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Danger and creativity wise I'd say that Rambler is a powerhouse and Jaggers harmonica on CYHMK is actually a brave and risky thing to do... and it works!

So, I was wrong, the modern day stones were already being creative and taking risks onstage before the addition of Taylor on this tour. He does bring a different flavour, but given his battered skills is it really any better than what they were before?

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I'm not so sure he brings more emotion musically. I can understand that fans get emotional about having him there though.

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Some nights they are better, sometimes not. He's just human

This is taking risks, too - and with wonderful results:

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I'm not so sure he brings more emotion musically. I can understand that fans get emotional about having him there though.

That's what I meant. The emotion is for us fans. Although the film of Mick and Keith raising their eyes in admiration as Mick T played that solo on Can't You Hear Me Knocking in LA recently revealed real emotion...a real prodigal son moment.

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Some nights they are better, sometimes not. He's just human

This is taking risks, too - and with wonderful results:

Yup, also that night's amazing version of Undercover Of The Night!

Hot hot hot!

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I think the whole Atlantic City-show is among the best they ever did.

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I think the whole Atlantic City-show is among the best they ever did.

I'm not so keen on the the modern, for the time, sounds, but yeah they were very ON!

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I think the whole Atlantic City-show is among the best they ever did.

I'm not so keen on the the modern, for the time, sounds, but yeah they were very ON!

Same here, but it needs to be evaluated in the context of the time, imo.

Great show!

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Vegas all the same.

- Doxa

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Danger and creativity wise I'd say that Rambler is a powerhouse and Jaggers harmonica on CYHMK is actually a brave and risky thing to do... and it works!

So, I was wrong, the modern day stones were already being creative and taking risks onstage before the addition of Taylor on this tour. He does bring a different flavour, but given his battered skills is it really any better than what they were before?

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Danger and creativity wise I'd say that Rambler is a powerhouse and Jaggers harmonica on CYHMK is actually a brave and risky thing to do... and it works!

So, I was wrong, the modern day stones were already being creative and taking risks onstage before the addition of Taylor on this tour. He does bring a different flavour, but given his battered skills is it really any better than what they were before?

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I think the whole Atlantic City-show is among the best they ever did.

I'm not so keen on the the modern, for the time, sounds, but yeah they were very ON!

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

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I think the whole Atlantic City-show is among the best they ever did.

I'm not so keen on the the modern, for the time, sounds, but yeah they were very ON!

Atlantic City not official dvd is it? Where can I get a copy

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... do you know what DVD's these tracks/numbers are from, anyone ??? ta ta in advance

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

There was a tour in 2002/2003, where they played obscure numbers in clubs. Three different setlists in major cities.

Stray cat blues, no expectations, hand of fate, neighbours, don't look back, parachute woman, she smiled sweetly, torn and frayed, hot stuff - to name a FEW of th numbers they played.

Vegas?

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

Just two snippets from a quick YouTube search.

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

There was a tour in 2002/2003, where they played obscure numbers in clubs. Three different setlists in major cities.

Stray cat blues, no expectations, hand of fate, neighbours, don't look back, parachute woman, she smiled sweetly, torn and frayed, hot stuff - to name a FEW of th numbers they played.

Vegas?

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

There was a tour in 2002/2003, where they played obscure numbers in clubs. Three different setlists in major cities.

Stray cat blues, no expectations, hand of fate, neighbours, don't look back, parachute woman, she smiled sweetly, torn and frayed, hot stuff - to name a FEW of th numbers they played.

Vegas?

And let's not forget perhaps the highlight of the entire tour, That's How Strong My Love Is when Mick was rejuvenated in front of all our eyes and became his early 20s self again. That for me sent shivers down my back and told me that yes, they could still be that magnificent band again, away from all that stadium nonsense.

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

There was a tour in 2002/2003, where they played obscure numbers in clubs. Three different setlists in major cities.

Stray cat blues, no expectations, hand of fate, neighbours, don't look back, parachute woman, she smiled sweetly, torn and frayed, hot stuff - to name a FEW of th numbers they played.

Vegas?

And let's not forget perhaps the highlight of the entire tour, That's How Strong My Love Is when Mick was rejuvenated in front of all our eyes and became his early 20s self again. That for me sent shivers down my back and told me that yes, they could still be that magnificent band again, away from all that stadium nonsense.

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

There was a tour in 2002/2003, where they played obscure numbers in clubs. Three different setlists in major cities.

Stray cat blues, no expectations, hand of fate, neighbours, don't look back, parachute woman, she smiled sweetly, torn and frayed, hot stuff - to name a FEW of th numbers they played.

Vegas?

Yeah, I was talking about the same thing in my later post (before I saw this one).

- Doxa

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Danger and creativity wise I'd say that Rambler is a powerhouse and Jaggers harmonica on CYHMK is actually a brave and risky thing to do... and it works!

So, I was wrong, the modern day stones were already being creative and taking risks onstage before the addition of Taylor on this tour. He does bring a different flavour, but given his battered skills is it really any better than what they were before?

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Doxa

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So that was the results of Sherlock Holmeses' investigation here to trace those "danger" and "creativity" elements within modern tours. The jam of "Midnight Rambler" in COUNTING THE MONEY AND RUN TOUR and Jagger's harp in "Knocking" during LICKS TOUR plus one STEEL WHEELS TOUR show (even though I don't know what "danger" there is to create one-to-one versions of the studio versions of their old songs, especially by the help of army of back-up musicians, even though at that time it was a novel idea, so somehow it was "creative" I suppose). Impressive.

- Doxa

Just two snippets from a quick YouTube search.

Seriously, I am sure there will be others too, but that really needs energy and time to find them, since those two terms - danger and creativity - aren't the most obvious ones to describe their efforts during "modern" tours. I take the whole "professionalist" turn in 1989 as a way to cut off those features of their music. In a way that a brave move as per se to really readjust their sound so much and start to play according to fixed arrangements (in order to cope with the stage technology, such as lights and other extra stuff). I think also the idea to start playing the songs according to their original studio versions was a way to cut some of the dangers of the "road versions" off, since those didn't have a firm model to refer to, but were like "flying in the air", a kind of song sketches, which were created by simpling playing them (very much up to guitarist/s).

And they rehearsed a lot for that tour. My guess is that it was Jagger's order to put everything strictly in control. But more control there is, less spontanious it is. I think the biggest presence of danger is if Keith and Ronnie can play so rigorously as needed for their given role.

Generally, I think the most "dangerous" moments are those when they try some occasional obscure numbers and see what happens. Then they need to necessarily to go out of their safety zone, and rely on their natural musicianship and intuition. (So in that sense I don't think for example "2000 Light Years From Home" from 1989 was such a case, since it was seemingly rehearsed very well to fit to show's demands, and a regularity in that tour). But then, one could ask, is that really "dangerous", but more like just not having enough rehearsed?

- Doxa