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Nah, just a collection of 1,s and 0,s.
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Yeah, Mick is ace on this.
It's from a december 1969 Pop Go The Sixties special.
[www.youtube.com]
To bad his vocal is the only thing live on the performance. I agree Altamont is the best true live one we ever got. Love to hear it with great high fidelity modern mix. It seems the farther they get in time from the creation of this one, the less authentic and genuine it becomes. It's now become more of a celebration of Lisa than anything else, imo.
The vocals are terrible on the 1973 versions as well. Listen to the mudic.
I have a feeling Keith wrote a good bit of them. The opening lines, and maybe the "War children, its just a shot away".
But my gut feeling then is that the second verse feels like Jagger. And especially the "love sister" answer to "war" and "rape" would be a song writing partnership at its best.
Are there any good reads on Miller? Would love to know more.
Groovy Bob -- Harriet Vyner
ROCKMAN
Groovy Bob -- Harriet Vyner
ROCKMAN
The only thing I’ve really seen is an article where another producer or engineer details how great he was working with Traffic. It’s a shame there isn’t more out there.
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Re: Track Talk: Gimme Shelter
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: October 31, 2015 21:58
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latebloomer
Perhaps it's gas....
Nah, just a collection of 1,s and 0,s.
Re: Track Talk: Gimme Shelter
Posted by:
MingSubu
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Date: October 31, 2015 21:59
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Re: Track Talk: Gimme Shelter
Posted by:
MingSubu
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Date: October 31, 2015 22:02
Oops, wrong thread.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-31 22:16 by MingSubu.
Re: Track Talk: Gimme Shelter
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: October 31, 2015 22:06
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buttons67
... as time went on the song grew on me and i love the promotional video version from ready steady go, to the studio version on let it bleed. the song live isnt anywhere near the best...
Yeah, Mick is ace on this.
It's from a december 1969 Pop Go The Sixties special.
[www.youtube.com]
Re: Track Talk: Gimme Shelter
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: October 31, 2015 22:39
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His MajestyQuote
buttons67
... as time went on the song grew on me and i love the promotional video version from ready steady go, to the studio version on let it bleed. the song live isnt anywhere near the best...
Yeah, Mick is ace on this.
It's from a december 1969 Pop Go The Sixties special.
[www.youtube.com]
To bad his vocal is the only thing live on the performance. I agree Altamont is the best true live one we ever got. Love to hear it with great high fidelity modern mix. It seems the farther they get in time from the creation of this one, the less authentic and genuine it becomes. It's now become more of a celebration of Lisa than anything else, imo.
Re: Track Talk: Gimme Shelter
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: October 31, 2015 22:40
But, what fantastic vocals they are, same with HTW from same show.
Yeah, it lost it's menacing edge decades ago.
Yeah, it lost it's menacing edge decades ago.
Re: Track Talk: Gimme Shelter
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: November 1, 2015 00:49
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saltoftheearthQuote
DandelionPowderman
The 1975 versions of GS were excellent! This one is from one of my top 3 favourite bootlegs. One of my all time favourite versions
[www.youtube.com]
The vocals are terrible! I prefer the 1973 live Versions. Similar to 'Angie' all the live versions are completely different from the studio Version which arguably is a masterpiece!
The vocals are terrible on the 1973 versions as well. Listen to the mudic.
Re: Track Talk: Gimme Shelter
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: November 1, 2015 00:50
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latebloomerQuote
His MajestyQuote
Turner68
although you said it with a smile, so... :-)
That's not a smile.
Perhaps it's gas....
Hey DP, thanks for posting that boot - Ronnie's good tonight!
Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: October 7, 2018 19:07
We know how Keith came about to write this song. We can get a pretty good sense of the song coming to life, and into being from some outtakes.
I heard one of the takes earlier today with Keith singing.
What do you guys think about authorship of the lyrics? How much of it is Keith? When did Mick take over? Did he take over at all?
On a technical level - what did Jimmy Miller do to get that other-wordly sound for the song? The rough I heard this morning has a lot of the final version in there already (not the harmonica though), but when I think about it: in '1968 someone manipulated some knobs in a smoke filled control room, and those sounds still blow up my car speakers in 2018.
I heard one of the takes earlier today with Keith singing.
What do you guys think about authorship of the lyrics? How much of it is Keith? When did Mick take over? Did he take over at all?
On a technical level - what did Jimmy Miller do to get that other-wordly sound for the song? The rough I heard this morning has a lot of the final version in there already (not the harmonica though), but when I think about it: in '1968 someone manipulated some knobs in a smoke filled control room, and those sounds still blow up my car speakers in 2018.
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: October 8, 2018 00:02
If it wasn't for the Performance gang of Cammell..Mick...Anita
and Keith hangin with Robert Fraser we most likely wouldn't have Gimmie Shelter ...
ROCKMAN
and Keith hangin with Robert Fraser we most likely wouldn't have Gimmie Shelter ...
ROCKMAN
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
NICOS
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Date: October 8, 2018 01:52
My guess is that 99% of the lyrics are Mick's
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Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
TravelinMan
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Date: October 8, 2018 03:27
Jimmy Miller was the man and he added a lot of great musical ideas to the songs. I wish there was more written about him and his approach to production. He certainly brought the best out of the Stones.
I think one of the Johns was the engineer, probably Glyn. He was a great facilitating engineer, and had a lot of great techniques when capturing sounds; his book is a must-read.
I think one of the Johns was the engineer, probably Glyn. He was a great facilitating engineer, and had a lot of great techniques when capturing sounds; his book is a must-read.
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: October 8, 2018 03:35
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NICOS
My guess is that 99% of the lyrics are Mick's
I have a feeling Keith wrote a good bit of them. The opening lines, and maybe the "War children, its just a shot away".
But my gut feeling then is that the second verse feels like Jagger. And especially the "love sister" answer to "war" and "rape" would be a song writing partnership at its best.
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Paddy
()
Date: October 8, 2018 04:18
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TravelinMan
Jimmy Miller was the man and he added a lot of great musical ideas to the songs. I wish there was more written about him and his approach to production. He certainly brought the best out of the Stones.
I think one of the Johns was the engineer, probably Glyn. He was a great facilitating engineer, and had a lot of great techniques when capturing sounds; his book is a must-read.
Are there any good reads on Miller? Would love to know more.
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: October 8, 2018 05:24
Groovy Bob -- Harriet Vyner
ROCKMAN
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: October 8, 2018 05:37
Groovy Bob -- Harriet Vyner
ROCKMAN
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: October 8, 2018 10:04
Appreciate the press Rockman, and imparting knowledge.
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: October 8, 2018 11:24
pleasure Palace …. hope it helps in some way ….
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
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Date: October 8, 2018 18:41
There is a line Merry Clayton says in an interview in recent years, where she is telling the story about her doing the Stones session. She goes "Yes, Mick and Keith were there...with their hair, and their pants..." LOL
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
jlowe
()
Date: October 8, 2018 18:43
Robert Fraser: In the very detailed biography 'Groovy Bob' it is Paul McCartey who seems to be a big support to Bob in his latter years when he was ill with AIDS.
No mention of Keith.
No mention of Keith.
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: October 8, 2018 23:19
'Groovy Bob' … Strange life … amazing book everyone should read it
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: October 10, 2018 17:41
Forgot about the Robert Fraser book. I need to re-visit it.
On a weird unrelated side story about the song: Keith tells the story about sitting alone in apt. looking out on the street; gloomy weather, and starts writing that drone type song.
It always reminds me of George Harrison's story about writing "Blue Jay Way". Maybe they were both looking at the very same clouds.
I keep finding parallels with George and Keith.
Like when Keith brought in "I Need You", and "I Like It Too Much" for SG sessions; and George contributed "I Need You" and "You like me too much" for 'Help' sessions.
On a weird unrelated side story about the song: Keith tells the story about sitting alone in apt. looking out on the street; gloomy weather, and starts writing that drone type song.
It always reminds me of George Harrison's story about writing "Blue Jay Way". Maybe they were both looking at the very same clouds.
I keep finding parallels with George and Keith.
Like when Keith brought in "I Need You", and "I Like It Too Much" for SG sessions; and George contributed "I Need You" and "You like me too much" for 'Help' sessions.
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: October 10, 2018 21:03
GS supposedly first attempted on 15th March 1969. Keith shown playing the Maton guitar, Brian shown playing Morrocan drums in photos most likely from that day.
They overdubbed the choir on to YCAGWYW at the same session.
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They overdubbed the choir on to YCAGWYW at the same session.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-10-11 01:54 by His Majesty.
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: October 10, 2018 23:31
Yeah Palace can we kinda stretch it a bit and link Savoy Shuffle to Going Coming Down Again … hhhhhaaaaaaaaa
Cool cherry cream, a nice apple tart
I feel your taste all the time we're apart
Slipped my tongue in someone else's pie
Tasting better every time …………………….
ROCKMAN
Cool cherry cream, a nice apple tart
I feel your taste all the time we're apart
Slipped my tongue in someone else's pie
Tasting better every time …………………….
ROCKMAN
Re: Re. "Gimme Shelter"
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: October 11, 2018 14:41
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PaddyQuote
TravelinMan
Jimmy Miller was the man and he added a lot of great musical ideas to the songs. I wish there was more written about him and his approach to production. He certainly brought the best out of the Stones.
I think one of the Johns was the engineer, probably Glyn. He was a great facilitating engineer, and had a lot of great techniques when capturing sounds; his book is a must-read.
Are there any good reads on Miller? Would love to know more.
The only thing I’ve really seen is an article where another producer or engineer details how great he was working with Traffic. It’s a shame there isn’t more out there.
Gimme/Gimmie
Posted by:
CJFP
()
Date: August 27, 2020 02:53
Hey all!
I've got 2 copies of LIB. On one it says "Gimmie Shelter" the other "Gimme Shelter", no 'I'.
I've seen bits and pieces on this (several conflicting stories), but I've never gotten a full story on why there is a change or mispel and which ones are spelled which way.
I imagine you guys can help!
Thx
I've got 2 copies of LIB. On one it says "Gimmie Shelter" the other "Gimme Shelter", no 'I'.
I've seen bits and pieces on this (several conflicting stories), but I've never gotten a full story on why there is a change or mispel and which ones are spelled which way.
I imagine you guys can help!
Thx
Re: Gimme/Gimmie
Posted by:
jbwelda
()
Date: August 27, 2020 04:05
> why there is a change or mispel
Accidents will happen
jb
Accidents will happen
jb
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