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guitarbastard
i only know it from youtube clips and i'm always speechless when i see and hear how they played. outstanding! technicaly as good as on steel/urban but rougher and dirtier. real rock n roll! just imagine if those gigs were filmed for "shine a light"...
damned.
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alimente
History repeats itself. They keep their greatest gigs away from the public and release, if anything at all, only some snippets on official albums: El Mocambo, Paradiso.
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TooTough
Unfortunately they hired chicks in a disco to reaplace the
bad and the ugly front row. That shadow will last forever
on those shows.
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alimente
History repeats itself. They keep their greatest gigs away from the public and release, if anything at all, only some snippets on official albums: El Mocambo, Paradiso.
Indeed. Wish I could talk to Jagger, personally, and tell him to get his finger out, and do what "he should do", releasing-wise. But apart from the fact that Jagger isnot communicating with me (apart from when it comes to choices of Shampoo-labels), the whole band doesn't give a crap about reprospective releases, or you (or me) "old fans" who wishes to re-live what we experienced back then. This is the only policy I can can think of which makes me "understad" "Mick's decions".
Jagger was a real clever guy in the late 60s, and the 70s.....yes; I agree; the 80s as well. You ask about the 90s?
[everything afterwards is edited. I wrote 2-3 pages more. But I deleted it all - god bless]
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guitarbastard
how much is actualy available of those gigs?
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alimente
If the 80's Jagger-Richards fight was made up just to make us all believe the Stones were finished as a band, only to make us buy the 1989/1990 "reunion" tour tickets en masse and to treat a good, but not great "reunion" album Steel Wheels as a new masterpiece, then Jagger was indeed super clever-clever still in the 80's. In the 90's, he (and Keith, of course) wanted us to believe that the Stones were still a "current" band, but Bridges To Babylon was their last album that mattered, at least somewhat. It's only that we did not notice it until 8 or so years later when ABB came out... And these 8 years after Bridges was the last period of time that could have generated sufficient amounts of income with archive releases. And what happened? Nothing. NOT CLEVER! Now it's simply too late. They could earn the same income they had with this Exile reissue with just one gig!!! But that's EXILE! Whereas Mocambo or Paradiso on CD or DVD would earn them just an expensive dinner or two. Unless Mick will do it for the glory, I doubt that there is any motivation to dig that deep into the archives. What can we expect from the UMG deal that's already half over? Some Girls deluxe and possibly Sticky Fingers deluxe. And that's it. That's most probably as deep archive digging as it will get.
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The Stones
It sure would be a treat if these gigs were to be released.
Only thing negative about these shows - Jagger used a low flow shower head at the hotel in Amsterdam
Gotta agree with this one. It's always a major turn off when your heroes use them darn low flow gizmos.
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Whale
Remember this so well. It was crazy.
I guess I was not so well-informed at the time. So I was waiting for the radio to announce where the presale would be. I lived in the center of town. So when it was stated that the presales were at the Melkweg never in my life have I raced so fast on my bike to the Melkweg. I remember racing along the Keizersgracht and seeing people jump out of their houses to do what I was doing.
Only to arrive at the Melkweg, to find out that 10,000 had gotten there earlier...
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TooTough
Unfortunately they hired chicks in a disco to reaplace the
bad and the ugly front row. That shadow will last forever
on those shows.
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dcba
Slightly OT but can the Dutch IORRers confirm the 2nd Paradiso tape (the exc+ one) was taped inside or outside? (that is front of the screen)
Thx!
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Whale
Remember this so well. It was crazy.
I guess I was not so well-informed at the time. So I was waiting for the radio to announce where the presale would be. I lived in the center of town. So when it was stated that the presales were at the Melkweg never in my life have I raced so fast on my bike to the Melkweg. I remember racing along the Keizersgracht and seeing people jump out of their houses to do what I was doing.
Only to arrive at the Melkweg, to find out that 10,000 had gotten there earlier...
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And the horrible people from public radio. All of them had a ticket of course, and so many people who really cared were left out, while the radio people were giving themselves a party. Apparently they were even handing out tickets to the cleaners there. Don't know if that was true, but it was pre-internet and all these media people and journalists and representatives of course all thought they were entitled to have something that they were basically taking away from the real fans. Don't know how other people feel about it, but that's how I felt about it.