Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

Because it's a extremely boring song.

Claudine Longet got convicted for misdemeanor negligent homicide in connection with the death of her boyfriend, former Olympic skier "Spider" Sabich.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

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Because it's a extremely boring song.

For the extremely depressed, yes

IMO, it has an incredible groove, and is one of the better authentic rock'n'roll tunes by the Stones.

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Because it's a extremely boring song.

For the extremely depressed, yes

IMO, it has an incredible groove, and is one of the better authentic rock'n'roll tunes by the Stones.

Well, good for you. I find it to be incredibly boring. It doesn't do anything.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

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Because it's a extremely boring song.

For the extremely depressed, yes

IMO, it has an incredible groove, and is one of the better authentic rock'n'roll tunes by the Stones.

You're right.
A really cool little ratta tat.

I love the song

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

yeah, i like the elongated bluesy version better, too. this one sorta just sits there. but as outtakes go, it's incredibly average.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

I like the song, but it doesn't fit with Some Girls, that may be why left off the album.

It's so very lonely, you're 2,000 Light Years from home

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I like the song, but it doesn't fit with Some Girls, that may be why left off the album.

or the fact that it wasn't recorded during the some girls sessions...possible reason.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it. It's the weakest track on ER for me; after Indian Girl



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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

You do have a point there, that LMG is not a "clone" of a previous RS song. I'll just give you that point. But it has something to do with the mood they're creating - and the chord sequenzes, and the lyrics which are besically saying nothing, without being original or being good in any other ways. To me, it's the weakest track on ER, after Indian Girl. I don't hate it or anything like that....it's just that I could easily do without it; and sometimes skip it - unlike most RS tracks from 1968-1983.

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I like the song, but it doesn't fit with Some Girls, that may be why left off the album.

No, it was because they would be sued if they released it.....if they even get chance to release it, in the first place

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

You do have a point there, that LMG is not a "clone" of a previous RS song. I'll just give you that point. But it has something to do with the mood they're creating - and the chord sequenzes, and the lyrics which are besically saying nothing, without being original or being good in any other ways. To me, it's the weakest track on ER, after Indian Girl. I don't hate it or anything like that....it's just that I could easily do without it; and sometimes skip it - unlike most RS tracks from 1968-1983.

i love the tune...it's taut and tight...charlie's on the money and keef delivers one of his crispier solos...also like how the handled it on the tattoo you tour...although it seems that all of their rockers, no matter how arranged in the studio, turn out to be chuck berry rave-ups on stage....they simply can't help it...or something.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

You do have a point there, that LMG is not a "clone" of a previous RS song. I'll just give you that point. But it has something to do with the mood they're creating - and the chord sequenzes, and the lyrics which are besically saying nothing, without being original or being good in any other ways. To me, it's the weakest track on ER, after Indian Girl. I don't hate it or anything like that....it's just that I could easily do without it; and sometimes skip it - unlike most RS tracks from 1968-1983.

i love the tune...it's taut and tight...charlie's on the money and keef delivers one of his crispier solos...also like how the handled it on the tattoo you tour...although it seems that all of their rockers, no matter how arranged in the studio, turn out to be chuck berry rave-ups on stage....they simply can't help it...or something.

Maybe you look at Let Me Go the same way I look at Love You Too Much and Tallahassee Lassie....even before the official release. Then I understand....reminds me of the innocent old bootleg title; "remember what kind of R&R made your feet loose control". Let Me Go just never did it for me - unlike most of ER.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

You do have a point there, that LMG is not a "clone" of a previous RS song. I'll just give you that point. But it has something to do with the mood they're creating - and the chord sequenzes, and the lyrics which are besically saying nothing, without being original or being good in any other ways. To me, it's the weakest track on ER, after Indian Girl. I don't hate it or anything like that....it's just that I could easily do without it; and sometimes skip it - unlike most RS tracks from 1968-1983.

i love the tune...it's taut and tight...charlie's on the money and keef delivers one of his crispier solos...also like how the handled it on the tattoo you tour...although it seems that all of their rockers, no matter how arranged in the studio, turn out to be chuck berry rave-ups on stage....they simply can't help it...or something.

Maybe you look at Let Me Go the same way I look at Love You Too Much and Tallahassee Lassie....even before the official release. Then I understand....reminds me of the innocent old bootleg title; "remember what kind of R&R made your feet loose control". Let Me Go just never did it for me - unlike most of ER.

sigh. sometimes i don't even know you.

It was left off 'Emotional Rescue' for legal reasons., not 'Some Girls'. Even though it was recorded during the 'Some Girls' sessions.

Many thanks to all. I like the song.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

You do have a point there, that LMG is not a "clone" of a previous RS song. I'll just give you that point. But it has something to do with the mood they're creating - and the chord sequenzes, and the lyrics which are besically saying nothing, without being original or being good in any other ways. To me, it's the weakest track on ER, after Indian Girl. I don't hate it or anything like that....it's just that I could easily do without it; and sometimes skip it - unlike most RS tracks from 1968-1983.

i love the tune...it's taut and tight...charlie's on the money and keef delivers one of his crispier solos...also like how the handled it on the tattoo you tour...although it seems that all of their rockers, no matter how arranged in the studio, turn out to be chuck berry rave-ups on stage....they simply can't help it...or something.

Maybe you look at Let Me Go the same way I look at Love You Too Much and Tallahassee Lassie....even before the official release. Then I understand....reminds me of the innocent old bootleg title; "remember what kind of R&R made your feet loose control". Let Me Go just never did it for me - unlike most of ER.

sigh. sometimes i don't even know you.

Erik does say some very hurtful things doesn't he...

This is a great song...the lyrics are hilarious. It's not my fave off the new songs, but there is stiff competition.

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This is a great song....

needs a bridge or something to break it up...the slow, bluesy version had the makings of a bridge and coulda been a contender for greatness...

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

You do have a point there, that LMG is not a "clone" of a previous RS song. I'll just give you that point. But it has something to do with the mood they're creating - and the chord sequenzes, and the lyrics which are besically saying nothing, without being original or being good in any other ways. To me, it's the weakest track on ER, after Indian Girl. I don't hate it or anything like that....it's just that I could easily do without it; and sometimes skip it - unlike most RS tracks from 1968-1983.

i love the tune...it's taut and tight...charlie's on the money and keef delivers one of his crispier solos...also like how the handled it on the tattoo you tour...although it seems that all of their rockers, no matter how arranged in the studio, turn out to be chuck berry rave-ups on stage....they simply can't help it...or something.

Maybe you look at Let Me Go the same way I look at Love You Too Much and Tallahassee Lassie....even before the official release. Then I understand....reminds me of the innocent old bootleg title; "remember what kind of R&R made your feet loose control". Let Me Go just never did it for me - unlike most of ER.

sigh. sometimes i don't even know you.

Erik does say some very hurtful things doesn't he...

yeah, but it's the cold, norwegian winter talking, i think.

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

You do have a point there, that LMG is not a "clone" of a previous RS song. I'll just give you that point. But it has something to do with the mood they're creating - and the chord sequenzes, and the lyrics which are besically saying nothing, without being original or being good in any other ways. To me, it's the weakest track on ER, after Indian Girl. I don't hate it or anything like that....it's just that I could easily do without it; and sometimes skip it - unlike most RS tracks from 1968-1983.

i love the tune...it's taut and tight...charlie's on the money and keef delivers one of his crispier solos...also like how the handled it on the tattoo you tour...although it seems that all of their rockers, no matter how arranged in the studio, turn out to be chuck berry rave-ups on stage....they simply can't help it...or something.

Maybe you look at Let Me Go the same way I look at Love You Too Much and Tallahassee Lassie....even before the official release. Then I understand....reminds me of the innocent old bootleg title; "remember what kind of R&R made your feet loose control". Let Me Go just never did it for me - unlike most of ER.

sigh. sometimes i don't even know you.

Erik does say some very hurtful things doesn't he...

yeah, but it's the cold, norwegian winter talking, i think.

reminds me of the arctic zone.

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This is a great song...the lyrics are hilarious.

and the delivery is priceless, and that mighty mighty fine rockabilly playing
adds an additional six layers of comicality - it's a great little outtake

i love the Rolling Stones

Quite so !

The long version would have been a perfect track for Emotional Rescue..

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Apologies if this was covered before. Why was Claudine not officially released before? what where the problems?

In my opinion because it is a rather mediocre song, an real outtake, the weakest of the new "Some Girls". Even better is the long original version with some interesting RW-licks which are completely absent on the released version in '11.

I find Claudine to be a mediocre song, as well - and especially when compared to the other songs of the Some Girls album, and the best "outtakes" from those days. But still.....it's not directly bad either; and it has a style/rythm which is quite unique in the Rolling Stones catalogue. So not a total waste - like some other "trying to sound like Rolling Stones songs"-songs, like Rough Justice, Let Me Go, Sad Sad Sad, etc.
The longe/slower version is quite more interesting, I agree

hey - you leave Let Me Go out of this!

It's tough company for Let Me Go, being mentioned together with those other 2, yes I know. But considering how great RS were in 1979-1980, and also considering how great most of Emotional Rescue is, I think Let Me Go can take it

but, here's the acid-test for songs that are "trying to sound like the Rolling Stones," erik: name one other song prior to LMG that it reminds you of. i can't. so, ergo, it's not trying to sound like them...your turn.

You do have a point there, that LMG is not a "clone" of a previous RS song. I'll just give you that point. But it has something to do with the mood they're creating - and the chord sequenzes, and the lyrics which are besically saying nothing, without being original or being good in any other ways. To me, it's the weakest track on ER, after Indian Girl. I don't hate it or anything like that....it's just that I could easily do without it; and sometimes skip it - unlike most RS tracks from 1968-1983.

i love the tune...it's taut and tight...charlie's on the money and keef delivers one of his crispier solos...also like how the handled it on the tattoo you tour...although it seems that all of their rockers, no matter how arranged in the studio, turn out to be chuck berry rave-ups on stage....they simply can't help it...or something.

Maybe you look at Let Me Go the same way I look at Love You Too Much and Tallahassee Lassie....even before the official release. Then I understand....reminds me of the innocent old bootleg title; "remember what kind of R&R made your feet loose control". Let Me Go just never did it for me - unlike most of ER.

sigh. sometimes i don't even know you.

Erik does say some very hurtful things doesn't he...

yeah, but it's the cold, norwegian winter talking, i think.

Another point for you, Tod. Let Me Go is too much of an empty minded summer rock'n roller for me. While for instance Tallahassee Lassie reminds me of fur-coats and dog-sleds for some strange reason