of the Stones' earlier work.
I thought Fool To Cry was a big hit single?
"Fool to Cry" stalled in the top 10 in their two biggest markets (North America and Europe) whereas "Angie" was a massive #1 throughout the world; along with "Satisfaction," and "Honky Tonk Women" it's their most successful single, and the biggest hit they ever had in Europe.
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Top 10 is a big hit single. Certainly not a "no hit single", imo.
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well, for me its their no.4 in the seventies--behind "sticky"-"Exile"-and "Some Girls"
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Palace Revolution 2000
It must've been the times. That nembutal sound, engineers. producers and musicians on narcotics - and everything sounds hazy.
Most of the songs are pretty good, but could do with a remastering. You want to go in there with some windex, and clear off that film. And the songs could do with an infusion of tempo. Snare needs some spark. getr id of Rebop. Switch "Curlies" out for "Through the Lonely Nights".
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DandelionPowderman
The album is re-mastered, and it still sounds muddy. A re-mix would have done the trick, imo.
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jamesfdouglas
I hear Mick trying really hard on this album, and someone else watching their teeth rot waiting for another fix.