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marvpeck
I'm rather pissed at whoever first posted this.
Like an idiot, I started reading the article.
Then I went back to origin of the article which states:
Please Allow Me To Correct a Few Things
Imagine if Mick Jagger responded to Keith Richards about his new autobiography.
I think is was very misleading to not have posted this first.
I hope I won't make the same mistake again
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Bliss
A very lucid, beautifully written article, by someone with comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the Stones and their music.
I take issue with him when he says that nothing of value has been produced since the 80s. I find much to love in SW, VL and B to B, as well as the solo material.
You and I are in complete agreement. The piece prompted me to listen to How Can I Stop? again.
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Doxa
Jagger was able to rise the Stones to glory again with SOME GIRLS and TATTOO YOU, but that's about it.
- Doxa
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Jagger was able to rise the Stones to glory again with SOME GIRLS and TATTOO YOU, but that's about it.
- Doxa
Whats with Sticky Fingers, Goats Head Soup etc.? Don´t forget Mick Taylor who says Jagger wrote most of the songs.
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stones78
Mick Jagger would never say that after Tattoo You they "sucked".
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Gazza
For goodness sake, read the comments section in the article. Wyman (the journalist) admits himself it's his own words, not Jagger's.
And as seems to be the case on a daily basis regarding the reaction to Keith's book, a work of fiction is now being widely reported all over the internet as Jagger's official 'reaction' to it.
One born every minute.
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CBII
If that article were true it would certainly validate what many have stated here. The band would never tour again. However, it is not true so we all get to the continued speculation of the next tour.
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Doxa
Keith still loves to talk about having "antennas out" like it was still 1965, 1968 or 1971 and other bullshit, but bloody hell, the antenna's been broken for decades now. EXILE was Keith's last moment of artistic glory. It's been dowhill ever since. Unfortunately The Stones rise and fell with Keith. Jagger was able to rise the Stones to glory again with SOME GIRLS and TATTOO YOU, but that's about it.
- Doxa
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Bliss
A very lucid, beautifully written article, by someone with comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the Stones and their music.
I take issue with him when he says that nothing of value has been produced since the 80s. I find much to love in SW, VL and B to B, as well as the solo material.
You and I are in complete agreement. The piece prompted me to listen to How Can I Stop? again.
It made me want to listen to it for the first time ever, so I did. Wished I hadn't. I truly don't care for anything they have done from Dirty Work on. I understand that people have musical heroes, and accept everything they put out as at least ok, but I just see the Stones output of the last 25 years as utter crap. None of it appeals to me.
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KeefintheNight82
I found it very sad, also, during a recent interview when Keith remarked that it was his job to turn Mick on...
He sucks at his job then. 4 albums is 25 years is piss poor.
Keith really does live in the past.
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A very lucid, beautifully written article, by someone with comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the Stones and their music.
I take issue with him when he says that nothing of value has been produced since the 80s. I find much to love in SW, VL and B to B, as well as the solo material.
You and I are in complete agreement. The piece prompted me to listen to How Can I Stop? again.
It made me want to listen to it for the first time ever, so I did. Wished I hadn't. I truly don't care for anything they have done from Dirty Work on. I understand that people have musical heroes, and accept everything they put out as at least ok, but I just see the Stones output of the last 25 years as utter crap. None of it appeals to me.
Just wondering why in the hell you would waste your time on this board talking about them then? I know that sounds a little incendiary, but I really would like to know why you bother if you find nothing of value in the last quarter century?
True enough, they've known each other since infants school......Also this bloke talks in dollars when talking about British concert ticket prices...it's all in the detail....Quote
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Obviously not real (if only for the fact that we don't say 'grade school' in England), but someone's 'channelled' Mick very well here...
I guess that's fine then, if you are living so far in the past and have nothing better in your life than bitch about the band you liked 25 years ago, that you find utterly worthless now and in your opinion, has had no value in the second 25 years.Quote
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Bliss
A very lucid, beautifully written article, by someone with comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the Stones and their music.
I take issue with him when he says that nothing of value has been produced since the 80s. I find much to love in SW, VL and B to B, as well as the solo material.
You and I are in complete agreement. The piece prompted me to listen to How Can I Stop? again.
It made me want to listen to it for the first time ever, so I did. Wished I hadn't. I truly don't care for anything they have done from Dirty Work on. I understand that people have musical heroes, and accept everything they put out as at least ok, but I just see the Stones output of the last 25 years as utter crap. None of it appeals to me.
Just wondering why in the hell you would waste your time on this board talking about them then? I know that sounds a little incendiary, but I really would like to know why you bother if you find nothing of value in the last quarter century?
Maybe because he/she finds something very valuable in the quarter century prior that.
- Doxa
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I found it very sad, also, during a recent interview when Keith remarked that it was his job to turn Mick on...
He sucks at his job then. 4 albums is 25 years is piss poor.
Keith really does live in the past.
Don't ask bustedtrousers since The Rolling Stones stopped existing for him in 1986.
I think what this points out, what Keith said about it being his job to turn Mick on is that, as Mick has made it very clear over the past few years, Mick can't be bothered.
So in Keith's view, why bother then. And there you go. When Mick feels like fukcing around, like he did with Voodoo and Bridges and Bang, we get New Faces, Might As Well Get Juiced, Don't Stop, Rain Fall Down, Sweet Neo Con and Streets Of Shit.
When Keith can get Mick going we get Love Is Strong, I Go Wild, Flip The Switch, Lowdown, Out Of Control, Too Tight, Rough Justice, Let Me Down Slow, It Won't Take Long, Dangerous Beauty, She Saw Me Coming, Laugh, I Nearly Died...
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Bliss
A very lucid, beautifully written article, by someone with comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the Stones and their music.
I take issue with him when he says that nothing of value has been produced since the 80s. I find much to love in SW, VL and B to B, as well as the solo material.
You and I are in complete agreement. The piece prompted me to listen to How Can I Stop? again.
It made me want to listen to it for the first time ever, so I did. Wished I hadn't. I truly don't care for anything they have done from Dirty Work on. I understand that people have musical heroes, and accept everything they put out as at least ok, but I just see the Stones output of the last 25 years as utter crap. None of it appeals to me.
Just wondering why in the hell you would waste your time on this board talking about them then? I know that sounds a little incendiary, but I really would like to know why you bother if you find nothing of value in the last quarter century?
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treaclefingersI guess that's fine then, if you are living so far in the past and have nothing better in your life than bitch about the band you liked 25 years ago, that you find utterly worthless now and in your opinion, has had no value in the second 25 years.Quote
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A very lucid, beautifully written article, by someone with comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the Stones and their music.
I take issue with him when he says that nothing of value has been produced since the 80s. I find much to love in SW, VL and B to B, as well as the solo material.
You and I are in complete agreement. The piece prompted me to listen to How Can I Stop? again.
It made me want to listen to it for the first time ever, so I did. Wished I hadn't. I truly don't care for anything they have done from Dirty Work on. I understand that people have musical heroes, and accept everything they put out as at least ok, but I just see the Stones output of the last 25 years as utter crap. None of it appeals to me.
Just wondering why in the hell you would waste your time on this board talking about them then? I know that sounds a little incendiary, but I really would like to know why you bother if you find nothing of value in the last quarter century?
Maybe because he/she finds something very valuable in the quarter century prior that.
- Doxa
I was just curious...seems like he's wasting a lot of time...but then, we probably all are.
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treaclefingersI guess that's fine then, if you are living so far in the past and have nothing better in your life than bitch about the band you liked 25 years ago, that you find utterly worthless now and in your opinion, has had no value in the second 25 years.Quote
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Bliss
A very lucid, beautifully written article, by someone with comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the Stones and their music.
I take issue with him when he says that nothing of value has been produced since the 80s. I find much to love in SW, VL and B to B, as well as the solo material.
You and I are in complete agreement. The piece prompted me to listen to How Can I Stop? again.
It made me want to listen to it for the first time ever, so I did. Wished I hadn't. I truly don't care for anything they have done from Dirty Work on. I understand that people have musical heroes, and accept everything they put out as at least ok, but I just see the Stones output of the last 25 years as utter crap. None of it appeals to me.
Just wondering why in the hell you would waste your time on this board talking about them then? I know that sounds a little incendiary, but I really would like to know why you bother if you find nothing of value in the last quarter century?
Maybe because he/she finds something very valuable in the quarter century prior that.
- Doxa
I was just curious...seems like he's wasting a lot of time...but then, we probably all are.
Don't be so simple about it, you know that's not how it is. I enjoy talking about all the history of the Rolling Stones, good and bad. Just because I see the last half of their history as more bad than good, doesn't mean I'm stuck in the past, and that I don't like them at all. I like a lot of current music/music of the past 25 years, just not by the Stones. And the Stones aren't the only long-running band I like that have stopped making music that appeals to me.
As you somewhat suggested, how is anything on here not a waste of time to some degree? Just because some people write nothing but sycophantic, positive opinions, that makes their time on here completely worthy? And the less positive are automatically bitter time-wasters who live in the past?
I don't think so.
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A very lucid, beautifully written article, by someone with comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the Stones and their music.
I take issue with him when he says that nothing of value has been produced since the 80s. I find much to love in SW, VL and B to B, as well as the solo material.
You and I are in complete agreement. The piece prompted me to listen to How Can I Stop? again.
It made me want to listen to it for the first time ever, so I did. Wished I hadn't. I truly don't care for anything they have done from Dirty Work on. I understand that people have musical heroes, and accept everything they put out as at least ok, but I just see the Stones output of the last 25 years as utter crap. None of it appeals to me.
Just wondering why in the hell you would waste your time on this board talking about them then? I know that sounds a little incendiary, but I really would like to know why you bother if you find nothing of value in the last quarter century?
Maybe because he/she finds something very valuable in the quarter century prior that.
- Doxa
I was just curious...seems like he's wasting a lot of time...but then, we probably all are.
Don't be so simple about it, you know that's not how it is. I enjoy talking about all the history of the Rolling Stones, good and bad. Just because I see the last half of their history as more bad than good, doesn't mean I'm stuck in the past, and that I don't like them at all. I like a lot of current music/music of the past 25 years, just not by the Stones. And the Stones aren't the only long-running band I like that have stopped making music that appeals to me.
As you somewhat suggested, how is anything on here not a waste of time to some degree? Just because some people write nothing but sycophantic, positive opinions, that makes their time on here completely worthy? And the less positive are automatically bitter time-wasters who live in the past?
I don't think so.
Well...I do agree with you..., now. It just seems like you're better articulating the 'shades of grey' sentiment now...you were fairly 'black and white' in the previous statement, which may not be how you meant it, but for me at least, was how it was read. There is obviously no comparing the first 24 years, with the last 24 years.
HOWEVER...they are freakin' OLD and RICH, seen EVERYTHING...what the hell can we expect from them? I will still enjoy buying the new album when it comes out...even if it is worse than ABB (which I liked).
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Bingo
Whoever wrote is spot on in my opinion.
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Doxa
Really good article.
I think the very premise of it is the fact Keith lost his incredible talent and creativity during his junkie years - but hasn't been really able to face it. His claim for co-leadership in teh late 70's was horrible scene, because he didn't have the substance - the great songs and ideas - to offer any longer. Just his musical conservatism, limited musical intuitions (that probably were emptied to EXILE), all backed up with his pal Jack Daniels. No wonder Jagger got fed up with him. That almost killed The Stones. Like the writer says Keith is not able distinguish cause and effect.
Keith still loves to talk about having "antennas out" like it was still 1965, 1968 or 1971 and other bullshit, but bloody hell, the antenna's been broken for decades now. EXILE was Keith's last moment of artistic glory. It's been dowhill ever since. Unfortunately The Stones rise and fell with Keith. Jagger was able to rise the Stones to glory again with SOME GIRLS and TATTOO YOU, but that's about it.
- Doxa