Well...as a professional photographer, I wish I could give a definitive answer.
I've shot LOTS and LOTS of concerts as a paid pro and a few dozen as a fan of various bands.
These days it's tough to get credentials (a photo pass) as a pro...even if you have a
legitimate reason to shoot the show! You literally need the permission of the venue and
the band....and sometimes you practically have to sign away all rights to your first born child.
Compared to how it was in the 60's & 70's (from what I've heard), it's ridiculous. On top of that
the pros only get to shoot the first 2-3 songs and then they're (literally) ushered out of the venue.
There are exceptions of course...like if the band has specifically hired you to document the
tour, for album artwork..or for high profile music magazines.
Reasons for limiting pros.......everything from "too distracting" to the band & blocking view of
front row fans to... only the first few songs while the band is still looking fresh (not too sweaty) etc...
In general it is because they are very protective of their image. Not only HOW they look...but how
the image will be used.
(i didn't say it made sense...but that's usually one of the lines they feed you)
Most bands allow pros there for 3 songs...some for only ONE....and others not at all....not even for
the local newspaper photog or venue photographer. Pros are usually told where to shoot from.
Most commonly from "the pit" (area between stage & front rows), from the soundboard area...or
less frequently from the side (midway between stage & soundboard). All locations have certain
advantages. So...for the person that said shooting from the crowd is never as good as from
the pit...I beg to differ (sometimes).
Re: fan photography
These days I think it's a slippery slope. It could get out of hand very quickly.
Recently I've noticed that they've become more lenient. They still won't allow what they
call "professional equipment" (translation: SLR or DSLR w/interchangeable lenses), but because
of cell phone cameras etc... they are beginning to allow "point & shoot" cameras (non-interchangeable lens).
It's the photographer that creates the good pictures..not the camera...but a good camera helps.
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There are some very nice amateur "point & shoot" cameras out there...that will give
very professional results (assuming you know how to use them properly)....after getting
denied several times with my pro DSLRs and long telephoto lenses, i picked up a little Sony
"point & shoot" w/Zeiss lens.
And then there are some times when the Band just doesn't mind!
The Black Crowes have a history of allowing photography & audio recording devices.
As a fan, I've always wanted to take my pro gear but never wanted to risk
having venue security try to take it from me...or send me back to my car...or kick me out all together...
so unless it is very clearly stated, (as a fan) I usually only take my little Sony "p&s"..and then kick myself
when I see others w/DSLRs.
While walking into the lobby of a Lindsey Buckingham show, they actually announced that
photography was permitted as long as you didn't use a flash. Ugh!! Of course this was not
known beforehand, but luckily I had stuck my wife's little Canon "point & shoot" in her purse
before we left..just in case. I was glad I did. With the announcement being "no flash"...don't know if
that meant only for point & shoots or if my pro gear would've been allowed too.
Re: flash photography at concerts....in my opinion it's pointless. No matter
how dim the lighting I will ALWAYS choose the stage lighting over a flash.....
.....so that restriction means nothing to me.
Re: the "fuss"
as i said, I don't have the definitive answer but....I saw many people get assaulted
by the "photo nazis" at the Steel Wheels shows I attended. Some people were
tossed out of the show during START ME UP! Of course...it may have been because
they were belligerent to the security guy too.
I suggest that if the security is really tough....wait til the final song or encore and then pull it
out & go nuts. What can they do? Kick you out? You've seen the show.
Also..sometimes they think they have a right to demand your camera memory card.
Keep an inexpensive dummy card in your pocket...and do a little slight of hand.
Not sure if they can legally take it from you but....
One more thing.....the next time you want to snap some pics of your favorite band (as a fan)
do a google image search or search on Flickr etc.... to see what other fans have posted.
If there's lots & lots of fan shots....good chance that the band has no problem with you clicking away.
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2010-11-15 21:55 by sweet neo con.