...where are the UK fans ....they miss a good album.......maybe too american...

Imagine that, in a country with five times the population...

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Gazza
Imagine that, in a country with five times the population...

Oooooooooooooooooooh .... bitchy bitchy !!

[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]

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Gazza
Imagine that, in a country with five times the population...

That would makes sense if we're talking overall sales, but not for chart performance. Some Girls is doing considerably better in Canada than the UK also. When the album originally came out it was #1 in the US and Canada, but #2 in the UK. I don't know if it just doesn't appeal to UK audiences or what, but this is an album that doesn't do AS well there as in North America for some reason. Not to say it does bad, or that we need to find out where the "UK fans are".



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I think you found out when the Exile reissue came out.

Hardly a big deal. Just before Christmas is not exactly the best time to be competitive for UK releases.

Chart performance is all dependent on what else comes out that week. Stones releases rarely have much staying power.

Anyone think, like I do, that if the second disc was available as its own album vs having to buy Some Girls again it would've sold better?

Some Girls was quite expensive for an album that most Stones fans already have and some outtakes.

...not "some outtakes" but almost a new album....!!

I can see the UK fans being reluctant to pay for this. CDs, for some unknown reason, are unreasonably expensive in Europe. And this release was really half of something you already had, with some dodgy bonus cuts. I imagine they're more discriminating and maybe downloaded those bonus cuts they wanted. I've noticed in the past that complilation type albums do really well in the UK, offering more bang for your buck.

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24FPS
I can see the UK fans being reluctant to pay for this. CDs, for some unknown reason, are unreasonably expensive in Europe. And this release was really half of something you already had, with some dodgy bonus cuts. I imagine they're more discriminating and maybe downloaded those bonus cuts they wanted. I've noticed in the past that complilation type albums do really well in the UK, offering more bang for your buck.

I think you hit the nail on the head. There has been quite a lot of 'new releases' for Stones fans to buy recently and as they say times are hard. Also it could be a demographic thing in that many Stones fans simply aren't with us any more in the uk, if you think about it logically since they began their careers here it would mean people got into them before people in the US and would therefore be slightly older and therefore more likely to be dead of disinterested in buying re-mastered, re-packaged stuff. Who knows.

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24FPS
I can see the UK fans being reluctant to pay for this. CDs, for some unknown reason, are unreasonably expensive in Europe. And this release was really half of something you already had, with some dodgy bonus cuts. I imagine they're more discriminating and maybe downloaded those bonus cuts they wanted. I've noticed in the past that complilation type albums do really well in the UK, offering more bang for your buck.

Not sure about that...I purchased it from amazon.co.uk BECAUSE it was about 25% cheaper than buying it from amazon.ca or amazon.com, even with the shipping factored in.

I do notice though that 'compilation albums' seem to do disproportionately well in the UK, so they seem to be quite 'value conscious'.

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24FPS
I can see the UK fans being reluctant to pay for this. CDs, for some unknown reason, are unreasonably expensive in Europe. And this release was really half of something you already had, with some dodgy bonus cuts. I imagine they're more discriminating and maybe downloaded those bonus cuts they wanted. I've noticed in the past that complilation type albums do really well in the UK, offering more bang for your buck.

Not sure about that...I purchased it from amazon.co.uk BECAUSE it was about 25% cheaper than buying it from amazon.ca or amazon.com, even with the shipping factored in.

I guess I'm not factoring in the Amazon factor, which I'm sure has revolutionized things in Europe, as it has in America. I still think of Amazon as relatively new, although it is now the norm, and politicians are under increasing pressure from brick and mortar stores in the U.S. to level the playing field by having Amazon collect sales tax.

Not really sure that anyone in the UK is really bothered or motivated by sales figures and chart placings anymore.

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...not "some outtakes" but almost a new album....!!

One of which they already had.

Are there only two countries in the world?

How's it doing in France?

In France "Some girls"is in the top ten "Back catalogue".(4-5-7)

dont think we have an equivalent of that.

So, its not treated as a 'new release' for chart positions ?

Some Girls in the world charts (peak positions)

UK: #58
US: #46
Spain: #59
Netherlands: #25
Swiss: #48
Germany: #14
New Zealand: #33
Sweden: #41
Norway: #39
Austria: #38
New Zealand: #33
Australia: #93
France: #61
Belgium: #83
Canada: #60

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Some Girls in the world charts (peak positions)

UK: #58
US: #46
Spain: #59
Netherlands: #25
Swiss: #48
Germany: #14
New Zealand: #33
Sweden: #41
Norway: #39
Austria: #38
New Zealand: #33
Australia: #93
France: #61
Belgium: #83
Canada: #60

Those Germans still rock and roll

where are the French fans? They miss a good album..maybe too American?

(sorry jp - couldnt resist...... )

More surpirisingly, New Zealand reached #33 twice in the same poll!! Hey you gotta like their national flag!

Some Girls Deluxe

Amazon Best Sellers Rank:
#30 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
#17 in Music > Rock
#28 in Music > Pop

...and compared to Smile-Beach Boys

Amazon Best Sellers Rank:
#102 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
#55 in Music > Rock
#94 in Music > Pop

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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Anyone think, like I do, that if the second disc was available as its own album vs having to buy Some Girls again it would've sold better?

Absolutely! Finally we can agree on something!

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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Anyone think, like I do, that if the second disc was available as its own album vs having to buy Some Girls again it would've sold better?

Absolutely! Finally we can agree on something!

Hard to know for sure...one could argue that it got the publicity it did BECAUSE of it being associated with Some Girls.

With that said, they certainly didn't promote it very much. Maybe they would have promoted it much more if it was deemed a 'new album'. I guess we'll never know.

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More surpirisingly, New Zealand reached #33 twice in the same poll!! Hey you gotta like their national flag!

LOL, sorry a mistake, Italy was the right one.


Anyway, here are the positions week by week so far, the album has been listed in 15 countries:


Germany: #14-33-60-68-76
Netherlands: #25-37-49-38-60-68
New Zealand: #33-out
Austria: #38-out
Norway: #39-out
Sweden: #41-60-out
US: #46-92-122-125-135 (64,000 copies sold so far)
Swiss: #48-63-54-92
Italy: #57-out
UK: #58-101-137-174-out
Spain: #59-94-out
Canada: #60-74-out
France: #61-118-146
Belgium: #83-out
Australia: #93-out


If someone asks about Exile's reissue last year, well, it went to the Top 10 in 20 countries...

Today in Amazon best sellers charts....
UK 245
US 38 ( yesterday 22)

Just to compare - does anybody have the newsest U2 deluxe sales figures?

Some Girls almost out of the U.S. chart, down to #193 this week with 4033 copies sold,

Chart Run: #46-92-122-125-135-193 (68,000 copies sold)


In the UK, Hot Rocks is charting at #176 this week, Some Girls is long gone.

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mtaylor
Just to compare - does anybody have the newsest U2 deluxe sales figures?

U2 did sell better worldwide, the Stones did a bit better in the U.S., both albums are on the same range worldwide, about 120-150k sold, a far cry from the million plus that Exile moved on 2010.

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Gazza
Imagine that, in a country with five times the population...

Well said Gazza.

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mtaylor
Just to compare - does anybody have the newsest U2 deluxe sales figures?

U2 did sell better worldwide, the Stones did a bit better in the U.S., both albums are on the same range worldwide, about 120-150k sold, a far cry from the million plus that Exile moved on 2010.

Thanks - then Stones are neither better nor worse than expected according to market standards for the kind of release