For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
lsbzQuote
Nikolai
Also there were Morrissey and Mick Hucknall of Simply Red. And Duran Duran too - yup, they started out as a punk band. Simon LeBon cited Pretty Vacant as one of his favourite records.
Maybe, but those and others you mention are pretty minor bands too. I'd say that generally any good Hollies track is more influential on good bands than everything the Sex Pistols did combined. And then you're talking about a very relative, minor influence as well.
Quote
NikolaiQuote
lsbzQuote
Nikolai
Also there were Morrissey and Mick Hucknall of Simply Red. And Duran Duran too - yup, they started out as a punk band. Simon LeBon cited Pretty Vacant as one of his favourite records.
Maybe, but those and others you mention are pretty minor bands too. I'd say that generally any good Hollies track is more influential on good bands than everything the Sex Pistols did combined. And then you're talking about a very relative, minor influence as well.
Oh, I get it. You're a troll. Sorry I fed you. You were good though. I'll give you that.
Quote
Nikolai
How old are you?
Quote
Stoneage
Please, cool down gentlemen! Agree to disagree and call it quits. By the way, please accept my apologies for my first post in this thread. Americans do understand punk. You got the Ramones! I forgot about them. 1-2-3, let's go!
Quote
Title5Take1
I love the Sex Pistols, and if it weren't for them maybe SOME GIRLS (my favorite Stones album) wouldn't have be what it is.
From Barbara Charone's Keith biography p. 175. "Jagger has kept a watchful eye on the British punk scene, imitating them in song and gesture in the studio."
The Ramones were American punk and Mick was obviously inspired to write When the Whip Comes Down by the Ramones' song 53rd and 3rd.
Quote
NikolaiQuote
Title5Take1
I love the Sex Pistols, and if it weren't for them maybe SOME GIRLS (my favorite Stones album) wouldn't have be what it is.
From Barbara Charone's Keith biography p. 175. "Jagger has kept a watchful eye on the British punk scene, imitating them in song and gesture in the studio."
The Ramones were American punk and Mick was obviously inspired to write When the Whip Comes Down by the Ramones' song 53rd and 3rd.
That's a great point. Whip is about a gay hustler, and Dee Dee Ramone wrote 53rd and 3rd from personal experience (in fact, there's even a rumour that he really did knife a john).
Quote
KeefanQuote
NikolaiQuote
Title5Take1
I love the Sex Pistols, and if it weren't for them maybe SOME GIRLS (my favorite Stones album) wouldn't have be what it is.
From Barbara Charone's Keith biography p. 175. "Jagger has kept a watchful eye on the British punk scene, imitating them in song and gesture in the studio."
The Ramones were American punk and Mick was obviously inspired to write When the Whip Comes Down by the Ramones' song 53rd and 3rd.
That's a great point. Whip is about a gay hustler, and Dee Dee Ramone wrote 53rd and 3rd from personal experience (in fact, there's even a rumour that he really did knife a john).
Speaking of Dee Dee, he was one of Sid's hereos (at least acoording to Dee Dee!) Sid started wearing a leather jacket because of the Ramones, and Sid carried the same kind of knife that Dee Dee gave to Stiv Bators after a show (Sid was there when Dee Dee gave the knife to Stiv). In Dee Dee's autobiography he tells a disgusting yet funny story about being with Sid when Sid shot up in a men's room, and used some water from a stopped up used and abused toilet in the syringe.
Quote
humanriff77
Inspired by this thread I just played Never Mind The Bollocks at full blast for the first time in a year or so its still one of the greatest records ever made 34 years later, vinyl dynamite.
Quote
ineedadrink
gee, how ironic. this is a thread about punk music and the punk lifestyle and yet someone gets insulted by a single word and they feel the need to cry to the administrator. get tough! sticks and stones, remember?
Quote
Silver Dagger
I first met Sid on a night when students at my college - Kingsway-Princeton - overtook the place in a demonstration against education cuts.
There was a knock on the door outside and it was this guy all dressed in black who asked me if 'John' was around. I hadn't the faintest idea who he met but invited him in and we sat down and talked - mainly about music. He mentioned liking some of the bands that I was into at the time like The Pink Fairies, Hawkwind,Roxy Music, Alice Cooper, The Stones and most importantly Syd Barrett from whence he got his name. I thought he was an interesting guy. Half an hour later he went off to find his friend John who I know now was John Lydon - a guy I used to see stalking the college corridors with long dyed henna hair and a badge bearing the legend 'In Search Of Eddie Riff'. That was the name of an album by Roxy Music sax and oboe player Andy Mackay.
As I said, over time we became mates and hung out together but bad blood brewed after he took a shine to my girlfriend.
He moved into a squat with my best friend and I used to see him whenever I went up there but by this time he was starting to get into bad habits, inspired by his other hero Keef.
I remember a few occasions where he was so strung out that he would come to college on the coldest winter's day in just a string vest.
In the next year of college I returned late only to find that my place in cinema studies was taken by him. He was never Sid to me, always Spiky John because of his hair. The Sid name really only came about in mid 76 after he styarted hanging about at Sex on the the Kings Road.