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69firebird
From what I read, the Grateful Dead were scheduled to play before the Rolling Stones.When they decided not to play,there was a long gap before the Rolling Stones
came on stage. This added to the tension already there from the Hells Angeles.Which in turn added more fuel to the fire.Even though this concert had major problems,I would love to see a video of the entire show.
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Rolling Hansie
VideoJames ... that name rings a bell to me. Is it in Bill German's book ?
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VideoJames
As we all know the Dead who were scheduled to close the show that night did not play.
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VideoJames
As we all know the Dead who were scheduled to close the show that night did not play.
In his book Searching For The Sound, Grateful Dead bassist Phil Lesh said the Dead were scheduled to play before the Stones.
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Obviously there are differing stories. Just cited Lesh's.
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2000 LYFH
I don't know what to believe!
This article says - Grateful Dead was scheduled to perform after Jefferson Airplane, but refused, leaving the rowdy audience to wait for the Rolling Stones to take the stage.
[voices.yahoo.com]
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2000 LYFH
I don't know what to believe!
This article says - Grateful Dead was scheduled to perform after Jefferson Airplane, but refused, leaving the rowdy audience to wait for the Rolling Stones to take the stage.
[voices.yahoo.com]
Let's believe the Gimme Shelter movie. The lawyer Mel Belli seems to be working on behalf of The Rolling Stones in getting the free concert set up and organizing backers to host the venue--he's even got Stones staff people in his office.
Also, it was Mick Jagger who hired "security" in the form of HAs. If they weren't the headliner, then why would they be attending to such a detail?
Below is a link to an archive article from Rolling Stone detailing a lawsuit filed in the wake of Altamont. In the article, the event is referred to as "the Rolling Stones' free concert at Altamont...."
Article at: [www.rollingstone.com]
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2000 LYFH
This was SF (home of the Dead) after all...
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Aquamarine
In the context of that sort of festival
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VideoJames
The entire show exist on film as does the audio. a private video 3+ hrs exist of the whole festival, I have seen the video and it's in B/W. I have the Stones segment only. There is also a couple of private 8mm home movies and a 1/2 hour TV news special that was aired the next day on local TV. Euro radio(French)also did a live broadcast of the show also that exist (in good quality). Some of the Maysles film reels were lost (stolen?) that day, some one out there has them. Also a alternate cut of Gimmie Shelter movie was made that also got lost this one had the Stones performing "Midnight Rambler" in it with cut aways of Keith rolling a joint backstage. Maysles never did get the film back.
Anyone seen it around, I tracked to Fla. but then lost my lead to it.
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VideoJames
Some Peope have asked whether Brian Jones played on HTW, He may have contributed
something to a very very early take of Country Honk. An interview with BJ's father his father talked of Brian having played a Early demo of HTW to him and Brian was very excited about it. Whether Jones played on this demo is anyones guess (but you would think he must have played something if he was excited about the new track).
Mick Taylor although anounced as the new member of the Rolling Stones in May, was not really a legal member until Aug. 1st 1970. That was when the contractual arrangements of a band known as the Rolling Stones (Jagger/Richards/Watts/Wyman & Jones) ended,and a new one to incude Mick Taylor could become offical.
Speaking of the 1969 tour, the The Balitmore, NYC,& West Palm Beach were all taped (16trk audio) While NYC ,West Palm Beach & Altamont were filmed.The Maysles planned to film the Altamont Concert but the audio was going to be from external audio microphones (the way bootleggers did back then). But Luckly the Grateful Dead who were planning to record their show on 16 trk ,to be done by their good friend's "Bob & Betty" from Ambelic Studios.
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His Majesty
West Palm Beach was before Altamont.
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Mathijs
Concerning Taylor as legal member: the 1970 contract actually stated that the Stones as a band consist of 5 members,
of which one was always to be Mick Jagger. This pissed off Keith quite a bit.
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His Majesty
West Palm Beach was before Altamont.
Sure, but the 'official' ending of the tour was Boston, they played the WPB festival as a gesture to the organiser. When Altamont was planned at the very late stage the decision was made to film it.
Mathijs
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Aquamarine
In the context of that sort of festival
At the time, Altamont was never referred to as a festival, but as a concert.
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2000 LYFH
This was SF (home of the Dead) after all...
True, but it was the Stones' tour, and they had been around longer and were more popular overall.
By that point, there was only one other band that could headline above The Stones, and John Lennon had left that band, so that left The Stones at the top of the heap no matter where they played.
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Mathijs
Concerning Taylor as legal member: the 1970 contract actually stated that the Stones as a band consist of 5 members,
of which one was always to be Mick Jagger. This pissed off Keith quite a bit.
The contract with whom, please and thank you kindly?