I'm not! I missed to much. So some of you probably haven't this problem. I post this book, for others...and I enjoy in posting, too.

The Lost Rolling Stones Photographs by Larry Marion
A revealing look at the earliest days of the legendary Rolling Stones, captured in a collection of personal, never-before-seen photographs—the largest single trove of such important rock images ever uncovered—shot as the band were on the brink of international stardom.
Perfect gift for all fans of The Rolling Stones and readers of Keith Richards’s memoir Life.
Larry Marion’s The Lost Rolling Stones Photographs is a milestone for rock and roll collecting: the largest trove of never-before-seen rock photographs ever uncovered reveals the Rolling Stones on their earliest American tours in the 1960s. Selected from a rediscovered cache of intimate, behind-the-scenes snapshots taken by Bob Bonis—the US tour manager behind the Stones, the Beatles and other British Invasion breakthroughs—The Lost Rolling Stones Photographs reveals the casual, human side of a young Mick Jagger and Keith Richards when they were merely “England’s Newest Hit Makers.” Presented by Larry Marion, owner of New York’s Not Fade Away Gallery and curator of the acclaimed exhibit “The British Are Coming: The Beatles and The Rolling Stones 1964-66,” this one-of-a-kind book gives a priceless window into the off-stage personalities of America’s first bad boy rock band.
Book Description
A revealing look at the earliest days of the legendary band, captured in a collection of personal, never-before-seen photographs—the largest single trove of such important rock images ever uncovered
When they first came to America in June of 1964, The Rolling Stones had been together for only two years and were almost completely unknown to U.S. audiences. They often played on bills with a variety of other artists, not necessarily as the headlining act, and often received lukewarm receptions. Many of these earliest U.S. shows did not sell out. But in the years that Bob Bonis photographed them, The Stones went from unknowns to one of the most prominent bands in the world.
Documented in these photos is this seminal period when The Stones made their transformation into the world's greatest rock 'n' roll band. And during that time, few were closer to The Stones than Bob Bonis, the tour manager for their U.S. tours between 1964 and 1966. While on the road with The Stones, Bonis, a passionate amateur photographer with a keen eye, an innate sense of composition, and a deep love for his subjects, snapped some 2,700 photographs of the band—a remarkable collection that until now has only been known to family and close friends.
Onstage, offstage, and behind-the-scenes, these stunning photographs show The Stones in an entirely new light—intimate and unguarded. Here are Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Brian Jones, Charlie Watts, Ian Stewart, and Bill Wyman in casual moments, in rehearsal, in concert, in dressing rooms, on vacation, on the road. Funny, surprising, provocative, beautiful, these photos recall an unforgettable period in history and offer a fresh look at these soon-to-be legends at the beginning of their fame. This was the point at which early manager Andrew Loog Oldham began to position the band as the antidote to The Beatles—troublemakers dressed in leather and singing about the dark side of relationships.
Comprised of images unearthed after forty-five years, The Lost Rolling Stones Photographs is a groundbreaking portrait of one of the most iconic bands of the twentieth century.






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Really great JJackFl.............thanks

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Really nice. Thank you very much

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Keep On Rolling

If only I could go back in time.....

MANY THANKS

Those are great photographs. Thanks for posting.

It's not all over.

Some great opictures, thanks again JJackFl

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Wow, they are truely awesome! Thanks for sharing

Some really Awesome shots here! Thank you for posting them!!!

Please do NOT publish ENTIRE copies of recently published books. It is the same as stealing the book and that is not acceptable. Samples are ok but not pages and pages and pages. Thanks!

Bjornulf

If you are a fan of the stones, you need this book!!!

Perfect antidote to the negativity found in Keith's Life book.

More pics to be seen (and bought) here:


NFA Gallery

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Please do NOT publish ENTIRE copies of recently published books. It is the same as stealing the book and that is not acceptable. Samples are ok but not pages and pages and pages. Thanks!

JJFlash , I am the one who asked bv if it was allowed or forbidden on his board to post the photos of a whole new book because it looked unfair to me .Sometimes the rules are hard to understand ,when it comes to photo credits or copyrights.


I did appreciate many of your threads on IORR it is mainly because you scanned magazines.
But I don't agree at all with posting all the photos and pages from a book that just came out .
I own that wondeful Bob Bonis ' book myself.There were many threads about it ,just use the search button, type " Bob Bonis " on the search message ,and here we go !

proudmary posted this last November :
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then you get :

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Cheers,SwayStones !

PS : In case you wanted to ask me why I didn't post myself some scans of the book ,the main reason is because the book is "new"
then I scan from time to time some Stones' books -see the RCA" ones - but I really don't know how to deal with my scan ,that's why sometimes I just shoot the pictures with my camera .



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

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I am the one who asked bv if it was allowed or forbidden on his board to post the photos of a whole new book because it looked unfair to me .Sometimes the rules are hard to understand ,when it comes to photo credits or copyrights.


I did appreciate many of your threads on IORR it is mainly because you scanned magazines.
But I don't agree at all with posting all the photos and pages from a book that just came out .
I own that wondeful Bob Bonis ' book myself.There were many threads about it ,just use the search button, type " Bob Bonis " on the search message ,and here we go !

The issue can be seen from different point of views.

With regard to copyright laws, it certainly is not allowed to publish scans of a book without the permit of the owner of the rights, so I understand BV's concerns.

That said, copyright laws not always make the interest of the author, and often it is hard to see the purpose of certain restrictions: can someone seriously argue that the publishing of low res scans of the book on this site can damage the sales of the book? Quite the opposite in my case, I bought two copies of the book after seeing this thread! As a matter of fact I did not even know of the existence of the photographer in the first place!

Whats the difference between peeping in a book in a bookshop and going through a thread like this?


C

Wow...I think in each shot of the Keith and Bill bowling they have a foot fault.
There over the line in each picture!

No wrist guards either...

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Whats the difference between peeping in a book in a bookshop and going through a thread like this?


C

To be honest with you,liddas,the only book I ever peeped at in a supermarket was "Life" because I wasn't sure I would want to read Keith' book in French - actually,I even didn't finish to read the 1st chapter of the book in the english version -

Even when I buy some cars' magazines, I don't peep in it, I just look at the cover .

IMO,the difference between peeping a book in a bookstore ,& downloading the same book & posting it on a board like JJFlash did ,is that you leave the book in the bookstore but still you give the whole work from a photographer on a board.

Do you understand what I am trying to say ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

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IMO,the difference between peeping a book in a bookstore ,& downloading the same book & posting it on a board like JJFlash did ,is that you leave the book in the bookstore but still you give the whole work from a photographer on a board.

Do you understand what I am trying to say ?

Yes, but I don't agree: a real book of photographs and scans of the same on a monitor are not the same thing. Not even close (unless we are speaking of high res scans, which was not our case). Did the author lose money or reputation because of this thread?

C

>> Did the author lose money <<

sure, the author/publisher may well have lost some sales - not everyone values tangibility the way you do.
and then it becomes that much harder for photographers to interest publishers in their work,
and that doesn't make the world a more beautiful place.

as for the promotional aspects: what you're talking about is why the concept of "fair use" functions,
but it doesn't apply to entire books.



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>> Did the author lose money <<

sure, the author/publisher may well have lost some sales - not everyone values tangibility the way you do.
and then it becomes that much harder for photographers to interest publishers in their work,
and that doesn't make the world a more beautiful place.

as for the promotional aspects: what you're talking about is why the concept of "fair use" functions,
but it doesn't apply to entire books.

"Fair use" is what JJackFl, who bought the book, can do with it under copyright laws. As I said, there is no doubt that he cannot post scans of the entire book on IORR.

What I was expressing is only my - very personal - convincion that a law that prohibits free circulation of low resolution scans of a photobook on the rolling stones on a rolling stones fan site, is a stupid law, because the restriction is completely pointless. My personal convinction is that those who find the book interesting will want to buy the book (which, by the way, is not at all expensive). Simple as that. It would be interesting to know how many copies were sold only to people who saw the original thread. 2 for sure (mine), but I would bet that there are more.

If we were discussing of music, I could see a point in your concerns - yet whitout fully agreeing with them - because a mp3 of Brown Sugar downloaded for free from XXXX.org is exactly what you find for 0.9 $ on Istore.

But then again, 99% of the Hot Stuff section is exactly as "illegal" as JJackFl original post. Should we now cancel that section too?

C

>> But then again, 99% of the Hot Stuff section is exactly as "illegal" as JJackFl original post. <<

far as i know, bv only allows nonofficial material in the "hot stuff" section, so that's not a parallel.
i'm not trying to argue with your opinion, but it would mean more to me if you were talking about
ways of giving away your own work, not other people's (low res versions or not!)

for me it's the photographers (or in this case the photographer's heirs) who should decide whether and how to share their work,
and the link to the official Bob Bonis site is up there for anyone who wants to look at it :E



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with sssoul, tell me if I am mistaken or not.

If you need to copy images from a publication / a book when the book is new , you need to get permission from the author.


For text you can use some quotations with credit given to the author. It's the images which /that would need a special permission to be reproduced ,right ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

At first glance, Brian appears to be wearing a scarf, which is what I originally thought. As I was looking to see how he folded it so neatly I realized it was a sweater design. He looks quite GQ here. Very nice.

>> For text you can use some quotations with credit given to the author. <<

it depends on how much text you quote - you also need permission to quote more than X number of words.
(last time i was involved with that kind of issue, different publications had different limits/requirements)

I'll leave it to the experts to say what the legal position is on this (sounds complicated).

I'm quite happy to scan and post bits of books I own, and recirculate other people's scans, and I agree that this is good advertising (that's how I came to own the Bob Bonis book in the first place, some time before this thread was created). However, it does feel wrong to me to systematically post the entire contents of a book which is recently published, freely available in an unlimited edition and not prohibitively expensive for the ordinary fan. We know that for lots of people an illegal mp3 download will do just fine instead of buying a CD - so probably a low-res scan of a photo book will do if they are too mean to splash out £12.38 (current Amazon price) for a physical copy.



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>> I'm quite happy to scan and post bits of books I own, and recirculate other people's scans,
and I agree that this is good advertising ... However, it does feel wrong to me to systematically post the entire contents of a book <<

just in case it's not clear: that's what i mean too.
no one's been objecting to "sample" type scans like what's in the thread now that it's been edited

Can you imagine Brian coming of age looking like that in today's world?
Can you say Male Model? Airbrush those bags under the eyes, and the GAP has another spread.

It's a good thing that Keith didn't bowl with Walter from The Big Lebowski..."Over the line Keith!!!!!!"