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DiscoVolanteI think Keith mentions something about Honky Tonk Women in Life how Charlie really shines on that track. Not that it really matters when discussing taste but its worth adding that detail.Quote
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And, there's something else that never felt right: Charlie's drumming in the intro and first verse. To me, it lacks his famous swing. It's a bit butch, pounding just a tad too hard. For years I have doubt it actually is Charlie and Jimmy Miller instead. I still feel awkward about it.Quote
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One thing that can be said about Honky Tonk Women is that it's one of Charlie Watt's best performances. That intro where he just seems to fall in is brilliant in its own simplicity and the beat that follows is precise as a heartbeat.
can someone address this conflict?
Sure no conflict, just my opinion. I find the same with Jigsaw Puzzle and Let it Bleed. These tracks also have a less-than-normal swinging Watts in my opinion.
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And, there's something else that never felt right: Charlie's drumming in the intro and first verse. To me, it lacks his famous swing. It's a bit butch, pounding just a tad too hard. For years I have doubt it actually is Charlie and Jimmy Miller instead. I still feel awkward about it.Quote
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One thing that can be said about Honky Tonk Women is that it's one of Charlie Watt's best performances. That intro where he just seems to fall in is brilliant in its own simplicity and the beat that follows is precise as a heartbeat.
can someone address this conflict?
Sure no conflict, just my opinion. I find the same with Jigsaw Puzzle and Let it Bleed. These tracks also have a less-than-normal swinging Watts in my opinion.
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yes, but saying that it's a track where charlie shines and where he doesn't play like he usually he does are not necessarily different... in other words, keith may agree with Mathijs that it's not charlie's usual style on "HTW," but that the elements that disappoint Mathijs are actually what keith would prefer all the time. Think of how he'd go on about charlie if he played that way more often!
but actually, I think it's probably just that keith is going along with the conventional opinion there--since everyone remembers that opening drum beat, so does keith.
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It's perfect, of course.
The main guitar part is brilliant. Alchemy. Beyond great...and I still can't f'n play it the same as the record!
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slew
The song is absolutely one of their best - I am not and never have been really impressed with the live versions. The drums NEVER sound right!
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The song is absolutely one of their best - I am not and never have been really impressed with the live versions. The drums NEVER sound right!
LOVE YOU LIVE - supreme. Thousand times better than the studio version.
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The previous posting of the video above reminds me that there's a little fill that Keith played nearly every time on the 75-76 versions of HTW that I've never heard him play on any other tours before or since. It's the simplest thing, but I absolutely love it.
You can hear it in this video at the 1:22 - 1:25 mark, right after Keith joins Jagger for the chorus. It's about 8 notes, and it's just a cool little fill. And most versions from 75-76 have this little fill after the chorus. At one time I recorded this little snippet (from a '75 show, I think) back-to-back, over and over, making myself about a 5-minute long tape of just this short 8-note segment over and over.
(I've done that for so many parts of so many Stones songs that people must think I'm nuts, just listening to one little bit over and over...but I like it!)
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I love HTW and gets me going each morning alongside my coffee.
are you saying you listen to it every day? Wow...
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Note that it's Honky Tonk Women. Occasionally shows up on releases / set lists as Honky Tonk Woman
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rocker1
The previous posting of the video above reminds me that there's a little fill that Keith played nearly every time on the 75-76 versions of HTW that I've never heard him play on any other tours before or since. It's the simplest thing, but I absolutely love it.
You can hear it in this video at the 1:22 - 1:25 mark, right after Keith joins Jagger for the chorus. It's about 8 notes, and it's just a cool little fill. And most versions from 75-76 have this little fill after the chorus. At one time I recorded this little snippet (from a '75 show, I think) back-to-back, over and over, making myself about a 5-minute long tape of just this short 8-note segment over and over.
(I've done that for so many parts of so many Stones songs that people must think I'm nuts, just listening to one little bit over and over...but I like it!)
That little segment is brilliant. One of my favorites.
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The previous posting of the video above reminds me that there's a little fill that Keith played nearly every time on the 75-76 versions of HTW that I've never heard him play on any other tours before or since. It's the simplest thing, but I absolutely love it.
You can hear it in this video at the 1:22 - 1:25 mark, right after Keith joins Jagger for the chorus. It's about 8 notes, and it's just a cool little fill. And most versions from 75-76 have this little fill after the chorus. At one time I recorded this little snippet (from a '75 show, I think) back-to-back, over and over, making myself about a 5-minute long tape of just this short 8-note segment over and over.
(I've done that for so many parts of so many Stones songs that people must think I'm nuts, just listening to one little bit over and over...but I like it!)
That little segment is brilliant. One of my favorites.
He sort of does it on the Hampton version. It's a little turn around lick that totally fits. It's a great little twist on LOVE YOU LIVE for sure.
On the URBAN JUNGLE tour boot July 7 it sounds like Ronnie playing it!
The New Orleans VOODOO boot I have Keith kind of does it.
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I bow to your greater wisdom in this stuff Mathijs .
Doesn't sound like a true hollow body to me...but I'm not very good at identifying guitars through the amps they used around that time .
Do you think he used the Hi Watt in the studio as well ?