8 minutes and 53 seconds. I hear there's a Springsteen B-side that's even longer. Exactly how much music can you fit on a 45?






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...not sure, but we have another for the 10-in-a-row singles list....



"Welcome to the Jungle" (Gold)

"Sweet Child o' Mine" (Gold)

"Paradise City"

"Patience" (Gold)

"Nightrain"

"You Could Be Mine" (Gold)

"Don't Cry" (Gold)

"Live and Let Die"

"November Rain" (Gold)

"Knockin' on Heaven's Door"

This one's pretty long.

So's this.

This one's 8 minutes.

Here's what can happen when you try to edit an 8:31 album track into a 3:37 single. A total disaster!






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This got chopped from 7:05 down to 2:52 but it still makes sense musically (unlike the completely botched Who single).






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Another good edit. 8:29 down to 3:27. Nicely done!






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The most drastic (and successful) edit of them all. 17:05 down to 2:52. If you've only ever heard the short version, you're not missing a thing.






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Oh Superman by Laurie Anderson was over 8 minutes on 7"

I hated when they split the song... half on side 1, half on side 2.

"Sky Pilot" by Eric Burdon was like that

you think a 2/5, 3/5 split would work better?

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you think a 2/5, 3/5 split would work better?

A flat physical object, such as a disc, has only two physical "sides." It cannot have five. You can google or wiki this... I am pretty certain of this.

Did you take geometry when you were younger?

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I hated when they split the song... half on side 1, half on side 2.

"Sky Pilot" by Eric Burdon was like that

What about Don McLean's American Pie? How long was that one, and did they split it on A and B sides?



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I hated when they split the song... half on side 1, half on side 2.

"Sky Pilot" by Eric Burdon was like that

What about Don McLean's American Pie? How long was that one, and did they split it on A and B sides?

My copy of American Pie is split...I think the song is over 8 1/2 mintues in total length.

Found this at the website of a company that presses vinyl records.



How much music can I fit on a... 7" 10" 12"?

Determining how much music can fit on a record is based in minutes and is not set in stone. We have our suggested maximums – what we know to be the range where you will generally have the best quality. These are as follows:

33 RPM

7" 6 minutes
10" 12 minutes
12" 18 minutes

45 RPM

7" 4.5 minutes
10" 9 minutes
12" 12 minutes

These recommended maximums become more crucial with bass heavy music, and you may want to lower the max per side if your music is very bass heavy. The volume of your record is directly linked to the total time of each side. When the side length of a 12” record is less than 9 minutes, the loudness will be at the maximum for 33 1/3 rpm cuts. However, in most cases, you lose about one decibel in volume for each minute over 13 minutes per side. Loss of output volume is the most common issue, but pops, skips, and distortion/loss in the frequency extremes can also occur.



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Found this at the website of a company that presses vinyl records.



How much music can I fit on a... (7" 10" 12")?

Determining how much music can fit on a record is based in minutes and is not set in stone. We have our suggested maximums – what we know to be the range where you will generally have the best quality. These are as follows:

33 RPM 45 RPM

7" 6 minutes 4.5 minutes
10" 12 minutes 9 minutes
12" 18 minutes 12 minutes

These recommended maximums become more crucial with bass heavy music, and you may want to lower the max per side if your music is very bass heavy. The volume of your record is directly linked to the total time of each side. When the side length of a 12” record is less than 9 minutes, the loudness will be at the maximum for 33 1/3 rpm cuts. However, in most cases, you lose about one decibel in volume for each minute over 13 minutes per side. Loss of output volume is the most common issue, but pops, skips, and distortion/loss in the frequency extremes can also occur.

Nice one tatters

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Found this at the website of a company that presses vinyl records.



How much music can I fit on a... 7" 10" 12"?

Determining how much music can fit on a record is based in minutes and is not set in stone. We have our suggested maximums – what we know to be the range where you will generally have the best quality. These are as follows:

33 RPM 45 RPM

7" 6 minutes 4.5 minutes
10" 12 minutes 9 minutes
12" 18 minutes 12 minutes

These recommended maximums become more crucial with bass heavy music, and you may want to lower the max per side if your music is very bass heavy. The volume of your record is directly linked to the total time of each side. When the side length of a 12” record is less than 9 minutes, the loudness will be at the maximum for 33 1/3 rpm cuts. However, in most cases, you lose about one decibel in volume for each minute over 13 minutes per side. Loss of output volume is the most common issue, but pops, skips, and distortion/loss in the frequency extremes can also occur.

Nice one tatters

I had a Todd Rundgren LP that had about 66 minutes of music on it. The grooves were so narrow, you had to play it at full volume to hear it.

The album is one of the longest single LPs of all time, totaling almost 68 minutes of playing time. Due to the length of "A Treatise on Cosmic Fire", the master tape speed was raised slightly and the recording's dynamic range was compressed to fit the entire song onto one side of the vinyl during mastering. The album's original inner sleeve noted that the sound needed to be compressed in order to fit the songs on the album and, as a result, it could easily be damaged if played with a worn needle and the sound volume might be low. The sleeve notes recommended that a person record the album to tape to preserve the sound.



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so now my story. and it´s true. I got an invitation by a school mate (we´re both grown up now) and we had lunch and his wife put on a lp with classical music. And it went on and on and on. Maybe nearly an hour. this is no joke. one side, nearly an hour. played on 33.

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you think a 2/5, 3/5 split would work better?

A flat physical object, such as a disc, has only two physical "sides." It cannot have five. You can google or wiki this... I am pretty certain of this.

Did you take geometry when you were younger?

i don't think you understood my question.

I bought in New York in ´82 the second winter album by Johnny Winter.
I had no idea about that side 4 was left empty.
they could have as well added the tracks of side 3 to the other ones,but didn´t and
the sound is amazing.

Wake me when this is over.

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StonesTod
you think a 2/5, 3/5 split would work better?

A flat physical object, such as a disc, has only two physical "sides." It cannot have five. You can google or wiki this... I am pretty certain of this.

Did you take geometry when you were younger?

i don't think you understood my question.

I didn't think you'd misunderstand my answer...

My mum and dad had 78s but I don't I ever saw a 16. I think they were mainly for dialogue speeches etc. Anybody out there ever seen one or know how long they could play for?

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schillid
I hated when they split the song... half on side 1, half on side 2.

"Sky Pilot" by Eric Burdon was like that

They did it on cassettes too. For ages I thought Born to Run came in two parts.

The Jim Morrison biography NO ONE HERE GETS OUT ALIVE says a single of the Doors' The End was released in Mexico. But it might have been the shorter version below. Which is 3:00 versus 12:00. I'm not sure which version was released in Mexico.





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Not even close. Especially in the era of remixes and dub versions of singles.

'Blue Room' by The Orb (released in 1992) clocked in at three seconds short of 40 minutes.

It reached No. 8 in the UK charts.

The ruling by Gallup (who compile the charts) was that anything over 40 minutes couldn't be classed as a single. So The Orb put this one out and made sure it was JUST under the limit.

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8 minutes and 53 seconds. I hear there's a Springsteen B-side that's even longer. Exactly how much music can you fit on a 45?

Presumably you mean the live version of "Incident on 57th Street" which was on the 'War' single in 1986. However, it was only on the 12' version if I recall correctly.

'Merry Christmas Baby' was the b-side of the 7 and 12 inch versions.

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so now my story. and it´s true. I got an invitation by a school mate (we´re both grown up now) and we had lunch and his wife put on a lp with classical music. And it went on and on and on. Maybe nearly an hour. this is no joke. one side, nearly an hour. played on 33.

Maybe it just seemed like an hour. Or maybe you had dozed off at the point where she was flipping the record over.



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My mum and dad had 78s but I don't I ever saw a 16. I think they were mainly for dialogue speeches etc. Anybody out there ever seen one or know how long they could play for?

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