legalising cannabis on the Isle of Mann to try out social effect. Will Cameron and Clegg appoint him as a new drugs advisor?

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Lady Jayne
legalising cannabis on the Isle of Mann to try out social effect. Will Cameron and Clegg appoint him as a new drugs advisor?

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Weren't Cameron & Clegg a folk duo in the 60s?

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Lady Jayne
legalising cannabis on the Isle of Mann to try out social effect. Will Cameron and Clegg appoint him as a new drugs advisor?

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Weren't Cameron & Clegg a folk duo in the 60s?

No - that was Cheech and Chong

No, no, Cheech and Chong were a comic duo.

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Sherbabe
No, no, Cheech and Chong were a comic duo.

No. no, that was Cameron & Clegg...

Wow, is that for real still ll? It reminds me of the commemorative stuff sold during coronations and such. I have a few dating to Edward VII.

Don't know if it's regarded as a political thread to discuss Micks suggestion, but why
not look at The Netherlands instead of making The Isle of Man a place to experiment.

In my country soft drugs are available for all, through "coffee shops" in every town.
Compared to other countries it happens to lead to a lower percentage of youth that uses
soft drugs. Take away the illegal part of it, and part of the thrill is gone.

Soft drugs cause less health damage then alcohol or tobacco.

Heck, very sensible people in my country even promote a liberal approach to hard drugs
too. Take it out of the illegal circuit and criminals will make a lot less money from
it.

Mick is really making sense here and I hope his plea will be heard.

"Compared to other countries it happens to lead to a lower percentage of youth that uses soft drugs."

Do you have any statistics that support this claim?

I'd rather a nice pint of real ale and a box of B&H Silver than a rotten 'joint', anyday. Most cannibis users smoke the 'skunk' variety these day - in fact, it;s all that is largly available here in the UK. It's vile stuff.

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Goldsmith
"Compared to other countries it happens to lead to a lower percentage of youth that uses soft drugs."

Do you have any statistics that support this claim?

Sure: EMCDDA

In Netherlands 32,2 % of all people between 15 and 34 years used canabis at a certain
moment in their live but only 9.5 % is a regular user.

In the UK these numbers are 40.1 % and 13.8 %.
In France 43.6 % and 16.6 %.
In Germany 37.5 % and 11.9 %.
Spain: 37.7 % and 18.8 %.
Sweden: 18.1 % and 4.8 % (OK, they score lower than the Netherlands)
Italy: 36.1 %^and 20.9 %.

These are European numbers, because they come from a European source.
I think they are quite convincing.

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Goldsmith
"Compared to other countries it happens to lead to a lower percentage of youth that uses soft drugs."

Do you have any statistics that support this claim?

There are loads of them in academic studies into drug use. Also very impressive (last time I checked) was the reduction in heroin use as a result of precribing and supervising the use of the drug. Those already dependant are encouraged to reduce or stop and the medical model makes it less atractive to experimental youths.

I haven't read any serious research for a while, but I work with drug users in the UK and have long been envious of the outcomes achieved by the Netherlands and other enlightened nations.

When Mick starts experimenting, he should start off simple...
Like combining vinegar with baking soda to make a cool little volcano.

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Goldsmith
"Compared to other countries it happens to lead to a lower percentage of youth that uses soft drugs."

Do you have any statistics that support this claim?

Sure: EMCDDA

In Netherlands 32,2 % of all people between 15 and 34 years used canabis at a certain
moment in their live but only 9.5 % is a regular user.

In the UK these numbers are 40.1 % and 13.8 %.
In France 43.6 % and 16.6 %.
In Germany 37.5 % and 11.9 %.
Spain: 37.7 % and 18.8 %.
Sweden: 18.1 % and 4.8 % (OK, they score lower than the Netherlands)
Italy: 36.1 %^and 20.9 %.

These are European numbers, because they come from a European source.
I think they are quite convincing.

Interesting to see that less percentage, let alone the absolute number, of people have used or regulary use drugs in Holland than those other countries when Holland legalises soft drugs.

Cheers,
Wuudy

Cannabis use decreases among very young people... to the benefit of coke.

In the UK, drugs policy is made by The Sun and Daily Mail - there is no evidence-based policy making here. It's all screaming hysteria from the tabloids. They prefer the drugs trade to be run by violent gangsters and to have no quality control over the substances.

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Big Al
I'd rather a nice pint of real ale and a box of B&H Silver than a rotten 'joint', anyday. Most cannibis users smoke the 'skunk' variety these day - in fact, it;s all that is largly available here in the UK. It's vile stuff.

You just can't take your skunk - admit it! ;-) Skunk is great fun in moderation imho. And B&H ciggies aren't exactly the nectar of the gods now are they?

I wonder what the Isle of Man locals think of this idea about using them as Guinea pigs.I suppose it will be good a excuse to do another weekly poll and to meet Mick maybe.Ive always thought the Isle of Man to be quite a Conservative place actually.

Seems they like to toke in Italia.

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Father Ted

You just can't take your skunk - admit it! ;-) Skunk is great fun in moderation imho. And B&H ciggies aren't exactly the nectar of the gods now are they?

Oh, go on then! OK, I had a few good giggly moments in the 6th form, but also a few terrible experiences - especially when using a 'bong'!