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WTF?
How do you know this or are you speculating. Studio remakes of classic hits, why would they do that?
One Last Shot is a Talk is Cheap outtake, not a 'new' track.
Mathijs
There is really a lot of people here that always know exactly what will happen. Just ask them and they will tell you exactly where and when will the next leg of the tour start.
Uuuuh, then it's only 4 newly written songs in nearly a decade since A Bigger Bang - thanks for the correction. Then again, if the remaining three are exactly "newly written" or remakes of older ideas or outtakes from god-knows-when remains to be seen when they actually release them.
Well, they sold us enough live remakes of their classic hits so far, so why not studio remakes for a change?
hahahahahahahah
Good One Alimente!!!!!!!
I wet myself when i readit.
Great stuff !!
jeroen
Nice. But why not just remove the audience noise from the live recording and call it a new studio remake? It would save them a lot of time.
Be careful what you wish for! They might jump on your idea when they get aware of it!
Btw, they did it before and it created a great result - the promo only version of Out Of Control - recorded live at MSG, having all audience noises removed.
Absolutely! What's really missing in my collection is a "Greatest Hits Of The New Millennium-collection", consisting of "Don't Stop", "Streets Of Love" and "Doom & Gloom". A 3 track EP, could be cheap for a change! Plus the Super Deluxe Edition with the b-sides, "Plundered My Soul" and "No Spare Parts" and a giant poster showing Mick and Keith sharing the same mic from the Beacon Theatre show for us sentimental superfans - not so cheap, but we're used to it by now.
Never read/heard that before, nothing comes close on the circulating TIS outtakes either, so what's your source ?
As for the OP's question, dunno, having new studio tracks for Highwire really didn't make much sense...I think Mick had that backing track from the SW sessions (or so he told RS at the time) on which he slapped on some lyrics and someone (certanly doens't sound like Keith or Ronnie) threw in a nice solo. Winging it, Glimmer Twins style!
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Whoa whoa whoa...I'm not sure any of those songs you name are that great...how would they fit on a greatest hits EP? Isn't that false advertising?
Look...all these songs are one either Forty Licks or GRRR!, which are greatest hits collections, therefore they must be greatest hits.
Get with the program!
False advertising? Not really. See, it's "Greatest Hits Of The New Millenium"!
Btw, we already have a new greatest hits-thingy already...other bands would have called it "Greatest Hits Live", but the Stones creative marketing department titled it "Sweet Summer Sun"!
I think it's time they broke into uncharted territory and just started compiling the compilations, since so many of them are out of print and those original mixes are now unavailable.
"Best of Hot Rocks to GRRR!"
"Hot Rocks and Cold Comps"
"Greatest Hits from the Greatest Comps"
and for the Deluxe version:
"50 Mixes of 20 Hits"
My preference would be to see "50 Previously Licked" as the compilation of compilations.
That's got legs baby.
I really really like the direction your taking this...I really do...#3 being the obvious winner..."50 Hits To The Body (of work)" was what I was going with, but not anymore...
But are they 'great'...are they in Canada?
The only thing that is considered great is the Great White North....
For us bastards?
I've been unable to locate any sources to verify this. All that's been mentioned according to any online sources is that this track was the result of the 2011 sessions with Steve Jordan, one of the "two or three tracks" Keith mentioned he was working on at the time.
Does that go so far back? Mamma mia...
Mick: "Okay, we need two new tracks to spice up the collection. I just made a few to warm up myself for the tour, and I think one is suitable for that. Keith, you had any?"
Keith: "Surely, mate. The antenna's out all the time."
[Then flies back home to check the vaults... "damn, nothing here or here... A BIGGER BANG? what was that?.. did I do anything? Seemingly not...LICKS... some unworked jams and Ronnie's stuff....shit,there must be something more .. no.. BRIDGES.. no... VOODOO.. no no.... MAIN OFFENDER... oh no fvck no.... yes! dammit! there is it, one from TALK IS CHEAP sessions. I knew it! I knew it! There had to be something!"]
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-09-10 12:23 by Doxa.
He didn't bother using one of his NEW tracks he cut with Steve Jordan, tracks that some people here at IORR actually have heard, and thought sounded great
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No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Send It To me
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Date: September 9, 2013 04:57
Any conclusions to be drawn that they didn't knock out another couple of new cuts for this release? I was hopeful there would be a quick trip to the studio, a la Flashpoint.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
alimente
()
Date: September 9, 2013 05:41
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: September 9, 2013 07:23
Quote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
WTF?
How do you know this or are you speculating. Studio remakes of classic hits, why would they do that?
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: September 9, 2013 10:24
Quote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
One Last Shot is a Talk is Cheap outtake, not a 'new' track.
Mathijs
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Happy24
()
Date: September 9, 2013 10:42
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
WTF?
How do you know this or are you speculating. Studio remakes of classic hits, why would they do that?
There is really a lot of people here that always know exactly what will happen. Just ask them and they will tell you exactly where and when will the next leg of the tour start.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
greenriver
()
Date: September 9, 2013 10:47
I agree and they will give you the setlist, ticket price and flights numbers to reach their shows.Quote
Happy24Quote
treaclefingersQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
WTF?
How do you know this or are you speculating. Studio remakes of classic hits, why would they do that?
There is really a lot of people here that always know exactly what will happen. Just ask them and they will tell you exactly where and when will the next leg of the tour start.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
alimente
()
Date: September 9, 2013 17:09
Quote
MathijsQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
One Last Shot is a Talk is Cheap outtake, not a 'new' track.
Mathijs
Uuuuh, then it's only 4 newly written songs in nearly a decade since A Bigger Bang - thanks for the correction. Then again, if the remaining three are exactly "newly written" or remakes of older ideas or outtakes from god-knows-when remains to be seen when they actually release them.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
alimente
()
Date: September 9, 2013 17:11
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
WTF?
How do you know this or are you speculating. Studio remakes of classic hits, why would they do that?
Well, they sold us enough live remakes of their classic hits so far, so why not studio remakes for a change?
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
runrudolph
()
Date: September 9, 2013 17:17
Quote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
hahahahahahahah
Good One Alimente!!!!!!!
I wet myself when i readit.
Great stuff !!
jeroen
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: September 9, 2013 19:38
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alimenteQuote
treaclefingersQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
WTF?
How do you know this or are you speculating. Studio remakes of classic hits, why would they do that?
Well, they sold us enough live remakes of their classic hits so far, so why not studio remakes for a change?
Nice. But why not just remove the audience noise from the live recording and call it a new studio remake? It would save them a lot of time.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 9, 2013 19:46
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
runrudolph
()
Date: September 9, 2013 20:10
Quote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
alimente
()
Date: September 9, 2013 22:29
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
alimenteQuote
treaclefingersQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
WTF?
How do you know this or are you speculating. Studio remakes of classic hits, why would they do that?
Well, they sold us enough live remakes of their classic hits so far, so why not studio remakes for a change?
Nice. But why not just remove the audience noise from the live recording and call it a new studio remake? It would save them a lot of time.
Be careful what you wish for! They might jump on your idea when they get aware of it!
Btw, they did it before and it created a great result - the promo only version of Out Of Control - recorded live at MSG, having all audience noises removed.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
alimente
()
Date: September 9, 2013 22:47
Quote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
Absolutely! What's really missing in my collection is a "Greatest Hits Of The New Millennium-collection", consisting of "Don't Stop", "Streets Of Love" and "Doom & Gloom". A 3 track EP, could be cheap for a change! Plus the Super Deluxe Edition with the b-sides, "Plundered My Soul" and "No Spare Parts" and a giant poster showing Mick and Keith sharing the same mic from the Beacon Theatre show for us sentimental superfans - not so cheap, but we're used to it by now.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
gotdablouse
()
Date: September 9, 2013 23:02
Quote
MathijsQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
One Last Shot is a Talk is Cheap outtake, not a 'new' track.
Mathijs
Never read/heard that before, nothing comes close on the circulating TIS outtakes either, so what's your source ?
As for the OP's question, dunno, having new studio tracks for Highwire really didn't make much sense...I think Mick had that backing track from the SW sessions (or so he told RS at the time) on which he slapped on some lyrics and someone (certanly doens't sound like Keith or Ronnie) threw in a nice solo. Winging it, Glimmer Twins style!
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Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 9, 2013 23:04
Quote
alimenteQuote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
Absolutely! What's really missing in my collection is a "Greatest Hits Of The New Millennium-collection", consisting of "Don't Stop", "Streets Of Love" and "Doom & Gloom". A 3 track EP, could be cheap for a change! Plus the Super Deluxe Edition with the b-sides, "Plundered My Soul" and "No Spare Parts" and a giant poster showing Mick and Keith sharing the same mic from the Beacon Theatre show for us sentimental superfans - not so cheap, but we're used to it by now.
Whoa whoa whoa...I'm not sure any of those songs you name are that great...how would they fit on a greatest hits EP? Isn't that false advertising?
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: September 9, 2013 23:10
Quote
MunichhiltonQuote
alimenteQuote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
Absolutely! What's really missing in my collection is a "Greatest Hits Of The New Millennium-collection", consisting of "Don't Stop", "Streets Of Love" and "Doom & Gloom". A 3 track EP, could be cheap for a change! Plus the Super Deluxe Edition with the b-sides, "Plundered My Soul" and "No Spare Parts" and a giant poster showing Mick and Keith sharing the same mic from the Beacon Theatre show for us sentimental superfans - not so cheap, but we're used to it by now.
Whoa whoa whoa...I'm not sure any of those songs you name are that great...how would they fit on a greatest hits EP? Isn't that false advertising?
Look...all these songs are one either Forty Licks or GRRR!, which are greatest hits collections, therefore they must be greatest hits.
Get with the program!
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
alimente
()
Date: September 10, 2013 02:36
Quote
MunichhiltonQuote
alimenteQuote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
Absolutely! What's really missing in my collection is a "Greatest Hits Of The New Millennium-collection", consisting of "Don't Stop", "Streets Of Love" and "Doom & Gloom". A 3 track EP, could be cheap for a change! Plus the Super Deluxe Edition with the b-sides, "Plundered My Soul" and "No Spare Parts" and a giant poster showing Mick and Keith sharing the same mic from the Beacon Theatre show for us sentimental superfans - not so cheap, but we're used to it by now.
Whoa whoa whoa...I'm not sure any of those songs you name are that great...how would they fit on a greatest hits EP? Isn't that false advertising?
False advertising? Not really. See, it's "Greatest Hits Of The New Millenium"!
Btw, we already have a new greatest hits-thingy already...other bands would have called it "Greatest Hits Live", but the Stones creative marketing department titled it "Sweet Summer Sun"!
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: September 10, 2013 03:13
Quote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
I think it's time they broke into uncharted territory and just started compiling the compilations, since so many of them are out of print and those original mixes are now unavailable.
"Best of Hot Rocks to GRRR!"
"Hot Rocks and Cold Comps"
"Greatest Hits from the Greatest Comps"
and for the Deluxe version:
"50 Mixes of 20 Hits"
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: September 10, 2013 03:16
Quote
stoneheartedQuote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
I think it's time they broke into uncharted territory and just started compiling the compilations, since so many of them are out of print and those original mixes are now unavailable.
"Best of Hot Rocks to GRRR!"
"Hot Rocks and Cold Comps"
"Greatest Hits from the Greatest Comps"
and for the Deluxe version:
"50 Mixes of 20 Hits"
My preference would be to see "50 Previously Licked" as the compilation of compilations.
That's got legs baby.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 10, 2013 03:30
Quote
stoneheartedQuote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
I think it's time they broke into uncharted territory and just started compiling the compilations, since so many of them are out of print and those original mixes are now unavailable.
"Best of Hot Rocks to GRRR!"
"Hot Rocks and Cold Comps"
"Greatest Hits from the Greatest Comps"
and for the Deluxe version:
"50 Mixes of 20 Hits"
I really really like the direction your taking this...I really do...#3 being the obvious winner..."50 Hits To The Body (of work)" was what I was going with, but not anymore...
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 10, 2013 03:31
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
alimenteQuote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
Absolutely! What's really missing in my collection is a "Greatest Hits Of The New Millennium-collection", consisting of "Don't Stop", "Streets Of Love" and "Doom & Gloom". A 3 track EP, could be cheap for a change! Plus the Super Deluxe Edition with the b-sides, "Plundered My Soul" and "No Spare Parts" and a giant poster showing Mick and Keith sharing the same mic from the Beacon Theatre show for us sentimental superfans - not so cheap, but we're used to it by now.
Whoa whoa whoa...I'm not sure any of those songs you name are that great...how would they fit on a greatest hits EP? Isn't that false advertising?
Look...all these songs are one either Forty Licks or GRRR!, which are greatest hits collections, therefore they must be greatest hits.
Get with the program!
But are they 'great'...are they in Canada?
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Blueranger
()
Date: September 10, 2013 03:56
Haven't you discovered that we are reaching the end of the band's lifetime? They are old men with nothing to prove. I'm glad they are even still playing concerts.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: September 10, 2013 04:03
Quote
MunichhiltonQuote
treaclefingersQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
alimenteQuote
Munichhilton
I'm looking forward to the next greatest hits compilation...it's been awhile...
Absolutely! What's really missing in my collection is a "Greatest Hits Of The New Millennium-collection", consisting of "Don't Stop", "Streets Of Love" and "Doom & Gloom". A 3 track EP, could be cheap for a change! Plus the Super Deluxe Edition with the b-sides, "Plundered My Soul" and "No Spare Parts" and a giant poster showing Mick and Keith sharing the same mic from the Beacon Theatre show for us sentimental superfans - not so cheap, but we're used to it by now.
Whoa whoa whoa...I'm not sure any of those songs you name are that great...how would they fit on a greatest hits EP? Isn't that false advertising?
Look...all these songs are one either Forty Licks or GRRR!, which are greatest hits collections, therefore they must be greatest hits.
Get with the program!
But are they 'great'...are they in Canada?
The only thing that is considered great is the Great White North....
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
OzHeavyThrobber
()
Date: September 10, 2013 04:08
Didn't know that about "One last shot". Wonder why Keith didn't use it for his second solo out or the Stones for VL which it would have fitted in nicely to me finks.
Not that it matters but I was never hot on the idea of tacking on a cpl new songs that started with Flashpoint if I'm not mistaken.
40 Licks would have been better with other hits like "As tears go by", "Waiting on a friend", "Harlem shuffle" and "Little red rooster" (or something like that) and having "Don't stop" as a single release only to promote the album and tour.
Same with the ones on Grrr. But anyways.
Not that it matters but I was never hot on the idea of tacking on a cpl new songs that started with Flashpoint if I'm not mistaken.
40 Licks would have been better with other hits like "As tears go by", "Waiting on a friend", "Harlem shuffle" and "Little red rooster" (or something like that) and having "Don't stop" as a single release only to promote the album and tour.
Same with the ones on Grrr. But anyways.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: September 10, 2013 04:37
Quote
Blueranger
I'm glad they are even still playing concerts.
For us bastards?
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: September 10, 2013 04:49
Quote
Mathijs
One Last Shot is a Talk is Cheap outtake, not a 'new' track.
Mathijs
I've been unable to locate any sources to verify this. All that's been mentioned according to any online sources is that this track was the result of the 2011 sessions with Steve Jordan, one of the "two or three tracks" Keith mentioned he was working on at the time.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: September 10, 2013 12:20
Quote
MathijsQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
One Last Shot is a Talk is Cheap outtake, not a 'new' track.
Mathijs
Does that go so far back? Mamma mia...
Mick: "Okay, we need two new tracks to spice up the collection. I just made a few to warm up myself for the tour, and I think one is suitable for that. Keith, you had any?"
Keith: "Surely, mate. The antenna's out all the time."
[Then flies back home to check the vaults... "damn, nothing here or here... A BIGGER BANG? what was that?.. did I do anything? Seemingly not...LICKS... some unworked jams and Ronnie's stuff....shit,there must be something more .. no.. BRIDGES.. no... VOODOO.. no no.... MAIN OFFENDER... oh no fvck no.... yes! dammit! there is it, one from TALK IS CHEAP sessions. I knew it! I knew it! There had to be something!"]
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-09-10 12:23 by Doxa.
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 10, 2013 12:26
Quote
DoxaQuote
MathijsQuote
alimente
They have written 5 songs since A Bigger Bang (nearly a decade ago!), 2 of them were already used on GRRRR! and they need to save the other three new ones for their next studio album which will (apart from these three) consist of studio remakes of their classic hits.
One Last Shot is a Talk is Cheap outtake, not a 'new' track.
Mathijs
Does that go so far back? Mamma mia...
Mick: "Okay, we need two new tracks to spice up the collection. I just made a few to warm up myself for the tour, and I think one is suitable for that. Keith, you had any?"
Keith: "Surely, mate. The antenna's out all the time."
[Then flies back home to check the vaults... "damn, nothing here or here... A BIGGER BANG? what was that?.. did I do anything? Seemingly not...LICKS... some unworked jams and Ronnie's stuff....shit,there must be something more .. no.. BRIDGES.. no... VOODOO.. no no.... MAIN OFFENDER... oh no fvck no.... yes! dammit! there is it, one from TALK IS CHEAP sessions. I knew it! I knew it! There had to be something!"]
- Doxa
He didn't bother using one of his NEW tracks he cut with Steve Jordan, tracks that some people here at IORR actually have heard, and thought sounded great
Re: No new tracks on Hyde Park CD
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: September 10, 2013 12:43
If One More Shot comes from Talk Is Cheap, then that just shows how TIC would not have worked as a Stones album--at the very least, it would have ended up as Talk Is At A Super Discounted Rate, because in Mick Jagger's hands and at his stubborn insistence, tracks like Take It So Hard would have wound up overproduced what with being drenched in those late 80s production values Mick was so fond of at the time.
Compare the sounds and production of Primitive Cool with Talk Is Cheap and ask yourself, how do you really want a Stones album to sound--gutsy and raw, or gimmicky flavor of the month?
Compare the sounds and production of Primitive Cool with Talk Is Cheap and ask yourself, how do you really want a Stones album to sound--gutsy and raw, or gimmicky flavor of the month?
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